Yeah, I came in here to bring up LL. On that whole "14 Shots" album that nikka was on some ridiculous gun talk shyt.
That time in 1993 where artists had to switch up and go hardcore
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Yeah, I came in here to bring up LL. On that whole "14 Shots" album that nikka was on some ridiculous gun talk shyt.
Pure facts.
Another record that played a big role in the shift was Scenario and especially the remix.
The lyrics wasn’t as “hardcore”, but the beats and energy were definitely a precursor to a lot of shyt that followed.
"Shout Rap", as some people call it... that whole posse cut vibe with the LOUD hook and the adlibs and 40 nikkas in the background... so many people were doin' that afterwards.
LA SCHMOOVE! We dont got nothin' to proooove!
WHO GOT THE PROPS! WHO GOT THE PROPS!
EVERY ONYX HOOK
Yeah, I came in here to bring up LL. On that whole "14 Shots" album that nikka was on some ridiculous gun talk shyt.
Wild thing about that... after all that loudness and gun talk...
the most remembered songs off that album were still "Back Seat of My Jeep" and "Pink Cookies"
Which proves LL was jumpin' outta character for nothing and probably woulda had a more successful album if he'd tried not to be the grimiest nikka ever.Also I think he was tryin' to resurrect that "Mama Said Knock You Out" energy... but this wasn't "I exploooode and my nine is easy to loooooad!". It was "rockabye baby on the rooftop, open up ya mouth and taste the GLOCKKKK"...
nobody's takin' that seriously.
Hmmm NWA Ice cube was violent!!
Agreed
Can’t front though, my head was rocking to most of these joints posted. Only one I didn’t listen to at all was that Vanilla Ice shyt
"Shout Rap", as some people call it... that whole posse cut vibe with the LOUD hook and the adlibs and 40 nikkas in the background... so many people were doin' that afterwards.
LA SCHMOOVE! We dont got nothin' to proooove!
WHO GOT THE PROPS! WHO GOT THE PROPS!
EVERY ONYX HOOK
Exactly!
C-Styles
Superstar
The thing about Bad Boy is that you can never count em out. Yeah puff's crew was fading out in 99 but then in late 00-01 they made a STRONG comeback with a different vibe but still on that fun sh*t while maintaining street cred ala Black Rob, Shyne, G-Dep. The bs part is that they couldn't stay out of trouble, but Bad Boy never really fizzled. They reinvented themselves every single time (well puff being the captain of course). For better or worse, French montana has been carrying the label now for half a decade, Puff knows when to switch up even if he doesn't put 100% in the label as much these days. 
The thing about Bad Boy is that you can never count em out. Yeah puff's crew was fading out in 99 but then in late 00-01 they made a STRONG comeback with a different vibe but still on that fun sh*t while maintaining street cred ala Black Rob, Shyne, G-Dep. The bs part is that they couldn't stay out of trouble, but Bad Boy never really fizzled. They reinvented themselves every single time (well puff being the captain of course). For better or worse, French montana has been carrying the label now for half a decade, Puff knows when to switch up even if he doesn't put 100% in the label as much these days.
This.
The thing with Puff is that when Ruff Ryders was hot, he tried to embrace the bad guy that he spent so much of the previous years running away from. Puff tried to adopt this hard image that he was never able to sell. It had the opposite effect especially when it bleed over into reality and him and Shyne got charged at the tail end of '99. Puff did some serious re-branding and Bad Boy having a strong 2000 and 2001 was
to witness. He even changed his name from Puff Daddy to P. Diddy.
Big Mel
@bigboss
De la Soul & Pete Rock & CL Smooth managed to stay themselves and make quality. De La's sales dipped though.
Gang Starr definitely went more hardcore on 'Hard To Earn'.
KMD went harder on Black b*stards.
Souls of Mischief tried on those heavy town accents and went darker on 'No Man's Land'.
Show & AG went VERY dark on 'Goodfellas'.
how can you accuse someone of doing something trendy that they helped invent
Was he a pioneer of gangsta rap? Yes. Most def.
BUT, his style kept changin depending on what became hot as far as style, flow, sound & look.
Hammer video they dancing they’re ass off. Fresh prince tried to make a dance although it looked wack as hell. Far as the lyrical content only fresh prince stayed true not talking about hardcore shyt.
Software
RIP Future Gohan
A 360 would mean they ended up in the same spot...
this was same album as Rump Shaker and My Cutie, so it wasn't like they tried to do some dramatic shift. Album was called 'Hard Or Smooth', so... but... another good example of how damn near every video around that time was about the same.