The Afghanistan - Taliban Conflict

[987654321]

They were in the country for 20yrs, spent trillions of dollars and didn’t spend time building institutions, the police, army etc? A few weeks after they leave and the country falls apart to the Taliban?

The fukk were they doing there for 20yrs. That’s more than enough time to build a functioning state

In one year just our task force successfully built two school, a big ass college, helped them improve their Poine stations, helped them train more police, reinforced their army after segregating from them then reintegrating with them. Trained medical staff and funded expansions to a hospital. Got the army, border guard, and police some experience. Helped teach agriculture to farmers across an area the size of metro Los Angeles. Reinforced commandos, army, police, fire dept, when they needed help. We also helped build roads and highways or protect them while they built them so they wouldn’t get shot at or kidnapped. All this while proverbially donkey fukking the haqqani/local Taliban. This is ONE augmented battalion sized task force. There we’re dozens doing the same thing in almost every province, unless they wanted little to no contact.

You only get small slices of news that only get released because news outlets consider them profitable. It’s wild you’d make that confident of an assumption with no experience on the subject. The don’t give af about the rest of the country, only their tribe, they made their deals long before we left. They’re now dripping their arms and going home to their families. They chose not to fight and it’s on them.

 

[Patrick Kane]

 

[987654321]

Judging by how quickly they surrendered, clearly it wasn’t much of a training

For years you’ve had several OEF veterans telling you what’s happening (the opposite), while you would never go yourself, and you settle on this? Then you type it like it’s true? You could have asked any one of us. I thought you were cooler than this? Those people aren’t robots, they don’t want to fight. They know, as individuals, they will either survive Taliban rule or they won’t. In the big scheme of things they don’t give a fukk. If you have questions just ask us or get a press pass and see if for yourself.

 

[Rell Lauren]

 

[tuckgod]

They were in the country for 20yrs, spent trillions of dollars and didn’t spend time building institutions, the police, army etc? A few weeks after they leave and the country falls apart to the Taliban?

The fukk were they doing there for 20yrs. That’s more than enough time to build a functioning state

You thought that’s what they was there for?



They cleared out all the poppy fields and started another opioid epidemic in America.

Mission accomplished.

 

[987654321]

We would have had more progress working with and training the Talibans instead of fighting them and installing a weak, corrupt government. We could still be in talks with them, but it looks like China and Iran about to eat because we were too busy playing Captain Save a Hoe

That was already tried. They said fukk nah. They got bombed and invaded until they limped into Pakistan

 

[Tom Foolery]

America bet on the Middle East and lost. China bet on Africa and won.

All those resources they put to waste. That's the real problem with America.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

very similar but with a low budget and obviously more caveman like.

And what it the TALIBAN’S incentive to create that standard of living? What are they getting out of it?

 

[NZA]

i saw one news report that said they trained them to use high tech surveillance and close air support - both of which are only provided by the US military. once the US military pulled back, afghans had to fight without those two advantages that they were trained for. the taliban, on the flipside, are experienced at fighting without that, so they do simple infantry fighting better than the puppet army we left. without an air force, the afghan army is doomed.

 

[Koba St]

America bet on the Middle East and lost. China bet on Africa and won.

All those resources they put to waste. That's the real problem with America.

We shall see about that

 

[Skooby]

This guy has a ton of videos:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ahmdyarr/media

 

[Wiseborn]

They’re trained an army, but that army surrendered

yes I was there I trained them. The issue is basically most of the people there believe in the Taliban. That's the issue.

 

[CoryMack]

The US didn't go there to train afghan's military and build that country up. Among other things they went to build a generation of veterans for this military. They went to redefine SOF's mission, because they'll be relying on them more and more going forward. All you have to do is listen to these SOF veterans podcasts and you'll hear em talk about how when they went thru selection and training most of the cadre hadn't been to war. A few years after 9/11 all the cadre training future SEALS, Green Berets, Rangers, etc., were combat vets and the difference in the training was measurable. It was basically a 20 year "scrimmage."

And they went to add desert, mountain and urban warfare to this country's military doctrine in preparation for the big one. And can you all guess where that's gonna be?

Some of you nikkas need to spend your time on the internet a little better. Every answer to your basic ass questions can be found with just a little effort. Now we have page after page of ignorant nikkas misleading other ignorant nikkas.

 

[EndDomination]

We also trained and armed the mujahideen and several other groups that later became the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

The U.S. military didn't put much money, time, or effort into training the Afghani military, never helped increase their pay, failed to even implement basic infrastructure that would help them, or fortify the country at all.

Considering the state of the country post-2003 was directly a result of the U.S. and UK's decades of occupation and destruction - it's not surprising.

They were in the country for 20yrs, spent trillions of dollars and didn’t spend time building institutions, the police, army etc? A few weeks after they leave and the country falls apart to the Taliban?

The fukk were they doing there for 20yrs. That’s more than enough time to build a functioning state

They were fukking around the entire time. Its an embarrassment.

For years the Soldiers in the Afghan army kept switching sides. Deep corruption in the Afghan government contributed to the lack of loyalty too.
On the flip side, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter

The majority of the people working in armed forces there are doing it for a paycheck, and if the choice is between supporting the low-paying government currently backed by the same country that also created the Taliban - its a hard choice and the money is all that matters.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

President Ghani done left the country

Not even a goodbye speech or nothing... Taliban done took the whole country...

women and journalists need to leave asap