The All Time Great Bernard Hopkins speaks on "TBE"

[Master Teacher]

You asked a question, I answered with the obvious response.....you lost




That's not what you asked


You asked:

Asking what YOU did which was "when has a featherweight ever headlined a PPV event?" vs asking "when's the last time a featherweight headlined a PPV event?" are 2 different questions

You asked the former and got KO'd





I said Armstrong started at Featherweight and moved up to fight for the 160 Belt. You countered with Floyd started off 125 (as an amateur), but moved up because there were no fights there () and that there was no big money either. I proved you wrong by bringing up Prince Naseem Hamed, as well as many others, and killed you.

That's how we got here. You started it by being ignorant in your boxing knowledge



I like talking boxing



That's not the discussion nor what we were discussing. You grasping for straws right now.

you proved me wrong about what, I asked what his numbers were

you brought up the fact he made 6 million like thats a lot of money in boxing lmao

one featherweight headline a PPV that did less than UFC numbers is not helping your cause at all

Thurman just turned down a 6 million dollar advance lmao, like I said the BIGGEST FIGHTS are Welterweight and Up, and always have been

you have no disproven that


He fought a guy who was a 153 pounds, so how is that better than Floyd actually fighting guys weighing 160

 

[krackdagawd]

Get off his dikk,

he had no answer for henry armstrong fighting a 153

now hes talkikng about prince naseem hamed, the lone featherweight star from the 90's who was only a star in his home country

Look at you diving into your emotions because nikkas exposed your lack of knowledge again.

Didn't you say you have connections at a boxing spot? I'm calling for receipts where is the spot at, I couldn't imagine anyone saying the stuff you be typing up in ANY legit gym.

Any top list worth mentioning is going to have the same top 5 guys in interchangeable spots Armstrong is in there deservedly so and none of the mental gymnastics you're doing to slander him and big up Floyd will change that.

I knew Floyd stans would be in this thread , you did it with Robinson, you did it with Ali. That is why I said I took a page out of @Newzz book, you nikkas don't know your history and it's easily exposed the more you post, next thread will be on Greb

 

[Newzz]

you proved me wrong about what,

Didnt you just say:

Okay I was wrong about Hamed so what

Jnikka, you just SAID I proved you wrong about Hamed, so now you back again to get embarrassed some more?

I asked what his numbers were

you brought up the fact he made 6 million like thats a lot of money in boxing lmao

6.5 million is more money in 1 check than Floyd Mayweather seen in his first 10 years as a professional


If it wasnt nothing, why did it take Floyd, who debuted in 1996, up until November 2006 to make more than 6.5 million as a base purse?

one featherweight headline a PPV that did less than UFC numbers is not helping your cause at all

I never talked about PPVs. Hamed getting 6.5 million was his base guarantee for the fight, regardless how much it sold. Numbers Floyd didnt see until he fought 10 years already and moved up 4 divisions while Hamed was making it at 126

Thurman just turned down a 6 million dollar advance lmao

Thurman was offered only a 2 million advance and a TOTAL of 6 million over 3 fights.

Thurman would have gotten a $2 million advance against the total package -- so he could have a nice chunk of the money up front -- followed by fight-night payouts of $1 million, $1 million and $2 million. Thurman was interested in the deal and even had Roc Nation Sports tweak the offer to give him payouts of $1.5 million, $1.5 million and $1 million.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11816572/thurman-turns-roc-nation-sports-offer

Hamed got 6.5 million at Featherweight for 1 single fight

like I said the BIGGEST FIGHTS are Welterweight and Up, and always have been

you have no disproven that

I dont see where I tried too. Like I said, Im addressing specific points....like a trained assassin. Im just killing you at my own pace.

He fought a guy who was a 153 pounds, so how is that better than Floyd actually fighting guys weighing 160

Considering Henry Armstrong started off as a 5'5 120lber, to be fighting for the 160 Championship is an amazing feat in itself.

Floyd started off as a 5'8 131 lber and has fought for as high as the 154 Championship.


I dont think it's as hard to comprehend as you're making it

 

[Sugar]

Goddamn @Newzz with them factual facts

 

[Master Teacher]

Look at you diving into your emotions because nikkas exposed your lack of knowledge again.

Didn't you say you have connections at a boxing spot? I'm calling for receipts where is the spot at, I couldn't imagine anyone saying the stuff you be typing up in ANY legit gym.

Any top list worth mentioning is going to have the same top 5 guys in interchangeable spots Armstrong is in there deservedly so and none of the mental gymnastics you're doing to slander him and big up Floyd will change that.

I knew Floyd stans would be in this thread , you did it with Robinson, you did it with Ali. That is why I said I took a page out of @Newzz book, you nikkas don't know your history and it's easily exposed the more you post, next thread will be on Greb

What you even talking about

I didn't say Armstrong was all time great

I just said the guy he fought for the middleweight championship was 153, why yall so mad at the truth

 

[Master Teacher]

Didnt you just say:


Jnikka, you just SAID I proved you wrong about Hamed, so now you back again to get embarrassed some more?





6.5 million is more money in 1 check than Floyd Mayweather seen in his first 10 years as a professional


If it wasnt nothing, why did it take Floyd, who debuted in 1996, up until November 2006 to make more than 6.5 million as a base purse?




I never talked about PPVs. Hamed getting 6.5 million was his base guarantee for the fight, regardless how much it sold. Numbers Floyd didnt see until he fought 10 years already and moved up 4 divisions while Hamed was making it at 126




Thurman was offered only a 2 million advance and a TOTAL of 6 million over 3 fights.



Hamed got 6.5 million at Featherweight for 1 single fight




I dont see where I tried too. Like I said, Im addressing specific points....like a trained assassin. Im just killing you at my own pace.




Considering Henry Armstrong started off as a 5'5 120lber, to be fighting for the 160 Championship is an amazing feat in itself.

Floyd started off as a 5'8 131 lber and has fought for as high as the 154 Championship.


I dont think it's as hard to comprehend as you're making it

Henry Armstrong never fought a 160 pound title, there wasn't one back then, anything over 147 was middleweight

You still on this hamed shyt

he was never a PPV star, Cotto is a bigger pay per view star than him

stop bring thing this nikka up

6.5 million is chump change

secondly HE DIDN'T WIN

I never seen any competition where you get points for trying

 

[Master Teacher]

Goddamn @Newzz with them factual facts

Like what

He says Henry Armstrong fought at 160, HE DIDN'T

 

[Newzz]

Goddamn @Newzz with them factual facts

Breh, I dont understand.


When @SkiHatDaGawd, @patscorpio, @krackdagawd, @LauderdaleBoss, @SuikodenII, @ChocolateGiddyUp, @King P, @Nemesis87, @Black_Jesus (sometimes) , @Jello Biafra, etc get the upperhand in a boxing discussion on me...I'll let them have it, because obviously they know a little more than me about what ever particular subject we talking. Hell, it happens. Everyone knows a little something more than the next man and it's only wise to use their knowledge to increase yours.


This dude @Master Teacher (how ironic of a name though) however, is persistent as fukk and is taking a prolonged beating because there's no way he can win. When @THE MACHINE told him he started off with a bang, but the tide was turning in that match....he should've listened to his corner. Instead, he wanna go all Beibut Shumenov (train himself with no corner man giving him advice) and take this beating in a fight he cant win


I will

 

[Master Teacher]

Breh, I dont understand.


When @SkiHatDaGawd, @patscorpio, @krackdagawd, @LauderdaleBoss, @SuikodenII, @ChocolateGiddyUp, @King P, @nememis87, @Black_Jesus (sometimes) , @Jello Biafra, etc get the upperhand in a boxing discussion on me...I'll let them have it, because obviously they know a little more than me about what ever particular subject we talking. Hell, it happens. Everyone knows a little something more than the next man and it's only wise to use their knowledge to increase yours.


This dude @Master Teacher (how ironic of a name though) however, is persistent as fukk and is taking a prolonged beating because there's no way he can win. When @THE MACHINE told him he started off with a bang, but the tide was turning in that match....he should've listened to his corner. Instead, he wanna go all Beibut Shumenov (train himself with no corner man giving him advise) and take this beating in a fight he cant win


I will

WIN WHAT

I asked you question if a featherweight ever headline a PPV, I didn't know, AND

I asked for Hamed numbers before i even asked those questions

Secondly

I said no featheweight has ever been the number 1 superstar in the sport, that's what I SAID

Hamed's biggest pay day was 6.5 million according to you, so that proves me point

You keep talking about Hamed for a reason I do not know

You said Henry Armstrong fought for the 160 title, he did not

there was no 160 title, anything over 147 was middleweight back then

and also he FAILED to capture the title anyway

 

[King P]

Henry Armstrong never fought a 160 pound title, there wasn't one back then, anything over 147 was middleweight

You still on this hamed shyt

he was never a PPV star, Cotto is a bigger pay per view star than him

stop bring thing this nikka up

6.5 million is chump change

secondly HE DIDN'T WIN

I never seen any competition where you get points for trying

 

[krackdagawd]

Breh, I dont understand.


When @SkiHatDaGawd, @patscorpio, @krackdagawd, @LauderdaleBoss, @SuikodenII, @ChocolateGiddyUp, @King P, @nememis87, @Black_Jesus (sometimes) , @Jello Biafra, etc get the upperhand in a boxing discussion on me...I'll let them have it, because obviously they know a little more than me about what ever particular subject we talking. Hell, it happens. Everyone knows a little something more than the next man and it's only wise to use their knowledge to increase yours.


This dude @Master Teacher (how ironic of a name though) however, is persistent as fukk and is taking a prolonged beating because there's no way he can win. When @THE MACHINE told him he started off with a bang, but the tide was turning in that match....he should've listened to his corner. Instead, he wanna go all Beibut Shumenov (train himself with no corner man giving him advise) and take this beating in a fight he cant win


I will

I'm waiting on those receipts dudes stays talking about he has connections at some boxing gym, I need names and it better not be a struggle mma spot either.

No way dude goes in there talking the nonsense he does without getting tossed out on some DJ Jazzy Jeff shyt.

 

[Master Teacher]

Thurman just turned down 6 million

I'm talking relation to MEGA FIGHTS you ignoramus

yall nikkaz are so lame, you reach for anything you can, and to deflect from the issue at hand

6 million is not mega fight money and you know it

 

[Truth200]

I met B-Hop a few times he's a real humble dude and a good person all around.

 

[Master Teacher]

I'm waiting on those receipts dudes stays talking about he has connections at some boxing gym, I need names and it better not be a struggle mma spot either.

No way dude goes in there talking the nonsense he does without getting tossed out on some DJ Jazzy Jeff shyt.

What nonsense did I say

I don't even know what newzz is even talking about, he just goes off about hamed who's not even a subject in this thread

I didn't know Hamed fought on PPV so I asked, so what

Hamed is not an all time great, so why are we even talking about him

the fact Henry Armstrong fought a 153 pound guy is a fact

The guy even corrected Hopkins in the video and said "there was no jr middle division"

no featherweight has ever been the biggest draw in the sport that is a fact

Hamed was nowhere near De Le Hoya's stardom in the 90's that is a fact

 

[King P]

Thurman just turned down 6 million

I'm talking relation to MEGA FIGHTS you ignoramus

yall nikkaz are so lame, you reach for anything you can, and to deflect from the issue at hand

6 million is not mega fight money and you know it

Thurman turned down 6 mil over 4 fights, Hamed made that in 1 fight

6 mil is not chump change, not matter how you slice it. Fighters in the past that participated in mega fights made alot less than that