The Elephant In the Racialised Room: The Conundrum of Black-Arabness

[Imyremeshaw]

I'm aware of the difference between Qahtani and Adnani Arabs. I hope you don't feel like your schooling people.

1. Arabic is in fact classified as an Afro-Asiatic/Afrasan language. But the branch that it belongs was developed in Asia (along with Syriac, and Hebrew). The Arabic language is not indigenous to the African continent.

2. The Sabeans were Yemeni and they are only connected to certain Ethiopian groups who back migrated into Ethiopia from the Middle East/Arabia.

3. You seem to be using Al Jahiz as some sort of authority on authentic Africaness. He is not African and by knowledge never visited the continent. He lived and died in Arabia. That's all he knew and that's all he was (Arabian)

4. There is no research to do, you seem intent on trying to pass off Arabs as African people probably in an attempt to fix your own identity crisis.


lastly, as I have said already technically everyone has African roots as that is where humanity began. So you can literally trace all the Out of African migrants back to Africa. Arabs having "African origins" means squat. Get it, got it, good.

Recent African origin of modern humans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In paleoanthropology, the recent African origin of modern humans, frequently dubbed the "Out of Africa" theory, is the most widely accepted model describing the geographic origin and early migration of anatomically modern humans

The recent single origin of modern humans in East Africa is the predominant position held within the scientific community.[6][7][8][9][10] There are differing theories on whether there was a single exodus or several. A multiple dispersal model involves the Southern Dispersal theory,[11] which has gained support in recent years from genetic, linguistic and archaeological evidence. A growing number of researchers also suspect that "long-neglected North Africa" was the original home of the modern humans who first trekked out of the continent.

Is this nikka serious You really like going off on tangents feeling your right.

1)If Afro-Asiatic/Afrasan language was really developed in Asia, why are the majority of Semitic languages spoken in the Horn of Africa? Africans influenced Arabia, not the other way around.

2) Ok, everybody from Roman accounts, Sabeans themselves, and medievel Arab writers considered them an extension of Africa.

3)I'm not using Al-Jahiz as some authority, he was the authority back in the day, and western anthropolgy was proving things in the 18th and 19th century that he found out in 7/8th century, so excuse me if I take his words over yours. I cited him cause his works are easily in english and ONLINE, and he was Arab of black descent.

4)I'm not passing off Arabs as black people, have you read what I wrote? ANCIENT TIMES This shyt becoming a chore, really if wanna you keep interpreting what I wrote, fukk it, why are we even having a conversation my guy? Stop being an Arm chair scholar, wikipedia is not friend in this conversation. But since you do like being an Arm chair scholar, why don't look up wikipedia of what an Arab is? An ethnicity, not a race, so lets just dead this conversation cause its not going anywhere productive.

 

[Imyremeshaw]

You think the gulf Nations don't treat their own native people well? They pay them and give them housing and the best jobs. They continue to pay them while they are abroad. I don't know what you are talking about.

Secondly Morrocans are Arab, why you in here talking about how you had a good time in Arab countries. Offcourse you wouldn't have faced any racism, since you are a fellow AYRAB!! Your arguments are useless here.

Are you serious right now? Have you been to Middle East? Arabs don't even get along with themselves.
Secondly Im Arab? If walking on the street you couldn't tell the difference between me with any other African American, please spare me .

 

[Solomon Caine]

Are you serious right now? Have you been to Middle East? Arabs don't even get along with themselves.
Secondly Im Arab? If walking on the street you couldn't tell the difference between me with any other African American, please spare me .

I've seen Black Libyans and Tunisians. But never a black Moroccan. You are clearly exaggerating your blackness. Even if you are dark skinned, your first language is Arabic and so is your culture.

Any way anyone would assume you are African American is them light skinned African Americans whose genes have been tainted by white rapists.

 

[Imyremeshaw]

I've seen Black Libyans and Tunisians. But never a black Moroccan. You are clearly exaggerating your blackness. Even if you are dark skinned, your first language is Arabic and so is your culture.

Guess you never been to Morocco? Look at the link attached(of all things a Christian website) and prepared to be corrected, nikkas gotta learn everyday b..
Berber, Uregu of Morocco Ethnic People Profile
Thats my tribe, and I'm clearly black and Im treated as such in Morocco,the Middle East, or anywhere in the world

 

[emoney]

Is this nikka serious You really like going off on tangents feeling your right.

1)If Afro-Asiatic/Afrasan language was really developed in Asia, why are the majority of Semitic languages spoken in the Horn of Africa? Africans influenced Arabia, not the other way around.

2) Ok, everybody from Roman accounts, Sabeans themselves, and medievel Arab writers considered them an extension of Africa.

3)I'm not using Al-Jahiz as some authority, he was the authority back in the day, and western anthropolgy was proving things in the 18th and 19th century that he found out in 7/8th century, so excuse me if I take his words over yours. I cited him cause his works are easily in english and ONLINE, and he was Arab of black descent.

4)I'm not passing off Arabs as black people, have you read what I wrote? ANCIENT TIMES This shyt becoming a chore, really if wanna you keep interpreting what I wrote, fukk it, why are we even having a conversation my guy? Stop being an Arm chair scholar, wikipedia is not friend in this conversation. But since you do like being an Arm chair scholar, why don't look up wikipedia of what an Arab is? An ethnicity, not a race, so lets just dead this conversation cause its not going anywhere productive.

1. I never said the language family developed in Asia. I said specific languages that are part of the language family contained developed in Asia.

For example: Afro-Asiatic languages = Somali, Oromo, Chadic, Coptic, Hebrew, Syriac, Arabic

Developed in Africa = Somali, Oromo, Chadic
Developed in Asia = Hebrew, Arabic

So to reiterate, I did not say the ENTIRE language family developed in Asia, I said specific languages did


2. Understand the difference between having your origins in a place, and actually being from the place. I don't think you do.

3. whatever

4. You wan't to dead the conversation because I clearly don't agree with your ludicrous claims of Arabs being Black/African.

 

[emoney]

I agree with Amin Dada

I believe YoMamaDisDikk is exaggerating his blackness.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

damn some of y'all are obsessed with arabs, twism most definitely is.

it's like y'all have conceded defeat to the white man and have decided to take out all your frustrations on "ay-rabs"

co-signing israelis who do whatever they can to keep "the blacks" out of their country just to spite arabs

all you africans who talk that "fukk a arab" shyt sound like you have an inferiority complex, whether that's true or not, that's what it looks like.

shyt is pathetic.

and for the record I don't really get along with a lot of arabs either. Moroccans and Yemenis are cool though.

 

[theworldismine13]

damn some of y'all are obsessed with arabs, twism most definitely is.

i barely even said anything in this thread, i just posted it because i thought it was interesting and it was about black people

 

[50CentStan]

I always thought you was a troll. First off you can't tell another Muslim that he isn't a Muslim. That's not up to you to decide or judge. You can't make kuffur on some one.

Also fukk your explanation. Exactly like you said. You are from America you have never been to them parts of the world or spent long amounts of time with those people.

I never said you were or weren't, I said if you are prejudice against a Muslim you're not a Muslim, comprehensively you should have taken it as if one is prejudice against a Muslim one is not a Muslim. So what I got from your reply is that you're upset because you are prejudice. It's sad but because of people who claim to be Muslim but act nothing like Muslims should are the biggest reason the ummah is where it's at.

Ive never spent long amounts of time there, but dont assume I haven't been there.