The African Traditional And Diasporic Religions Thread (Santeria, IFA, 21 Divisions, Sanse + etc)

[QuintessentialMan]

I have to read this whole thread.
I have always wondered why Sango is literally IDENTICAL to Thor despite the fact that West Africa is Far Away from Norway. I just assumed that the whole of life and everything in it including any concept of religion/pantheon started in West Africa and spread slowly throughout the world.

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

I have to read this whole thread.
I have always wondered why Sango is literally IDENTICAL to Thor despite the fact that West Africa is Far Away from Norway. I just assumed that the whole of life and everything in it including any concept of religion/pantheon started in West Africa and spread slowly throughout the world.

You are spot on. When you get back to this part of the thread I think you will find these two podcast episodes very interesting. Especially if you were born on a Thursday. They are each about 3 hours long. Yaw in Akan is Shango in Ifa is Heru in Kemet

Akradinbosom pt 8 - Yaw-Heru

ODWIRA - KRADA- Soul Day of Okofo Yaw (Nat Turner): An Akan Perspective

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

My potential Godfather with that sugartank nikka 69 I'm glad I didn't choose him as a godfather and knew he was a fraud...smh.
Dude even tried to sell me an elegua without any initiation
Facts and to answer your question even the way I found the traditions was surreal. I saw a store one day while I was on the bus that had the saints and Orishas in the window and for some reason my forehead started tingling which sometimes happens to me due to me being on a spiritual journey prior to learning about IFA. I didn't know what the store was at first then I had a discussion with a friend a couple weeks later online about something unrelated and he mentioned santeria and his experience with it, how his father who was in the religion read his head when he was younger and things like that and by that conversation I was able to put two and two together and found out that the store I saw was a botanica. Out of curiosity I went in the store for a reading which is the store in the first pic in Bushwick, Brooklyn and my journey began from there, I started reading a lot about it and watching videos on African Spiritual traditions. The reading probably wasn't accurate because a babalawo can't read your orisha with shells I learned but it's what led me to go deeper.

I feel learning about some of these traditions has helped me see the bigger picture in a lot of ways though and has me thinking more about community in hopes more of our people can get on the same page. I also feel we need to get more african american ile's going here in the states but I'm sure that will happen soon and if it's meant for me to do so I would like to start one years down the line.

You should read this book. It is a sort of a diary of one Afram who became a Babalawo out here, i think you will relate. Very light read compared to the rest of this stuff. I enjoyed it.

Ojise: Messenger of the Yoruba Tradition

 

[Guvnor]

You should read this book. It is a sort of a diary of one Afram who became a Babalawo out here, i think you will relate. Very light read compared to the rest of this stuff. I enjoyed it.

Ojise: Messenger of the Yoruba Tradition

Thanks a lot man, I'll check it out.

 

[Neuromancer]

Gotta take a moment to catch up

 

[Yehuda]

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

Is anyone here initiated?

In IFA??? No. Otherwise...

 

[Guvnor]

In IFA??? No. Otherwise...

In what? Palo? Vodun?

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

In what? Palo? Vodun?

Regla De Kongo y Lukumi.

 

[Guvnor]

Regla De Kongo y Lukumi.

Palo, damn man that shyt scares me lol. You brave for that one.

Also Lucumi, nice.

Which branch of Palo do you practice if I may ask, Mayombe? Monte? Kimbisa?

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

I'm a Briyumbero. So, Briyumba.

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

I'm a Briyumbero. So, Briyumba.

Whatever details you can share, from the most exo- to esoteric, would be much appreciated. Where this took place, how you came into it, etc

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

Whatever details you can share, from the most exo- to esoteric, would be much appreciated. Where this took place, how you came into it, etc

Including myself, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that'll go into much detail about Palo. Things are alluded to, a lot of misdirection and such. Hell, my padrinos rarely speak aloud to others about Palo. It's far more secretive than Ocha. Our rites, customs, etc. Frankly, if I were to tell anyone how I came into my munanso/ilè, most would find what's da truth for me to be wholly unbelievable.

 

[Guvnor]

I'm a Briyumbero. So, Briyumba.

Never even heard of that tbh I did some really light googling and from what I gather it has to do with the way the prendas are made and things like that but it doesn't get too in depth.

Including myself, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that'll go into much detail about Palo. Things are alluded to, a lot of misdirection and such. Hell, my padrinos rarely speak aloud to others about Palo. It's far more secretive than Ocha. Our rites, customs, etc. Frankly, if I were to tell anyone how I came into my munanso/ilè, most would find what's da truth for me to be wholly unbelievable.

Yeah man, you got that right. I asked a tata what the sign was he got in my reading and he didn't even tell me which is noting like IFA where they give you the sign. I tried to look up the signs and couldn't find them but on another note can we hear you story about what led you to palo and how you found your ile and that particular rama?

I also wanna know how it has benefit you thus far?

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

Never even heard of that tbh I did some really light googling and from what I gather it has to do with the way the prendas are made and things like that but it doesn't get too in depth.



Yeah man, you got that right. I asked a tata what the sign was he got in my reading and he didn't even tell me which is noting like IFA where they give you the sign. I tried to look up the signs and couldn't find them but on another note can we hear you story about what led you to palo and how you found your ile and that particular rama?

I also wanna know how it has benefit you thus far?

Before my munanso/ilè, I knew absolutely nothing about Palo and in fact, I was told to stay away from it. As months/weeks went by, I found myself gravitating towards it (trying my best to ignore it what would knew to be true of myself), later on discovering as to why that was. I didn't purposely seek out my munanso/ilè and as stated previously, one would have to suspend belief as to how I discovered it in da first place so that's something that I regard to be extremely private. Previously, I had only known of Vodou (Ayisen particularly and West Afrikan). I had been atheistic for some years but it's as though something had awakened inside of me one day, a strong draw of sorts, a fire. Which occured after a bout of numerous tribulations I had to endure/face. Even da years in which I was atheistic, I was always drawn to what many considered to be da occult, spiritual systems and such. I'm a Southerner coming from a family that's heavily Christian yet, unbeknownst to many of them, there are or were quite a few of our kinfolks that practiced either Hoodoo or Vodou. Regarding Palo, it absolutely isn't for everyone and it isn't something one chooses. And I'm not one for dispelling or validating what many muthafukkas have been led to believe about it. One would have to go into far too much detail which could potentially go against oaths, treaties and such. It's extremely complex.