The fact Killer Mike's rules of how Black America can save itself is actually controversial speaks volumes.

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Like with most things, the truth is somewhere in the middle.

There's some things Black people do that ELEVATE the problems we have. Having kids out of wedlock is one thing but there's also the issue of Black men attacking and killing each other, drug usage, overspending, and a lack of value of education.

These are things that can be worked on to lessen the damage done to our communities.

That said, none of this is actually going to close in the racial wealth gap and many of our issues were engineered by the government or racism such as the The Tulsa Massacre, Crack Epidemic, no reparations paid out to us that the Jews and Japanese were able to get paid for ASAP, biases and discrimination in various job markets, disparities in the quality of food sources that affect health problems, disparity of educational resources, etc.

So, on the surface level, Killer Mike is right but his point more so serves the role of lessening the negativities we're faced with rather than tackling issues on a systemic or national level. Black Men have high enrollments in trades and Black women have high educational attainment so it's not as if this advice hasn't been implemented to a degree.

But his advice has more positive short term benefits rather than long term impact. It's great advice but, ultimately, won't lead to long term closure without government intervention. Black people had sky high poverty rates in the 1950's and 1960's during a time where we had the highest marriage rates in the country and high rates of small business ownership with less association with the street life and drugs which also goes to show that the ultimate root of the problem is systemic.
 
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He’s right

But as usual, black people hate Reality, Accountability and responsibility


nikkas going to be on the coli in 2045 talking about reparations
The amount of comments that you’d think you would see on st0rmfr0nt pop up on here far too often. Jesus fukking Christ

The idea that someone would say this after watching the way white people have acted for the past 40-50 years is infuriating
 

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You could vote for black progressives in ur local elections
been doing that, and any and everything left of center.

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He’s right

But as usual, black people hate Reality, Accountability and responsibility

nikkas going to be on the coli in 2045 talking about reparations
No black people do not hate reality, accountability, and responsibility

Y’all have to stop with this cornball shyt cause all you doing is kicking up dust during a serious convo
 
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But you never see people doing this. All I see is Reagan era bootstrap ideology which only exists to cover up for structural racism and white supremacy

Any black person who says we can bootstrap our way completely out of this situation without assistance from social programs and public policy is being disingenuous at best and a sellout at worst.

There is absolutely some things we can do on our own to improve our situation collectively, but closing the gap with our white counterparts will absolutely require properly enforced government policy as well
 

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I saw F.D Signifier talking about this, and I disagreed with his take about calling this "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" talk.

Yeah capitalism sucks, but a Socialist Revolution is not happening tomorrow. The next Vladimir Lenin is not emerging any time soon. Black people have to exist and find ways to live comfortably in the society and economic system they currently live in right now.

Saying things like black people need to go to school, learn skills that are valuable to the market, live below their means, and find alternative streams of revenue is not simping for capitalism, but just the basis for what should be the standard in black households, because we're at the bottom of society economically. We can figure out the rest simultaneously or later.
FD Signifier is a coward. If white liberals made nikkas in labs he'd be one of the variations

The wave of black hyper socialists is the bulk of them having given up on life and wanting this social utopia where they can eat and fukk all day. These same people also love the toys created, and administered by capitalism
 
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I saw F.D Signifier talking about this, and I disagreed with his take about calling this "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" talk.

I can't explain how much I hate that dude. Every Black person in "Bread Tube" are so out of touch, but he's the worst. Worse than the Caribbean dude, worse than the always depressed dude. Worse than the females...
 

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Also my condolences for being stuck in Texas brother. How did the local elections that aren't state go for y'all?

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Jessica Cisneros was Bernie backed candidate in my state that I voted for that got fukked over by the DNC and Neo-Liberals that supported a corrupt conservative anti-choice Democrat




 

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I hate when people disagree with something without providing any explanation as to why. But I will say, none of this will ever happen. Social media is a monster right now, and that's all that matters really. I will say, I don't think having kids out of wedlock is an issue; I believe people having kids without financial stability and unstable/incompatible parents are. Having children shouldn’t be something that just happens on a whim, children should be planned.

PS: Has it gotten to a point now that a Black man can't even give positive advice without pushback from other Black people?
 
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What he said in the clip is definitely part of the solution. I don’t understand how people can disagree. Definitely not the complete solution. What are the other steps that can close the wealth gap?

None worth mentioning.

Because the wealth gap came about due to mass wealth theft via slavery and also preventing and destroying Black wealth building for centuries. And you can't fix that through saving your income and running small scale or mid range businesses.

Case in point....

Kate Mara. The actress. From the show House of Cards.

Kate Mara's family owns the Pittsburgh Steelers via Art Rooney who founded it and the NY Giants via founding owner Tim Mara. And they have since the 1930's when Black people wouldn't have been allowed to buy a football team even if they had the money.

Another example is Julia Louis Dreyfus. The comedian.

Her family owns the Louis Dreyfus Company. A multi billion dollar shipping company that's been around since the 1850's.

So that's what Black people are up against. Two random white celebrities having billions in wealth. Now multiply that times hundreds of families. So that gap is never closing.
 

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Is he denying systematic racism or are we assuming this?
This is often a disingenuous take.

We know systematic racism exists, and we know how much it permeates society worldwide

The part of taking on white supremacy that black folks often fail to acknowledge is that we lost. This is important because there are 1000 things we need to fix on our own before taking it on again if we're gonna make substantial changes

The issue is whenever the issues of black repair and accountability come up, we get stuck arguing over 50 excuses why we can't do anything. There's also the lingering idea that we can't challenge white people's bullshyt and our own at the same time. We can, but black folks gotta start being serious about our internal issues that are actively being used against us because the world is hip now
 
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