The MCU might have a problem they don't know about yet.

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A bunch of armchair Fiege's in here. Just relax man and stop looking for problems when there currently aren't any. They have way more avenues and storylines to pursue now that these TV shows are taking off. Yall acting like they just throwing shyt at the wall and seeing what sticks. I'm not saying they are perfect and some movies weren't that great but let's not act like these scripts and moves aren't planned out years in advance. Tony and Cap are gone get over it.
That's what I'm saying? How Can you doubt the gawd Feige at this point? He is the most successful movie Producer ever. He knows what he is doing. It's just the path forward isn't clearly defined so people are nervous, but come on management is still the same they got this.
 

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Ironman was B/C list hero and RDJ while supremely talented wasn't any type of box office draw when he got the part. They built him up to the status he was by the time they killed the character I think they can do it again.
And Chris Evans was a straight nobody who is only a decent actor. And look you are pining for his return. lol
Iron man was never no B/C list character so stop. We just never saw him in the movies before but I grew up watching Iron Man cartoons :childplease: Iron Man was always a sleeping giant. You act like Feige can just grab anyone like Moon Knight and make him carry the flag
 

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I said that months ago and still stand by it. They're making a mistake telling the multiverse stuff in both TV and movie format as there's no way that casual fans will be able to keep track of all that's going on.

Even if the attachment was there with the characters, it's just not going to work as everyone isn't going to watch those Marvel TV judging by the ratings of what they've already put out.
Word of mouth is pretty strong when it comes to the MCU, especially in this social media age. I wouldn’t sell the casual crowd short here. How I dash towards an A24 movie is probably how soccer moms and their kids dash toward a property that has the Marvel logo on it. :manny:

I also think the TV avenue helps a ton in regards to the multiverse. Now whether these shows are much of quality is another story, but Marvel can flesh out storylines better in that aspect than they ever could on the big screen. I think the confusion would stem if it was being told strictly through the films as that’s a lot to pack in such standard screentime.
 

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Bringing back Ironman will be A LOT more expensive than Cap. Based on his previous Marvel contract, RDJ will be able to command more bread than ever before as there’s no way he’d do it again without a percentage of the profits as he did before.
I feel like he would actually be cheaper the longer he's gone, not more expensive. Especially if he isn't commanding that much pay for any of the current projects he's doing.
For example they wasn't paying Tobey spiderman 3 numbers for No way Home.
 

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Iron man was never no B/C list character so stop. We just never saw him in the movies before but I grew up watching Iron Man cartoons :childplease: You act like Feige can just grab anyone like Moon Knight and make him carry the flag
Yeah, he was B list at least. He never had a live action interpretation until then.
Wanda and Dr. Strange are currently carrying the flag. lol
 

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Word of mouth is pretty strong when it comes to the MCU, especially in this social media age. I wouldn’t sell the casual crowd short here. How I dash towards an A24 movie is probably how soccer moms and their kids dash toward a property that has the Marvel logo on it. :manny:

I also think the TV avenue helps a ton in regards to the multiverse. Now whether these shows are much of quality is another story, but Marvel can flesh out storylines better in that aspect than they ever could on the big screen. I think the confusion would stem if it was being told strictly through the films as that’s a lot to pack in such standard screentime.

The TV avenue only helps if casuals pay attention to what's going on in the story and there's no guarantee that they will or even have Disney Plus to watch those shows. It's a difference between going to theaters for a couple of hours to watch a movie and actually having the time to sit down and keep up with a TV show.
 

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I feel like he would actually be cheaper the longer he's gone, not more expensive. Especially if he isn't commanding that much pay for any of the current projects he's doing.
For example they wasn't paying Tobey spiderman 3 numbers for No way Home.

Tobey's original contract with Sony wasn't likely dependent on base pay and a percentage of the profits like RDJ's Marvel contract was. Tobey also wasn't the lead in Spiderman 3, so he couldn't command that type of money. If you're bring RDJ back into the fold, then he is likely going to command top dollar.

Remember RDJ got paid $10 million dollars for Homecoming by just doing what was essentially a few minute appearance as it wasn't in his original Marvel contract.
 

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Tobey's original contract with Sony wasn't likely dependent on base pay and a percentage of the profits like RDJ's Marvel contract was. Tobey also wasn't the lead in Spiderman 3, so he couldn't command that type of money. If you're bring RDJ back into the fold, then he is likely going to command top dollar.

Remember RDJ got paid $10 million dollars for Homecoming by just doing what was essentially a few minute appearance as it wasn't in his original Marvel contract.
I just remembered we have the multiverse now with variants. There is no way we don’t see Iron Man and Cap again.
 

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Tobey's original contract with Sony wasn't likely dependent on base pay and a percentage of the profits like RDJ's Marvel contract was. Tobey also wasn't the lead in Spiderman 3, so he couldn't command that type of money. If you're bring RDJ back into the fold, then he is likely going to command top dollar.

Remember RDJ got paid $10 million dollars for Homecoming by just doing what was essentially a few minute appearance as it wasn't in his original Marvel contract.
you just ignored the point i made, but i'm going to say it again. Tobey Mcguiire's was also getting paid 5% of the gross for Spiderman 2 which earned him an extra 40 million from that movie. In addition to base pay. Just like RDJ . But time is a factor. He didn't get nearly that kind of contract for No Way Home. and if RDJ comes back years later he will not get 10 million just for a cameo.
 

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you just ignored the point i made, but i'm going to say it again. Tobey Mcguiire's was also getting paid 5% of the gross for Spiderman 2 which earned him an extra 40 million from that movie. Just like RDJ . But time is a factor. He didn't get nearly that kind of contract for No Way Home. and if RDJ comes back years later he will not get 10 million just for a cameo.

Why would Tobey's contract have anything to do with No Way Home when that was his first time in the Spiderman role since 2007? We are talking about 14 years between movie roles, which will definitely not be the case with RDJ if they ask him to come back.
 

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End Game was probably the most significant movie and had the biggest impact on the future of the MCU. It's also starting to show this year despite Far From Home's success.

A lot of people don't realize it but Tony Stark and Steve Rogers were the heart and soul of the MCU. They were the anchor characters that brought balance and stability. They had the best story arcs and had the biggest impact on the entire MCU.

How to you replace/establish not one but two strong lead characters to carry the MCU?

Reed Richards would be the natural choice, but a FF flick is too far out. Then there is the X-Men factor that's even further out.

Thanos and the infinity saga was the xfactor in the background that connected everything. That hasn't been established yet. So it feels like everything is influx. It's also enabled Feige to experiment with movies like The Eternals, give characters like Black Widow a solo flick and introduce new characters. But eventually they are going to have to connect a common enemy/threat, and establish anchor characters.


I don't think it will be the young avengers. That's too far out. Spiderman it seems will probably get spun off into it's one universe, with an occasional cameo in a main MCU film. No Way Home actually, hurt Dr Strange's status. They way they wrote him in that movie was :scusthov:
Fans are super amped about Dr Strange 2 and Wanda Maximoff in general. That was the huge impression that was the aftermath of Endgame anyway.
 

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Why would Tobey's contract have anything to do with No Way Home when that was his first time in the Spiderman role since 2007? We are talking about 14 years between movie roles, which will definitely not be the case with RDJ if they ask him to come back.
:mindblown: my whole hypothetical is suggesting what would happen if the same exact scenario happened with iron man. Thats what it has to do with Tobey's Contract. They were in similiar situations before, and it they returned under similar conditions, they will both likely suffer the same pay cut. :dead:
 

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As much as people dont want it, i think the xmen are gonna fall into the same trap that they did with fox. Theyre too much of a group to the point that the characters that stand out are gonna be bigger than the brand. Its too many mutants to try to boost for a movie format, to the point that for any mutant not named wolverine to get any shine, the xmen are gonna need to be in tv shows heavily. Xmen could be the movie team, but have x-factor and excalibur be tv show teams with cameo from the movie team characters to flesh them out more
The only reason the Avengers, Thanos, Iron Man...all these characters mattered in the first place was because the iconic X characters were missing..was because they couldn't use Dr. Doom, Galactus, and Silver Surfer.
 

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:mindblown: my whole hypothetical is suggesting what would happen if the same exact scenario happened with iron man. Thats what it has to do with Tobey's Contract. They were in similiar situations before, and it they returned under similar conditions, they will both likely suffer the same pay cut. :dead:

It's a useless hypothetical to make is my point considering the fact that Tobey was under contract with Sony and RDJ is/was with Marvel/Disney outside of his appearance in Homecoming, so whose to say that RDJ wouldn't get close to the same amount again especially if it's a situation where they're desperately in need of his character.
 

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So we're comparing the fate of the MCU, based on a movie that was 20 in the making, and that they're starting over again with that build up. I'm keeping it a buck. Iron Man 2 & 3, Captain America: TFA, Thor 1 and 2, Age of Ultron, weren't the greatest movies. They didn't hit for me like that. This doom and gloom narrative has been a thing with the MCU for a while now.
 
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