The DC cinematic universe is straight bytch made getting a different actor for the Flash

[Dominic Brehetto]

I look at DC like this: they have rebooted half a dozen times. There are like six versions of each character in different universes. Then you have stuff like Dark Knight Returns (the 80's comic) and All Star Superman that are basically "What If"s and not connected.

For the past few months they have literally had two versions of Batman and Superman in the main continuity. In "Batman" Jim Gordon was in a robot suit playing Batman cause Bruce had amnesia. In "Justice League" Batman was a New God going in space and shyt. Super lost his powers in his own books but was fine in JL. In the same month.

Look at how many movies DCCU could be deep by now. In the same timeframe as MCU there have been 3 Batman 2 Superman and 1 GL. If you add in Superman 1-4 and 90s Batman 1-4 you would be WAAAYYY deep into a shared universe.

Smallville. 10 seasons that were well liked. Scrap it. Start over.

DC has a huge problem with continuity. They don't seem to think it matters that much.

I already knew they would use different actors for TV and movies. That's what MCU is doing soooo right. If they use DD in a movie they will probably use the same actor. Look at Agents of Shield. The series actually follows the movies and reacts to the events of the movies.

But. Agents of shield is garbage. So,who cares?

 

[flo]

Why bother restricting themselves to the tv show's narrative? Then having to make sure continuity lines up? They're going to want to do their own things.

And as good as GG is, he will look ridiculous next to Affleck and Cavill grown asses.

 

[flo]

I look at DC like this: they have rebooted half a dozen times. There are like six versions of each character in different universes. Then you have stuff like Dark Knight Returns (the 80's comic) and All Star Superman that are basically "What If"s and not connected.

For the past few months they have literally had two versions of Batman and Superman in the main continuity. In "Batman" Jim Gordon was in a robot suit playing Batman cause Bruce had amnesia. In "Justice League" Batman was a New God going in space and shyt. Super lost his powers in his own books but was fine in JL. In the same month.

Look at how many movies DCCU could be deep by now. In the same timeframe as MCU there have been 3 Batman 2 Superman and 1 GL. If you add in Superman 1-4 and 90s Batman 1-4 you would be WAAAYYY deep into a shared universe.

Smallville. 10 seasons that were well liked. Scrap it. Start over.

DC has a huge problem with continuity. They don't seem to think it matters that much.

I already knew they would use different actors for TV and movies. That's what MCU is doing soooo right. If they use DD in a movie they will probably use the same actor. Look at Agents of Shield. The series actually follows the movies and reacts to the events of the movies.

Doing different adaptions with comic book characters is not a reboot.

 

[Grifter]

alternate earths

 

[Ghost Utmost]

But. Agents of shield is garbage. So,who cares?

MoS was not garbage? So instead of MoS II they cram every JL member into .. wait for it .. BvS. Not SvB. Niqqa can't even get a part II.

Moving on. They JUST did a GL movie. DC don't have the guts to just roll with it. Like MCU stitched BOTH Hulk movies in. They don't mention the Ang Lee Joint per se, but the Ed Norton Joint picks up in a way that doesn't step on the first Hulk's toes.

So despite which titles are not your herb, the fact remains that the MCU approach takes guts. They are pushing it through the good and the bad.

None of the MCU titles are bad tho. I don't fukc wit Thor too tough but the required viewing of his title don't offend my senses. If it was just Thor I, II, III then I wouldn't watch. Kinda smart how they makin me buy all the crossover titles.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

MoS was not garbage? So instead of MoS II they cram every JL member into .. wait for it .. BvS. Not SvB. Niqqa can't even get a part II.

Moving on. They JUST did a GL movie. DC don't have the guts to just roll with it. Like MCU stitched BOTH Hulk movies in. They don't mention the Ang Lee Joint per se, but the Ed Norton Joint picks up in a way that doesn't step on the first Hulk's toes.

So despite which titles are not your herb, the fact remains that the MCU approach takes guts. They are pushing it through the good and the bad.

None of the MCU titles are bad tho. I don't fukc wit Thor too tough but the required viewing of his title don't offend my senses. If it was just Thor I, II, III then I wouldn't watch. Kinda smart how they makin me buy all the crossover titles.

Thor 1,2,iron man 2,3 are absolutely terrible films.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Doing different adaptions with comic book characters is not a reboot.

Sorry I wasn't clear. The movies are being based heavily on these Elseworld tales. That's fun and all, but it's not the "real" Batman. MoS Superman is not based on an Elseworlds version that I know of, but he's the Nolanesqe Super. Not the "real" Super.

I'm rambling. Sum it up.

Them using Frank Miller's Batman instead of the "real" Batman (and a Grim Superman) constitutes a total retelling of the character.

The basic theme with DC seems to be "reinvent". They seem to constantly start over. It shatters the illusion of a cohesive universe.

I only brought up those Elseworlds comics because they are considered far and away the best examples of said character. No Marvel "What if?" defines the character (Old Man Logan is close to being an example, but he's in 616 now).

Simply put: there seems to be no "Real Batman". Just Version X Version Y and Version Z

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Thor 1,2,iron man 2,3 are absolutely terrible films.

Didn't like either Thor movie. So you win there. IM3 was dope. IM being the best CBM ever (debatable, but it was sooo right) makes the trilogy a "four" (of "five") for me.

IM=5, IM2=3, IM3=4 ÷×+=÷×%= 4 overall.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Who in their right mind would argue that DC....who is starting their connected universe next month....isn't behind Marvel, who started their connected universe 8 years ago?


I see people saying "but the shows aren't that good" or "the actors wouldn't translate well to the big screen"....which again, is due to them not planning this out.

Fred.

DC doesnt need 8 years to establish the Justice league though so they don't need to follow marvels blueprint . they were planning to do a jla movie in 2007 without launching solo movies how come no one then was like noooo do solo movies first ??

Are u saying that DC isn't behind Marvel in terms of building their universe? I don't see how pointing that out makes someone a stan

there behind because they are 1 movie in so yes using that knowledge ok. But DCs big guns don't need the same roll out as marvel characters. So they can approach it diffrent . people are saying marvel is doing xyz why isn't DC doing the same thing !!! They are diffrent companies and diffrent properties .

 

[23Barrettcity]

I'm gonna focus on this part specifically.

Batman should be doing those numbers....it's Batman.

The Avengers should not be cracking $1 billion under any circumstances. They have always been a B-tier team, at best.

The reason they are, is because Marvel took the time to build a connected universe.

So nah...."Dark Knight Rises" aside I wouldn't go as far as to say letting Nolan lock down Batman for 7 years was a mistake....but the MCU brand is so strong right now fukking "Antman" did $500 mill.

"Antman" did $500 mill.

Let that sink in.

So yeah....if you're telling me DC would rather be right where they are....as opposed to cranking out Z-tier character movies that break half a billy....I respectfully disagree.

Fred.

DC has done one movie and is doing b vs s and launching a non A list movie 3rd in their universe . That's the difference marvel had to establish Thor cap and iron man . Your argument makes no sense really . Your saying DC is behind marvel but they didn't launch GOTG and antman until how far into their run ? DC dropping suicide squad in first phase. You seem to be penalizing DC for marvel having a head start (though DC batman was making billions during that time not like they were doing nothing ) only time will tell but marvel has diffrent properties and with no spiderman and xmen they had to go their route. 0

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Who in their right mind would argue that DC....who is starting their connected universe next month....isn't behind Marvel, who started their connected universe 8 years ago?

You dudes read facts and take it as picking a side. DC is trying to do what Marvel did, but a shortened version. Using the TV characters and arcs would've helped them achieve that.

I see people saying "but the shows aren't that good" or "the actors wouldn't translate well to the big screen"....which again, is due to them not planning this out.

Fred.

Man of steel came out 3 years ago. The universe doesnt start next month,it started 3 years ago.

 

[23Barrettcity]

As a comic fan I am grateful for the forethought they put into MCU. It's just like an ideal state of actual comics with the way the story has weaved in and out of different titles from Netflix to TV to Movies with no reboots or retcons.

It's a love letter to real comic fans. It's the same editorial oversight that has made comicbook universes so great.

It's not perfect or life changing it's just well crafted and we'll thought out. I give them their props for pulling it off.

WITH CAPTAIN AMERICA THOR GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY IRON MAN ANT MAN.. shyt's crazy Breh. They had sold all of their best characters (Spider, X Men). These niqqas made somethin from nothin. I collected comics in the 90s and I didn't know shyt about the Mandarin til IM3

Your a comic fan that didn't know who the mandarin was??? Abd really praising the same marvel that just dropped secret wars after inversion without settling that stories events . And also constantly restarts with number 1s?

 

[23Barrettcity]

I look at DC like this: they have rebooted half a dozen times. There are like six versions of each character in different universes. Then you have stuff like Dark Knight Returns (the 80's comic) and All Star Superman that are basically "What If"s and not connected.

For the past few months they have literally had two versions of Batman and Superman in the main continuity. In "Batman" Jim Gordon was in a robot suit playing Batman cause Bruce had amnesia. In "Justice League" Batman was a New God going in space and shyt. Super lost his powers in his own books but was fine in JL. In the same month.

Look at how many movies DCCU could be deep by now. In the same timeframe as MCU there have been 3 Batman 2 Superman and 1 GL. If you add in Superman 1-4 and 90s Batman 1-4 you would be WAAAYYY deep into a shared universe.

Smallville. 10 seasons that were well liked. Scrap it. Start over.

DC has a huge problem with continuity. They don't seem to think it matters that much.

I already knew they would use different actors for TV and movies. That's what MCU is doing soooo right. If they use DD in a movie they will probably use the same actor. Look at Agents of Shield. The series actually follows the movies and reacts to the events of the movies.

no offense man you say your a comic fan but you seem more like a MCU Stan or a casual fan .
Do you actually read marvel comics? Also a shared universe isn't the end all be all.
By the way marvel has recast the hulk Howard stark and war machine in the MCU but yup marvel would never recast or have multiple people play the same role

 

[23Barrettcity]

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Man of steel came out 3 years ago. The universe doesnt start until next month.

exactly. People act like DC released a bunch of flop movies while marvel is running everything . They also fail to realize that batman movies we're making bank while marvel was making movies

 

[hex]

DC doesnt need 8 years to establish the Justice league though so they don't need to follow marvels blueprint . they were planning to do a jla movie in 2007 without launching solo movies how come no one then was like noooo do solo movies first ??

there behind because they are 1 movie in so yes using that knowledge ok. But DCs big guns don't need the same roll out as marvel characters. So they can approach it diffrent . people are saying marvel is doing xyz why isn't DC doing the same thing !!! They are diffrent companies and diffrent properties .

DC needs time to establish every character in JL not named Batman and Superman. Which is why they're throwing the kitchen sink at "Batman V Superman".

You think people give a fukk about an Aquaman movie?

Fred.