The MCU might have a problem they don't know about yet.

[AnonymityX1000]

@AnonymityX1000 Armor Wars lurking in the cut too, if that beginning bit in NWH was any indication.

Hmmm . . . refresh my memory?

 

[Lootpack]

Hmmm . . . refresh my memory?

Spoiler: In Relation to NWH

Stark Industries is in hot water. The seizure of Stark’s tech by the DODC felt like a lead into that storyline, but I could be wrong. Had the AI system in Pete’s nano suit set offline too.

 

[Phillyrider807]

I will say I think he's lying regarding the 10 year build up. They definitely doing it for $ alone. They have to at least try and top IW/EG it would be anti-capitalist not to.
l think Kang might just be reserved to the Young Avengers as a big bad in a mini-arc. Like a huge mini arc where they get their own movie. But not the Ultimate big bad.

Well yea i already think "Secret wars" is the next "Endgame" for the MCU. I just don't think it's gonna take 10 years to get there.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Spoiler: In Relation to NWH

Stark Industries is in hot water. The seizure of Stark’s tech by the DODC felt like a lead into that storyline, but I could be wrong. Had the AI system in Pete’s nano suit set offline too.

You right, I just forgot. Definitely could be.

 

[QuintessentialMan]

dude they have literally tons of material, hundreds of comics, they will be printing money for decades either way. They dont even need setup at this point it just makes it better.
Secret Invasion and Secret Wars dont even need a setup they can just happen and be dope.
They're setting up Young Avengers and Thunderbolts and various Hulks...you have seen this in the shows. Multiverse is here now so more possibilities. Netflix shows are being interwoven. Audiences arent even asking to be necessarily emotionally moved, they just want nostalgia and action and the stories from the comics onscreen. Its a lay up. They can take their time with f4 and xmen because after that there a million more storylines that dont need setup. Silver Surfer and Galactus can show up out of nowhere. Onslaught can happen. Beyonders can show up. Its easy money man, The comics guarantee success if they do DD.There is just too much good material to screw it up.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

dude they have literally tons of material, hundreds of comics, they will be printing money for decades either way. They dont even need setup at this point it just makes it better.
Secret Invasion and Secret Wars dont even need a setup they can just happen and be dope.
They're setting up Young Avengers and Thunderbolts and various Hulks...you have seen this in the shows. Multiverse is here now so more possibilities. Netflix shows are being interwoven. Audiences arent even asking to be necessarily emotionally moved, they just want nostalgia and action and the stories from the comics onscreen. Its a lay up. They can take their time with f4 and xmen because after that there a million more storylines that dont need setup. Silver Surfer and Galactus can show up out of nowhere. Onslaught can happen. Beyonders can show up. Its easy money man, The comics guarantee success if they do DD.There is just too much good material to screw it up.

Yeah, the MCU will be a thing for the forseeable future.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I see why Feige wanted NWH to follow Dr. Strange.
NWH was Endgame for Phase 4 but Phase 4 just started and now Spider-Man seems to be out the picture for the rest of it.
I also think they are walking a thin line with the multiverse stuff.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I see why Feige wanted NWH to follow Dr. Strange.
NWH was Endgame for Phase 4 but Phase 4 just started and now Spider-Man seems to be out the picture for the rest of it.
I also think they are walking a thin line with the multiverse stuff.

I said that months ago and still stand by it. They're making a mistake telling the multiverse stuff in both TV and movie format as there's no way that casual fans will be able to keep track of all that's going on.

Even if the attachment was there with the characters, it's just not going to work as everyone isn't going to watch those Marvel TV judging by the ratings of what they've already put out.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I will say I think he's lying regarding the 10 year build up. They definitely doing it for $ alone. They have to at least try and top IW/EG it would be anti-capitalist not to.
l think Kang might just be reserved to the Young Avengers as a big bad in a mini-arc. Like a huge mini arc where they get their own movie. But not the Ultimate big bad.

They won't be able to top it as the connection to the characters and the storyline just won't be there to do so. They struck lightning in the bottle with the 10 year build up and they'd be hard pressed to do it again in that format.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

They won't be able to top it as the connection to the characters and the storyline just won't be there to do so. They struck lightning in the bottle with the 10 year build up and they'd be hard pressed to do it again in that format.

Why don't you think they can rebuild a connection with new characters and Secret Wars can be more compelling than the Infinity Saga of done right. Not saying it will be easy but they will definitely try. Plus they got streaming now to make the connection to the heroes deeper and the experience of doing it already. They can improve on their previous efforts. Just sayin', I wouldn't net against Feige.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I see why Feige wanted NWH to follow Dr. Strange.
NWH was Endgame for Phase 4 but Phase 4 just started and now Spider-Man seems to be out the picture for the rest of it.
I also think they are walking a thin line with the multiverse stuff.

What? Sony will make sure they can get a new Spidey movie as soon as possible in theaters after NWH and they will be working with MCU on the creatives side. Spider-Man ain't going nowhere.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Why don't you think they can rebuild a connection with new characters and Secret Wars can be more compelling than the Infinity Saga of done right. Not saying it will be easy but they will definitely try. Plus they got streaming now to make the connection to the heroes deeper and the experience of doing it already. They can improve on their previous efforts. Just sayin', I wouldn't net against Feige.

The problem with streaming is that you'd be depending on casuals (who you need) to follow the multiverse storyline when that's just not going to happen with everyone. Like I said in a previous post, for a lot of casuals their investment in the storyline ended with Endgame and there's no guarantee that they'll still have a devotion or new investment in this current story arc.

Just because someone has Disney Plus doesn't mean that they will consume every bit of Marvel content on there and it'd be naive to think that's the case.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

The problem with streaming is that you'd be depending on casuals (who you need) to follow the multiverse storyline when that's just not going to happen with everyone. Like I said in a previous post, for a lot of casuals their investment in the storyline ended with Endgame and there's no guarantee that they'll still have a devotion or new investment in this current story arc.

Just because someone has Disney Plus doesn't mean that they will consume every bit of Marvel content on there.

Na, people want to be part of the hype. When a movie is doing insane numbers at the Box office and has good word of mouth, that's enough for casuals to be curious and check it out. And Marvel has been turning casuals into die hards every big movie that comes out. NWH will help Dr. Strange make a billy where his first movie wasn't even close.

 

[Optimus Prime]

What? Sony will make sure they can get a new Spidey movie as soon as possible in theaters after NWH and they will be working with MCU on the creatives side. Spider-Man ain't going nowhere.

I doubt there will be another Spider-Man for Phase 4
You won't see another Spider-Man movie before 2024-25 and I believe it will be more Sony than MCU

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Na, people want to be part of the hype. When a movie is doing insane numbers at the Box office and has good word of mouth, that's enough for casuals to be curious and check it out. And Marvel has been turning casuals into die hards every big movie that comes out. NWH will help Dr. Strange make a billy where his first movie wasn't even close.

I'm speaking strictly towards streaming and not the movie aspect side of things.