The Get Down Part 1 & 2 (Official Thread)

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It isn't in dispute that Herc's (Jamaican) parties on Sedgwick in the Bronx provided the framework for what became the b-boy scene (Hip Hop).

Or that Flash was the Bronx's most influential deejay. Or that Bam and the Zulus were the most influential crew.

Ignoring that would be revisionism.

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There were afram djs that predate them, and started the scene
 

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Were there caribbeans and hispanics,of course
But the scene was still Afram dominated. The sonic signature of early hip hop music was funk and disco. Two afram dominated music genres

Most caribbeans lived in the north bronx. As they do today

Im from the southeast bronx


there was plenty of west indians in the south bronx back then but their culture didn't permeate in the Bronx/mainstream.The only Caribs that were popping was Ricans but their culture had nothing to do with HipHop.


The whole Bronx scene was really driven by young people of Caribbean heritage: Jamaica (Herc), Barbados (Flash and Bambaata) and Puerto Rico (Rock Steady Crew, Charlie Chase).

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Dj Disco King Mario

He was actually from Bronx scene and one of the founder/leaders of the Black Spades.


REMEMBER DISCO KING MARIO


This Saturday [August 18th 2001] Hip Hop's pioneers will be coming out in full force to pay tribute to the memory of one of its legendary DJs who passed away a few years back-Disco King Mario. We often hear about the achievements of people like Bambaataa, Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash, but very little is said about some of the other pioneers who also laid down much of the foundation we now call Hip Hop. Cats like Pete DJ Jones, Grand Wizard Theodore, the late DJ Flowers and of course Mario were key architects.

Disco King Mario never released no records. He didn't produce no major rap stars. I'm not even sure if he ever toured around the world once Hip Hop became known world wide. However, for those of us who were around back in the beginning days of the 70s, Disco King Mario who lived upstairs from my man DJ Paradise of X-Clan over in the Bronxdale Housing projects, was a household name. He was known for throwing some of Hip Hop's best jams and keeping the party going. He was staple in early Hip Hop whose name and his crew Chuck Chuck City was mentioned on many of the early tapes. One of Mario's unwritten contributions was mentioned on many of the early tapes. One of Mario's unwritten contributions was how he gave
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Afrika Bambaattaa a helping hand. He used loan Bam his dj equipment. Later on Bam would face Mario in his first official DJ battle. Back in the early days it was Disco King Mario who was at the top of heap and the man to beat
Today its hard for people to understand the significance of the DJ. When Hip Hop first began it wasn't the rapper who was in charge. It was the DJ. It was the DJ came to symbolized the African drummer. It was the DJ who kept the pace and set the tone. It was the DJ who rocked the crowd and was the supreme personality who garnered the spot light. Everyone else including the rappers were secondary. Cats from all over came to your party based upon who was deejaying. Hence when Disco King Mario's name was mentioned cats came from all over because he was the man. He was the type of cat who simply had that magic and command of the crowd. Sadly he passed away before his time, unknown to many of today's bling bling artists who benefit from the culture he helped laid down.

If you happen to be in New York, you may see a flyer being circulated around that is reminiscent of the old school flyers from back in the days. 'By Popular demand DJ Cool Clyde, Lightnin Lance, The Nasty Cuzins, Quiet Az Kept Present their first annual Old School Reunion & Picnic'. It lets you know that the celebration for Disco King Mario is taking place Saturday August 18th at Rosedale 'Big Park' in the Bronx. The Big Park itself is legendary. When I was a kid living on Croes Avenue, we were absolutely forbidden to go across the street to the Big Park. That was because the Big Park was where many of many of the early Black Spades used to hang out. The Spades at that time were the largest and most notorious gang at that time. They eventually evolved to become The Mighty Zulu Nation. As for the Big Park, it eventually became the place where Disco King Mario would eventually throw many of his early gigs.

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There were afram djs that predate them, and started the scene

Were there southern black deejays in the Bronx before Herc? Yes.

Were they spinning James Brown beats and the other breaks that would influence and create the b-boy scene? No, that was Herc's contribution.

Most city parties outside of what was happening with Herc/Mario/Black Spades-Zulus in the Bronx were musically reflecting what Frankie Crocker played on 'BLS and Gerry Bledsoe on WWRL.

 

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there was plenty of west indians in the south bronx back then but their culture didn't permeate in the Bronx/mainstream.The only Caribs that were popping was Ricans but their culture had nothing to do with HipHop.

Dj Disco King Mario

Mario was a black Puerto Rican, just like Mr. Magic was.

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Mr. Magic

Birth name
John Rivas

Born March 15, 1956
Bronx, New York, United States

Died October 2, 2009 (aged 53)
Brooklyn, New York, United States

Mr. Magic debuted in 1981 on WHBI-FM in New York City with the first exclusive rap radio show to be aired on a major station. Billing itself as Rap Attack, Magic's show featured Marley Marl as the DJ and Tyrone "Fly Ty" Williams as the show's co-producer. Magic moved to WBLS-FM in July 1982. Magic's reign on the New York City airwaves lasted six years and was instrumental in broadening the scope and validity of hip-hop music.[2] Mr. Magic recorded one 12" single as an artist "Magic's Message (There's A Better Way)",[3] produced by Spyder D for Posse Records in 1984. He is also interviewed in the 1986 cult documentary Big Fun In The Big Town. [4]

During the mid-80s there was a rivalry between Mr. Magic and Kool DJ Red Alert, who hosted a weekly show on WRKS-FM. The feud also played out between proxy rap groups, the Juice Crew and Boogie Down Productions (see The Bridge Wars). The Juice Crew - headed by Mr. Magic's on-air assistant, DJ Marley Marl - was named after one of Magic's aliases, "Sir Juice."[5]

In 2002 Magic lent his voice to Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, as himself, a DJ on one of the in-game radio stations.

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Were there southern black deejays in the Bronx before Herc? Yes.

Were they spinning James Brown beats and the other breaks that would influence and create the b-boy scene? No,


yes they did




that was Herc's contribution.

nah, hercs main contribution was noticing the people at his jams would "go off" at the break parts so he then only started playing that part

As I noted before, he was not the first to play or discover the "break" parts of the records considering we know for a fact that Disco Dj's were already doing this. The difference between the two was the Disco crowd liked the break parts but wanted to hear the entire song while the Herc crowd only wanted to hear the break parts.




Most city parties outside of what was happening with Herc/Mario/Black Spades-Zulus in the Bronx were musically reflecting what Frankie Crocker played on 'BLS and Gerry Bledsoe on WWRL.



those people played breaks(funk), disco funk and hustle disco music. Listen to this hank span radio spot from 1971! and you can hear him playing an obscure/non-mainstream break (skull snaps)

 

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Were there southern black deejays in the Bronx before Herc? Yes.

Were they spinning James Brown beats and the other breaks that would influence and create the b-boy scene? No, that was Herc's contribution.

Most city parties outside of what was happening with Herc/Mario/Black Spades-Zulus in the Bronx were musically reflecting what Frankie Crocker played on 'BLS and Gerry Bledsoe on WWRL.



Funk disco dj culture birthed hip hop club dj culture. Most techniques found in early hip hop were just turnover from the disco dj
Herc tried to play caribbean rhythms but new york,being largely AFRAM, wanted funk and disco
The funk/disco scene birthed the hip hop scene
 

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Before the 80s FUKKERY, Get Down Bros with Herc/Flash/Zulu made the cypher complete:lupe:

...Misty/Regina/Yolanda>>>Mylene's-flaky-ass:yeshrug:

All Cadillac:stylin: wanna to do is be the only Travolta, tho:mjcry:
 
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