The Elephant In the Racialised Room: The Conundrum of Black-Arabness

[Solomon Caine]

Did you grow up in the middle east? If not I agree many arabs are racist today, but thats because of the influence of western culture. Back when whites spit on malcom X and hated him in America, he was in Saudi Arabia drinking from the same cup as white, brown, and black muslims, many of whom were arab.

They fooled Brother Malcolm because he's never met them before. Plus why would you expect them to treat someone like Malcolm and some African Immigrant the same? I'm Muslim but they don't fool me with that we are all brothers crap.. Because I know the moment I turn my back they probably talking their racist shyt again.

I was in the middle east recently and a WHITE man was walking down the street with his son.. Everything stopped and they where all observing him as if an ANGEL had just been send down from the heavens. shyt is embarrassing b.

Hell the way they talk to me before they see my western passport and after they see it. Is enough evidence for me. The first question after that is where are you originally from.

 

[Chris.B]

Trust me I traveled the Arab world with my father. They hate black people more than any racist place in Europe

 

[WaveGang]

some sudanese dude got checked by some egyptian "you're not arab". I found it funny

self hate been emebedded in us

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I don't think I understand. It seems he's trying to make a distinction between black people and Arab culture, in order to say that one can both be black and identify as Arab? because if so, that's kind of old news. Iranians for example, look like straight up white people. In fact, many "Arabs" don't even look like what the west assumes they look like. Its like those black "latino/latinas" they're obviously black, but they want to make it clear that they identify more with Latin culture than African or African American culture.

I'm black .

Secondly I grew up around Arabs and Arab culture. They are far more racist to blacks than whites. I have no idea why stupid blacks from Sudan and Eretria consider themselves a part of a race that hates der black asses.

Iranians aren't Arabs, they're Persians.

chick in the article sounds like she just wants something to whine about.

Chill, we the cradle of civilization. We ain't all on that "I ain't black" fukkery...

But yeah, Eritrea fukks with the Arabs cuz they were the first ones to help them with their independence struggle.(Naturally cuz they wanted to destabilize Ethiopia) But Sudan on the other hand....them nikkaz really believe they arabs. Thankfully I've met some good Sudanese that identified with their blackness. To me, its like how Dominicans revere Spain even tho they far removed from being a colony for the monarchy.

haha I always think its interesting when my eastern african brehs talk about their identity conflicts.

always learning something new with y'all

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

I don't think I understand. It seems he's trying to make a distinction between black people and Arab culture, in order to say that one can both be black and identify as Arab? because if so, that's kind of old news. Iranians for example, look like straight up white people. In fact, many "Arabs" don't even look like what the west assumes they look like. Its like those black "latino/latinas" they're obviously black, but they want to make it clear that they identify more with Latin culture than African or African American culture.

You can't be serious, the majority of persians look nothing like white people.

The people that look closes to white Americans in the region are Assyrians

I'm black .

Secondly I grew up around Arabs and Arab culture. They are far more racist to blacks than whites. I have no idea why stupid blacks from Sudan and Eretria consider themselves a part of a race that hates der black asses.

Eritrea brah and no we don't identify with arabs, but a lot of Eritreans do distinguish themselves from the rest of Africa which is sad as fukk.

Chill, we the cradle of civilization. We ain't all on that "I ain't black" fukkery...

But yeah, Eritrea fukks with the Arabs cuz they were the first ones to help them with their independence struggle.(Naturally cuz they wanted to destabilize Ethiopia) But Sudan on the other hand....them nikkaz really believe they arabs. Thankfully I've met some good Sudanese that identified with their blackness. To me, its like how Dominicans revere Spain even tho they far removed from being a colony for the monarchy.

nikka dont start again... Please show me one Arabic country that Eritrea has good relations with? We are currently aiding Israel, Iran, and N.K....none of em Arab. We were supported by Arabic countries since, at that time, the higher rank officers in the liberation army were Muslims, that doesn't equal supporting/having a relationship with Arabs now.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Eritrea brah and no we don't identify with arabs, but a lot of Eritreans do distinguish themselves from the rest of Africa which is sad as fukk.




nikka dont start again... Please show me one Arabic country that Eritrea has good relations with? We are currently aiding Israel, Iran, and N.K....none of em Arab. We were supported by Arabic countries since, at that time, the higher rank officers in the liberation army were Muslims, that doesn't equal supporting/having a relationship with Arabs now.

lol, so Eritrea ain't in the Arab League now? They ain't tryna make yall drop Tigrinya for Arabic now? Breh, the ELF was the Muslim movement, but the EPLF(Isaias crew) was mostly headed by Christian highlanders and even as the dominant movement in Eritrea they enjoyed plenty of aid from Arab/Muslim countries due to the centuries old desire of Saudi Arabia to destabilize and consume Ethiopia. I'm not sayin yall identify as Arabs but half yall pop. is Muslim so yall bank of that shyt cuz of Isaias' hard line stance on the West in general, Eritrea is just like Ethiopia in that its too diverse religiously and ethnically to be like Sudan or Somalia.

lol, how yall manage to be cool with Israel and Iran tho? I swear I love yall fools just for the fukkery....

 

[theworldismine13]

You can't be serious, the majority of persians look nothing like white people.

The people that look closes to white Americans in the region are Assyrians

that just depends on your POV, living in the west you get programmed to distinguish between caucasians, but lets say you are fresh out of the jungles of africa then they would all look the same to you

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

lol, so Eritrea ain't in the Arab League now? They ain't tryna make yall drop Tigrinya for Arabic now? Breh, the ELF was the Muslim movement, but the EPLF(Isaias crew) was mostly headed by Christian highlanders and even as the dominant movement in Eritrea they enjoyed plenty of aid from Arab/Muslim countries due to the centuries old desire of Saudi Arabia to destabilize and consume Ethiopia. I'm not sayin yall identify as Arabs but half yall pop. is Muslim so yall bank of that shyt cuz of Isaias' hard line stance on the West in general, Eritrea is just like Ethiopia in that its too diverse religiously and ethnically to be like Sudan or Somalia.
lol, how yall manage to be cool with Israel and Iran tho? I swear I love yall fools just for the fukkery....

There's a difference between being a member of the Arab League and an observer.

WHAT? There's never been talk within Eritrea about dropping Triginya for Arabic, half the nation don't even speak the language how da fukk would that even be possible?

ELF was the original movement, making it the dominant force up until EPLF (PFDJ) broke off...

The west... that has nothing to do with being a muslim nation/supporting muslim states.

Are you saying that we're not or what? I don't understand ur last sentence....

that just depends on your POV, living in the west you get programmed to distinguish between caucasians, but lets you are fresh out of the jungles of africa they would all look the same to you

Is that a shot at him or me?

 

[theworldismine13]

Is that a shot at him or me?

neither, both of you are correct depending on your point of view

but the notion that there is any great difference between the caucasians of western europe and the caucasians on the middle east is something we get from western culture, so i guess its a shot at you for promoting a western POV, but its not just you, everybody gets ingrained with that, im just pointing it out

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

that just depends on your POV, living in the west you get programmed to distinguish between caucasians, but lets you are fresh out of the jungles of africa they would all look the same to you

neither, both of you are correct depending on your point of view

but the notion that there is any great difference between the caucasians of western europe and the caucasians on the middle east is something we get from western culture, so i guess its a shot at you for promoting a western POV, but its not just you, everybody gets ingrained with that, im just pointing it out

Yea I see what you're saying but the majority of the Arabian peninsula are closer to having African heritage than Caucasian so I can't really agree with u.

 

[theworldismine13]

Yea I see what you're saying but the majority of the Arabian peninsula are closer to having African heritage than Caucasian so I can't really agree with u.

yeah but that is probably because they have african ancestry, but most middle easterners are caucasian

 

[Tommy Knocks]

u should see what the berbers are doing to the black libyans. theres a vice documentary on it on youtube, shyt is systematic removal and destruction. almost all of them (1/3 of the country) have fell victim, with no end in site.

That's why if I were them Id head over down south with their brothers in Ghana or Nigeria.

 

[Blackking]

that just depends on your POV, living in the west you get programmed to distinguish between caucasians, but lets say you are fresh out of the jungles of africa then they would all look the same to you

lol, no.

Yea I see what you're saying but the majority of the Arabian peninsula are closer to having African heritage than Caucasian so I can't really agree with u.

There's a difference between being a member of the Arab League and an observer.

WHAT? There's never been talk within Eritrea about dropping Triginya for Arabic, half the nation don't even speak the language how da fukk would that even be possible?

ELF was the original movement, making it the dominant force up until EPLF (PFDJ) broke off...

The west... that has nothing to do with being a muslim nation/supporting muslim states.

Are you saying that we're not or what? I don't understand ur last sentence....





Is that a shot at him or me?

True.




But I really don't know what this article is saying.... that bytch is black - period. Just because your nation gets culturally passed around like a prostitute and influenced by all these random demons doesn't make you anything but black.

 

[Robbie3000]

East africans and their identity issues nikkas will call themselves anything but black

That's not true in my experience. I have tons of Ethio and Eritrean friends, they all identify with Africa.

 

[Virtuous_Brotha]

That's not true in my experience. I have tons of Ethio and Eritrean friends, they all identify with Africa.

of course they do they would have to be retared not to but thats not what im saying.
Half of them will claim arab or some other shyt instead of identifying with black african and use the term black people in 3rd person as if they arent black themself.
sort of like them black Dominicans/latin folk who deny their black ancestry like dude said.