The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread

Fatboi1

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Nah at the moment they stopped and debated about going back to town or not and she told them it wouldn't have taken a second for that line to be said afterwards and it would have changed the whole dynamic.

Like I said they wanted Joel and Tommy getting jumped to be a surprise. But most people already had in there head "are you really going to follow this person back to there camp like this"
Joel suggested going there like he knew of the place already. They were in a tight spot, they wasn't thinking "wait what if this is a setup?" Tommy looked at Joel for one second with suspicion but Joel quickly said "it's the baldwin place." as if to say it's okay.
 

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The game gets the same complaints that The walking dead started to get.

I understand why especially if you've been waiting on the game for 7 years to play and finish Joel and Ellie's story.


It's kind of a let down in that department
Funny enough I didn't really feel like I was "waiting" 7 years as it wasn't like TLOU ended on a note with unanswered questions. It could've been the end of it. I liked both Ellie and Joel so I didn't really feel way too attached to Joel getting murked early. I can see if say Uncharted 4 had Drake get killed hours into the game and you end up using Elena and Sully the rest of the game. If that happened I'd be pissed.
 

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It really wouldnt have been hard to show.

A simple yell in the snow after she told them about the camp.

"Tommy I don't trust this"

After stepping into the house

" Keep your eyes peeled Tommy"


Simple lines like that would have made it at least seem like they weren't completely out of character.


The problem is they probably wanted it to be a complete surprise for the player
Yeah they were definitely going for surprise > logic on that one

Like I said before Joel has been living care free for a while so he’s gonna be nowhere near as paranoid ect. But they coulda shown Joel at least looking hesitant with his head on a swivel or something
 

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This is an example of nikkas just automatically being dismissive to Abby and not even letting the game play out.

This nikka is complaining the whole damn time. shyt is pathetic.

Nikka shut the fucc up, ive seen so many YouTubers shyt on this game's writing its not even funny. Its not a good game. Being a ND stan is sad as hell. Not even being biased.
 

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I hear this thrown around but years of surviving thrown out the window for 4 years of comfort is just a bad reason.

They could have rectified this easy by throwing in a few lines from Joel questioning why and what they were doing setup there and a scene when them being on guard or checking out things when entering the building.

Instead that just waltz in mad comfortable and then get ambushed.

I made all the same "excuses" and reasons for that scene too. But eventually I was just like nah it was bad especially it being both Tommy and joel.

I'm just going off what Druckmann and Gross' reasoning but if you don't like it then you don't like it :manny:
 

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Suck my dikk breh.
Dude lets put this shyt aside as men. The majority gamers and YouTubers are saying exactly what we've all been saying. The game should've been delayed for a 2021 release. I'm really skeptical of how they're going to bounce back from this with Neil going this agenda route with games.
 

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Dude lets put this shyt aside as men. The majority gamers and YouTubers are saying exactly what we've all been saying. The game should've been delayed for a 2021 release. I'm really skeptical of how they're going to bounce back from this with Neil going this agenda route with games.

Breh wtf are you talking about? Bounce back from what? Delayed?

:dahell:
 

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Dude lets put this shyt aside as men. The majority gamers and YouTubers are saying exactly what we've all been saying. The game should've been delayed for a 2021 release. I'm really skeptical of how they're going to bounce back from this with Neil going this agenda route with games.

They'll be fine, but the critical acclaim for the series is probably crushed now for the average user base (the media still loves it), if they do a part 3 it needs to rebuild somethings story telling and character wise. I don't think most people really have an attachment to ellie anymore and Abby is hit or miss with most people.

And who know's whats going on with the cure or why there are all of a sudden random new type of infected.

There just needs to be some order an direction for the series.


The next game should probably pit all 3 together, Lev, abby and ellie. Also this game could use a healthy dose of " choose your adventure time dialogue and actions" at this point, it doesn't have to change up the end game much if any but it would make for a much more engaging games
 

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Listen it's not like Joel had a whole lot of time to consider what was going on.

For one, the patrols specifically look for survivors.

Two he found her trapped as a hoard of zombies started chasing them.

Is it in Joels character to go "you know she might be bad let's leave her there to die just in case" ? :usure: That doesn't feel like Joel to me.

Then they get trapped by the hoard behind a barrier that's about to break. There is also a blizzard going on outside. They end up taking horses through the blizzard as infected continue to chase them as they go to the only close by shelter they are aware of.

Please explain to me when in all of this Joel was supposed to make sure it was safe to go with Abby and please explain what other choice he had?

Joel's choices are

1. Leave Abby to die as she's trapped under a filing cabinet with infected on top of her.

2. Interrogate Abby as to who she is mid fighting a hoard and running through a blizzard.

3. Decide to wait it out with the hoard on the other side of the barrier that's about to break or brave it alone in the blizzard away from camp.

4. Go to a safe shelter nearby to wait out the storm with a stranger.

Those are his only options. I seriously want to know what else he was supposed to do here.

People are acting like he had much if any time to be cautious or as if he had much choice about what to do. The other choices also potentially lead to death.
 

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This is an example of nikkas just automatically being dismissive to Abby and not even letting the game play out.

This nikka is complaining the whole damn time. shyt is pathetic.

More than half the people i watched play this game on YouTube has:


Called Abby all kinds of derogatory, and/or insensitive names.

bytched and complained about Abby as soon as Day 1 Seattle starts "no, no, i'm not playing as her, no"

Put the controller down when they had to play as Abby, and beat Ellie, and let Ellie kill Abby on that part. This is some corny shyt to me. They wouldn't do that if they weren't streaming.

Definitely don't watch that clown ass Angry Joe and his boys play this game. I swear he doesn't have an original opinion of any game he plays. He just goes with whatever crowd he thinks would give him more views. He didn't know who the firefly's were in TLOU. And he so called loved/was a fan of the game. Also, if you're a reviewer who cares about TLOU series. Wouldn't you not voluntarily look at the leaks before the game's release. :mindblown:
After the leaks, when many were complaining. He basically comes out with a "this sucks, it's bad, don't buy this game" video. :mindblown:

Bottom line, Angry Joe was never a fan of the series. Everyone else was, and he jumped on the bandwagon. As he always do.

There are legit gamers who dislike the game, and voice their opinions. Those people are fine in my book. But there are way too many so called "gamers" on YouTube who are really just trying to get in on trends, canceled culture, and what not.
 
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Dude lets put this shyt aside as men. The majority gamers and YouTubers are saying exactly what we've all been saying. The game should've been delayed for a 2021 release. I'm really skeptical of how they're going to bounce back from this with Neil going this agenda route with games.
Bounce back? the game sold 4 million in 3 days lol
 

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Listen it's not like Joel had a whole lot of time to consider what was going on.

For one, the patrols specifically look for survivors.

Two he found her trapped as a hoard of zombies started chasing them.

Is it in Joels character to go "you know she might be bad let's leave her there to die just in case" ? :usure: That doesn't feel like Joel to me.

Then they get trapped by the hoard behind a barrier that's about to break. There is also a blizzard going on outside. They end up taking horses through the blizzard as infected continue to chase them as they go to the only close by shelter they are aware of.

Please explain to me when in all of this Joel was supposed to make sure it was safe to go with Abby and please explain what other choice he had?

Joel's choices are

1. Leave Abby to die as she's trapped under a filing cabinet with infected on top of her.

2. Interrogate Abby as to who she is mid fighting a hoard and running through a blizzard.

3. Decide to wait it out with the hoard on the other side of the barrier that's about to break or brave it alone in the blizzard away from camp.

4. Go to a safe shelter nearby to wait out the storm with a stranger.

Those are his only options. I seriously want to know what else he was supposed to do here.

People are acting like he had much if any time to be cautious or as if he had much choice about what to do. The other choices also potentially lead to death.

It would have been real simple to create time if they wanted to, they just didn't want that because they wanted what was going to happen to be a surprise to the average players. Just like they made sure that tommy and joel didn't call out each others name the whole time until they got to the point they had to make a choice. My point isn't that they didn't have enough time, but that they should have made time so that tommy or joel did show some kind of their personal character traits that keep them alive thus far.
 
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