The Elephant In the Racialised Room: The Conundrum of Black-Arabness

[emoney]

1) your claiming people have pre-concieved notions regarding Arabs but you followed that sentence up with a lot of generalizations of your own. How can you criticize people for doing something and then do it yourself?

2) prove this (I already know you can't)

btw, Arabia is part of Asia..always has and always will. Your only trying to connect it to Africa to justify your Black Arab identity.

3) The original Berbers were White Eurasians that back migrated into Africa and settled along the coasts of North Africa. Black Berbers are "Berberized/cized" and this why you are a minority amongst the Berber collective.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

Clearly you have no Idea what you are talking about Yemen, Bahrain, Qatari, Saudi, UAE and Kuwait are Gulf/Qaleej nations. They are the ones that are fat, racists, uneducated pieces of shyt. No lie they are known through out the Islamic world as Camel fukkers and homo-sexual. Don't try and tell us they are cool..

If there are any cool Arabs its probably the Algerians, Palestinians and Iraqis. fukk the rest of em.

nah brah

 

[Solomon Caine]

nah brah

Well maybe from your experience, and I do believe you bro. Compared to Egyptians tho they (Algerians) are a lot better. Ever since them Libyans showed their true colours by turning on blacks after the great Gaddafi was killed. Its been fukk them North African Arabs.

 

[Solomon Caine]

Ay-rabs are the worse people on earth. I'm so glad the Jews are fukkin them up. Can't believe black folks have the nerve to go against Israel. They may be racist but they are WAY better than the Arabs. As they say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And Arabs are all black peoples enemy. If they still ruled the world, they might try to re-institute the slave trade. Ya'll need to the peep the stories if how they treat black immigrants in Saudi Arabia. Its almost like modern-day slavery.

Take it easy brehs. I can understand where all the anger is coming from. But Israel is an evil regime that drinks and bathes its self on the blood of innocence and children. As blacks (people who have been oppressed) we can not turn around and condone that shyt.

The Israelis are attacking the wrong Arabs. Palestinians are beautiful people far from racist. Most of my best friends are Palestinians.
If there is one thing we all agree on is out hatred for the other Arabs, specially the Gulf Nations that are actually secretly allied with the Zionists (Saudis, Qataris, UAE etc etc..).
They treat Palestinians and Iraqis the same way they would treat us blacks.

Israelis is extremely racist to blacks and anyone else as well.

 

[NKVD21stdivision]

They treat Palestinians and Iraqis the same way they would treat us blacks. Israelis is extremely racist to blacks and anyone else as well.

Youd still probably get treated worse by arabs.

 

[MVike28]

brehs I don't know where to start..


the ignorance and lack of subject matter is


the fukkery in this thread is on one

 

[BlackBieber]

"I'm Arab."

 

[50CentStan]

They fooled Brother Malcolm because he's never met them before. Plus why would you expect them to treat someone like Malcolm and some African Immigrant the same? I'm Muslim but they don't fool me with that we are all brothers crap.. Because I know the moment I turn my back they probably talking their racist shyt again.

I was in the middle east recently and a WHITE man was walking down the street with his son.. Everything stopped and they where all observing him as if an ANGEL had just been send down from the heavens. shyt is embarrassing b.

Hell the way they talk to me before they see my western passport and after they see it. Is enough evidence for me. The first question after that is where are you originally from.

I'm sorry but you're no Muslim if you dislike a brother because of their nationality or race. You are just like the people you dislike. I already explained why the Arab racism exists today. I'm from America

 

[Imyremeshaw]

Clearly you have no Idea what you are talking about Yemen, Bahrain, Qatari, Saudi, UAE and Kuwait are Gulf/Qaleej nations. They are the ones that are fat, racists, uneducated pieces of shyt. No lie they are known through out the Islamic world as Camel fukkers and homo-sexual. Don't try and tell us they are cool..

If there are any cool Arabs its probably the Algerians, Palestinians and Iraqis. fukk the rest of em.

Algerians are some the most racist people, spare me the bullshyt. Notice I didn't include Saudi, UAE, those nations don't eve treat there native people correctly. Im going off my personal experience, since I am Morroccan and lived in the Kuwait, Qatar, and Bahrain before moving to America.

 

[Imyremeshaw]

1) your claiming people have pre-concieved notions regarding Arabs but you followed that sentence up with a lot of generalizations.

2) prove this (I already know you can't)

btw, Arabia is part of Asia..always has and always will. Your only trying to connect it to Africa to justify your Black Arab identity.

3) The original Berbers were White Eurasians that back migrated into Africa and settled along the coasts of North Africa. Black Berbers are "Berberized/cized"

2) Let me find you some english sources to cite this, I have French and Arabic sources, I will translate them if need be.
I was wondering if you ever read Glory of the Black Over The White by Al-Jahiz? According to Al-Jahiz, Arabs are counted among the Black races.
It is recorded in the Hadith that the Prophet Muhammad, SAW, said he was sent to the Red and Black. Do you say the Arabs called themselves Red?
Also, what is different from the climate of the Arabian Peninsula that would make the original inhabitants there “White” but the inhabitants of lands in Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya, all directly across from the Arabian Peninsula, Black?
As an native Arabic speaker, you cant deny that sayyid and aswad(Black) both come from the same Arabic root words?

3)Original berbers are white? So im berberized? Get the fukk outta here, My family can trace our history back from when arabs first arrived in Morocco. I never heard the term white or black berbers till I moved the USA, y'all really barking up the wrong tree.

 

[emoney]

2) Let me find you some english sources to cite this, I have French and Arabic sources, I will translate them if need be.
I was wondering if you ever read Glory of the Black Over The White by Al-Jahiz? According to Al-Jahiz, Arabs are counted among the Black races.
It is recorded in the Hadith that the Prophet Muhammad, SAW, said he was sent to the Red and Black. Do you say the Arabs called themselves Red?
Also, what is different from the climate of the Arabian Peninsula that would make the original inhabitants there “White” but the inhabitants of lands in Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya, all directly across from the Arabian Peninsula, Black?
As an native Arabic speaker, you cant deny that sayyid and aswad(Black) both come from the same Arabic root words?

3)Original berbers are white? So im berberized? Get the fukk outta here, My family can trace our history back from when arabs first arrived in Morocco. I never heard the term white or black berbers till I moved the USA, y'all really barking up the wrong tree.

Your all over the place...hold up on quoting irrelevant books and sciptures

BEFORE we continue the discussion I'm going to need to you define "Black" and "African". It wouldn't make sense to continue without defining the variables.

These are my definitions:

Blacks racial group of the people who were originally referred to as "Negroes" by the Europeans.

Africa/n the indigenous peoples of the continent that we refer to as Africa.



your turn

 

[Imyremeshaw]

Your all over the place...hold up on quoting irrelevant books and sciptures

BEFORE we continue the discussion I'm going to need to you define "Black" and "African". It wouldn't make sense to continue without defining the variables.

These are my definitions:

Blacks racial group of the people who were originally referred to as "Negroes" by the Europeans.

Africa/n the indigenous peoples of the continent that we refer to as Africa.



your turn

Black is anybody that ancestors are tropical adapted Africans.

African is anybody that calls the continent of Africa home indigenious or not indigenious, from the Afrikaaneers in South Africa, White berbers/Arabs in North Africa, to Tropical Adapted Africans(black people).

 

[emoney]

The fact that we have "blacks" and "white" claiming the Arab and Berber identities shows the problem. These people were race mixing and it brought about confusion.

 

[emoney]

Black is anybody that ancestors are tropical adapted Africans.

African is anybody that calls the continent of Africa home indigenious or not indigenious, from the Afrikaaneers in South Africa, White berbers/Arabs in North Africa, to Tropical Adapted Africans(black people).

elaborate

also define "Africa" NOT African but "Africa"....what is "Africa" geographically what does that include?

you defined "African" which I somewhat agree with that definition (the one underlined)

it's also interesting how you mentioned white berber/arabs of north africa (so you obviously agree that berbers/arabs can be of different races) btw, we will tackle who is original later on

 

[Imyremeshaw]

elaborate

also define "Africa" NOT African but "Africa"....what is "Africa" geographically what does that include?
you defined "African" which I somewhat agree with that definition (the one underlined)

it's also interesting how you mentioned white berber/arabs of north africa (so you obviously agree that berbers/arabs can be of different races) btw, we will tackle who is original later on

Modern Day Africa is the Continent of Africa, and I consider Sinai Pennisula part of it as well, I would geographically where the fault lines seperate Africa and Arabian pennislua (Red Sea) is where Africa ends and Arabia begins.