The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread

The Mad Titan

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You do realize that they were in the middle of a blizzard with a horde breaking into the place they were hiding at. Hell the horde chased them all the way back to the mansion. All 3 of them would've died there if they didn't go to the mansion. Plus Joel is soft af from no action happening around Jackson. You can read the logs that date back nearly a year and Ellie's Journal, they barely find any infected on their patrols to the point where Ellie calls them boring. Why do you think Dina and Ellie are just chilling smoking weed during one? Because nothing ever happens



So Joel is gonna go along with what a kid says instead of his own experiences :duck:

Did we forget that Sam and Henry left Ellie and Joel for dead once they hopped the fence? Joel was pretty pissed :sas1:



:dwillhuh: did you guys play the game or watch Youtube videos. Owen stops Manny and Jordan from killing both of them because "They're not who we came for" and "They didn't do anything wrong". Abby gets mad and tells them that they're done then they leave. It doesn't even matter if they were alive or not. Dina and Jesse were able to find them and Tommy was able to track the WLF crew days after it happened. The only way for them to get away clean would be for them to kill all five of them, which wasn't happening.


I hear this thrown around but years of surviving thrown out the window for 4 years of comfort is just a bad reason.

They could have rectified this easy by throwing in a few lines from Joel questioning why and what they were doing setup there and a scene when them being on guard or checking out things when entering the building.

Instead that just waltz in mad comfortable and then get ambushed.

I made all the same "excuses" and reasons for that scene too. But eventually I was just like nah it was bad especially it being both Tommy and joel.
 

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Oh yeah while I didn't have any interest in playing Abby's story, it turns out she is way more likeable and a better person than Ellie. Ellie kills anyone that crosses her no questions ask, Abby doesn't... She's not really about killing civilians.

I 100 percent prefer Ellie's gameplay over Abby but Ellie pretty much became an unlikable joel
 

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Oh yeah while I didn't have any interest in playing Abby's story, it turns out she is way more likeable and a better person than Ellie. Ellie kills anyone that crosses her no questions ask, Abby doesn't... She's not really about killing civilians.

I 100 percent prefer Ellie's gameplay over Abby but Ellie pretty much became an unlikable joel
She's ready to slice a pregnant woman's throat and is known as the number one scar killer. Whatchu mean :dahell:
 

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To be fair, that's after she discovered the body of her pregnant friend.
It's clear that everyone has their own motivations for doing what they're doing. My point is that neither one of them are good people. It's not a competition. They've both done equally terrible shyt. And there's no telling what else Abby has done prior to becoming a LGBT ally because we only played her for about 10 hours

Just with everything else being on the nose, they made it a point in having Mel say "You're a shytty person. You've always been one"
 

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She's ready to slice a pregnant woman's throat and is known as the number one scar killer. Whatchu mean :dahell:
She was gonna killed Dina out of revenge, but again showed restraint when Lev called out to her... In the end she really only killed who she was instructed to as a solider and those attacking her.

And killing scars was technically her job, like I said she was a solider.

Ellie killed everyone in that group with Abby that she came across even those that champion for her and Tommy to be let go because they already got Joel.
 

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I hear this thrown around but years of surviving thrown out the window for 4 years of comfort is just a bad reason.

They could have rectified this easy by throwing in a few lines from Joel questioning why and what they were doing setup there and a scene when them being on guard or checking out things when entering the building.

Instead that just waltz in mad comfortable and then get ambushed.

I made all the same "excuses" and reasons for that scene too. But eventually I was just like nah it was bad especially it being both Tommy and joel.
You talking about when Joel and Tommy where entering the little campout of Abby and them? When would they even have time to question that? It was sudden.
 

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You talking about when Joel and Tommy where entering the little campout of Abby and them? When would they even have time to question that? It was sudden.


It really wouldnt have been hard to show.

A simple yell in the snow after she told them about the camp.

"Tommy I don't trust this"

After stepping into the house

" Keep your eyes peeled Tommy"


Simple lines like that would have made it at least seem like they weren't completely out of character.


The problem is they probably wanted it to be a complete surprise for the player
 

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She was gonna killed Dina out of revenge, but again showed restraint when Lev called out to her... In the end she really only killed who she was instructed to as a solider and those attacking her.

And killing scars was technically her job, like I said she was a solider.

Ellie killed everyone in that group with Abby that she came across even those that champion for her and Tommy to be let go because they already got Joel.
And she made sure to kill Joel too. Was that part of just being a soldier :skip:

Killing Scars was technically her job? Breh do you hear yourself? Lol. So her job was killing people. Are we that desensitized that we don’t realize how shytty of a person someone is where their job is killing people for a living? Even in this game? :russ:
 

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It really wouldnt have been hard to show.

A simple yell in the snow after she told them about the camp.

"Tommy I don't trust this"

After stepping into the house

" Keep your eyes peeled Tommy"


Simple lines like that would have made it at least seem like they weren't completely out of character.


The problem is they probably wanted it to be a complete surprise for the player
They were literally getting chased by hordes of clickers/runners in a blizzard.
 

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And she made sure to kill Joel too. Was that part of just being a soldier :skip:

Killing Scars was technically her job? Breh do you hear yourself? Lol. So her job was killing people. Are we that desensitized that we don’t realize how shytty of a person someone is where their job is killing people for a living? Even in this game? :russ:
I'm just saying being a solider on the front line killing scars was her job and she was good at it.

She wanted Joel dead for murdering her father and damning the world to the condition it's in. That's pretty reasonable, I'm not saying it's right but there's much less that people in the last of us world seem to kill for, ellie being one of those people.


Abby is the least crappy person in the game that we played with this far.
 

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They were literally getting chased by hordes of clickers/runners in a blizzard.

Nah at the moment they stopped and debated about going back to town or not and she told them it wouldn't have taken a second for that line to be said afterwards and it would have changed the whole dynamic.

Like I said they wanted Joel and Tommy getting jumped to be a surprise. But most people already had in there head "are you really going to follow this person back to there camp like this"
 

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This is an example of nikkas just automatically being dismissive to Abby and not even letting the game play out.

This nikka is complaining the whole damn time. shyt is pathetic.

The game gets the same complaints that The walking dead started to get.

I understand why especially if you've been waiting on the game for 7 years to play and finish Joel and Ellie's story.


It's kind of a let down in that department
 
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