The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread

[Black Magisterialness]

The 1st was a top five gen experience. This was all over the place.

I think its for sure up there. And what part was all over the place? Again, I truly want to know what you mean by this. Its not perfect, but I think its a DAMN good game.

That guy dikk riding shamelessly. Top 5 games this gen is GoW, HZD, Spiderman- RDR2 and anything that isnt TLOU2

So dikk riding is stating I like the game? I'll engage people that actually have points. In regards to my previous post, you did not.

Now in terms of top 5, I think this game is really up there. I could say my list is the same as that perhaps with Horizon as the odd game out and putting in FF7R. So GoW, FF7R, Spiderman, RDR2 and TLOU 2. Again, I think people really missed the point of the game and instead focused on the fact Joel got killed.

 

[Kairi Irving]

I think it’s fanboyism - since people on both sides aren’t budging about their opinion on the game. Some people think it’s perfect 10/10 (which is bs) others think it’s garbage (it isn’t, but it’s a Major step down from 1). Naughty Dog knew this would happen. But it makes me wonder how do you make a game with universal acclaim (1) than fumble with the story so bad with the sequel?

People are saying Neil sabotaged the game because he didn't write Joel's character. this game is a "Fukk you" to former Naughty Dog colleagues whom were 'forced out' is what i've been hearing. The game is a 8/10 in gameplay, 7/10 in story and 8/10 visuals. i honestly think Days Gone can compete with this game in a visual / story sense. Neil Druckmann gotta go imo.

 

[Kairi Irving]

I think its for sure up there. And what part was all over the place? Again, I truly want to know what you mean by this. Its not perfect, but I think its a DAMN good game.


So dikk riding is stating I like the game? I'll engage people that actually have points. In regards to my previous post, you did not.

Now in terms of top 5, I think this game is really up there. I could say my list is the same as that perhaps with Horizon as the odd game out and putting in FF7R. So GoW, FF7R, Spiderman, RDR2 and TLOU 2. Again, I think people really missed the point of the game and instead focused on the fact Joel got killed.

You cant read. Still trying to desperately believe no one understands the story because Joel died we been off that for a long time, the story is about revenge and like Arthur says 'Revenge is a fools game'. Its not deep. Its not a great story. Its your opinion that you think its a 'top 5' game, thats nice but opinions aren't based in facts you cant make anyone like the game by constantly saying people 'missed the point' when the point is why we dont like the fukking game maybe if RDR2 didn't beat TLOU2 to it we all would probably like this game in an alternate universe

 

[Infamous45]

I think its for sure up there. And what part was all over the place? Again, I truly want to know what you mean by this. Its not perfect, but I think its a DAMN good game.


So dikk riding is stating I like the game? I'll engage people that actually have points. In regards to my previous post, you did not.

Now in terms of top 5, I think this game is really up there. I could say my list is the same as that perhaps with Horizon as the odd game out and putting in FF7R. So GoW, FF7R, Spiderman, RDR2 and TLOU 2. Again, I think people really missed the point of the game and instead focused on the fact Joel got killed.

I disliked Joel being clubbed to death. It was out of character for him to not be cautious. We knew he was going to die before the game came out since we were told by ND it would be just Ellie I just wanted him to go out better than that. The game play didn’t really Change that much. Abby .... the switch irked tf out of me - i didn’t care about her, I didn’t care about her daddy,her bf Owen, xaolin showdown trans boy and the sis - that preggo chick Owen was with, manny, etc. but I believe that’s what nd wanted. The best parts for me was the Joel and Ellie flashbacks. The ending pissed me tf off the most - I went through all shyt as Ellie to not finish the job??? All throughout the game I’ve killed countless people including dogs and Abby is the one that’s spared? I get it it, Abby is a foil to Ellie but I still didn’t appreciate it. I wish there were choices implemented. I’ve seen reviewers saying this is pushing gaming forward but to me RDR2 already did that prior.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

You cant read. Still trying to desperately believe no one understands the story because Joel died we been off that for a long time, the story is about revenge and like Arthur says 'Revenge is a fools game'. Its not deep. Its not a great story. Its your opinion that you think its a 'top 5' game, thats nice but opinions aren't based in facts you cant make anyone like the game by constantly saying people 'missed the point' when the point is why we dont like the fukking game maybe if RDR2 didn't beat TLOU2 to it we all would probably like this game in an alternate universe

Cool as long as we are on the point of "I just don't like it." That's fine. But to call it a BAD game is absolute foolishness.

I disliked Joel being clubbed to death. It was out of character for him to not be cautious. We knew he was going to die before the game came out since we were told by ND it would be just Ellie I just wanted him to go out better than that. The game play didn’t really Change that much. Abby .... the switch irked tf out of me - i didn’t care about her, I didn’t care about her daddy,her bf Owen, xaolin showdown trans boy and the sis - that preggo chick Owen was with, manny, etc. but I believe that’s what nd wanted. The best parts for me was the Joel and Ellie flashbacks. The ending pissed me tf off the most - I went through all shyt as Ellie to not finish the job??? All throughout the game I’ve killed countless people including dogs and Abby is the one that’s spared? I get it it, Abby is a foil to Ellie but I still didn’t appreciate it. I wish there were choices implemented. I’ve seen reviewers saying this is pushing gaming forward but to me RDR2 already did that prior.

I see what you mean. I think Joel usually is cautious, and he's proven RIGHT by being heroic and helping someone out. I personally took that as part of the point. I also see why people are shocked by the Abby switch but to me the point was to illustrate the impact of Tommy and Ellie's vengeance and violence. Every single human you kill is named and has value to someone. I think this game did a great job at showing us this. This is further illustrated by Ellie's boss fight. She's fukking ruthless, to the point where if she even sees you its instant death. She's become the heartless, murder force of nature that she thought she was hunting.
In the end, she chose to say "...fukk it."

 

[Kairi Irving]

Cool as long as we are on the point of "I just don't like it." That's fine. But to call it a BAD game is absolute foolishness.



I see what you mean. I think Joel usually is cautious, and he's proven RIGHT by being heroic and helping someone out. I personally took that as part of the point. I also see why people are shocked by the Abby switch but to me the point was to illustrate the impact of Tommy and Ellie's vengeance and violence. Every single human you kill is named and has value to someone. I think this game did a great job at showing us this. This is further illustrated by Ellie's boss fight. She's fukking ruthless, to the point where if she even sees you its instant death. She's become the heartless, murder force of nature that she thought she was hunting.
In the end, she chose to say "...fukk it."

its not terrible but its not great either. Notice how when talking about RDR2 its either everything its advertised as or 'boring'.Not even a bad game, just thought of as boring lol, where as TLOU2 is great or pure shyt. Speaks volumes.

 

[the cool]

days gone is better than this game.

 

[Kairi Irving]

days gone is better than this game.

Crazy when you think about it

 

[Thanos]

The gameplay is a good improvement from the first, but in all honesty, I do not want any more zombie games. The genre is real stale.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

The gameplay is a good improvement from the first, but in all honesty, I do not want any more zombie games. The genre is real stale.

I actually agree with this take 100%

 

[4-Rin]

That guy dikk riding shamelessly. Top 5 games this gen is GoW, HZD, Spiderman- RDR2 and anything that isnt TLOU2

You didn't like the Witcher 3?

 

[Kairi Irving]

You didn't like the Witcher 3?

Never played it. You can argue Witcher 3, FF7 or RE2 Remake.

 

[Lannister]

That guy dikk riding shamelessly. Top 5 games this gen is GoW, HZD, Spiderman- RDR2 and anything that isnt TLOU2

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Ive played all of those and I think this game is superior to each one cept RDR2.

 

[Kairi Irving]

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Ive played all of those and I think this game is superior to each one cept RDR2.

 

[KushSkywalker]

I don't think it was out of Joels character to save Abby.

So Joel and Tommy are out on patrol. Abby is literally tracking them to find Joel so when this infected wave hits it is not much of coincidence they run into eachother since Abby is literally closing in on them.

Now you see a woman trapped as an infected wave and blizzard approaches. Joel running and leaving her to die doesn't seem like Joel to me. So he gets her and they don't have much time to consider anything else but running and fighting to live. Eventually they each a point where the barricade built is not going to hold back the hoard and there is a blizzard outside. So they need shelter, and they also need to leave where they are quickly.

This doesn't give them much of a choice and the mansion hideout seems like the only choice at the moment given the circumstance. Was it naive sure but what other choice did he have? Sit in there and wait for the infected? wait outside in the snow? It all seemed to make sense from Joel as a character to me.Joel has a heart and takes action off instinct. Seeing a woman trapped by infected he could save would trigger this instinct imo. Also it appears from Joels point of view she is trying to repay a favor for him saving her.

Nothing about this doesn't make sense to me. I've heard people say Joel deserved a heroic death but at the same time say the writing was forced. Writing Joel to save Jackson in a hail of gunfire as he gives his life protecting everyone fighting 100 infected wouldn't have made it better would be just as forced to make him seem heroic.

Saying he didn't get the death he deserved. It's The Last of Us. Everyone is piece of shyt murderers but people are mad Joel got taken out without a heros death. If anything Joel getting taken out the way he did makes more sense logically within the rules of this universe. It just doesn't appease the emotions of the player. Which is kind've the point. You're supposed to be shocked, and mad and feel the abrupt nature.