Tech Industry job layoffs looking scary

[3rdWorld]

Those upcoming maga tarrifs won't make the situation any easier.

 

[DJSmooth]

Computer Science Grads Say the Job Market Is Rough. Some Are Opting for a 'Panic' Master's Degree Instead​

Computer Science Grads Getting Master's Degrees in a 'Panic' | Entrepreneur

Computer science graduates are struggling to secure jobs and internships amid increased competition. Recent graduates told BI they have sent hundreds of job applications with little response.

www.entrepreneur.com

CS might turn into one of the degrees it's mandatory to get a masters in. The bar keeps getting raised.

A masters to copy and paste css from ChatGPT

 

[BeeCityRoller]

Those upcoming maga tarrifs won't make the situation any easier.

Already bought my Samsung UW Monitor and upgraded to a new PC with the 4080 Super this month. Even if tariffs don't go through they'll still raise prices and blame cost of labor/parts as the reason. They will get minimal spending out of me in 2025 while I'm getting additional certs and going into the second half of my IT program.

 

[SuaveyBoi115]

This thread gets worse everytime I check back in

 

[Conan]

Should You Still Learn to Code in an A.I. World?​

Should You Still Learn to Code in an A.I. World?

Coding boot camps once looked like the golden ticket to an economically secure future. But as that promise fades, what should you do? Keep learning, until further notice.

www.nytimes.com

Compared with five years ago, the number of active job postings for software developers has dropped 56 percent, according to data compiled by CompTIA. For inexperienced developers, the plunge is an even worse 67 percent.

“I would say this is the worst environment for entry-level jobs in tech, period, that I’ve seen in 25 years,” said Venky Ganesan, a partner at the venture capital firm Menlo Ventures.

Yes, absolutely. Coding is about the problem solving mindset, not the syntax.

 

[Serious]

Yes, absolutely. Coding is about the problem solving mindset, not the syntax.

This will f up a lot of junior / new developers.

Following llm prompts can lead down a dangerous and time sucking hole.


I still mainly use stack overflow and programming documentation.


Understanding good practices won’t come from llm.

 

[Serious]

CS might turn into one of the degrees it's mandatory to get a masters in. The bar keeps getting raised.

A masters to copy and paste css from ChatGPT

ChatGPT came out towards the end of my masters program.

My final class was a capstone.

Like 90% of the replies and responses were from ChatGPT. It was glaringly obvious that it wasn’t organic, because you could see the same verbiage from different people.

 

[Apollo Creed]

This will f up a lot of junior / new developers.

Following llm prompts can lead down a dangerous and time sucking hole.


I still mainly use stack overflow and programming documentation.


Understanding good practices won’t come from llm.

Yeah just blindly trusting LLM outputs not being about to debug.

I think I mentioned it earlier in the thread but pretty much I feel most companies will be leaner with AI copilots/Agents doing the work for a small team of business unit leads (the count and hierarchy would more so be dependent on size/scale of companies) paired with a small tech team who handles the orgs backlog of issues/needs and interfaces with big tech/external partners

 

[Regular Developer]

Anybody that builds software for a living knows the hardest part of the job is your backend dev giving you the wrong API documentation causing the the sprint being pushed back by 2 weeks and your Product Manger doesn't know up from down. AI not gonna fix that.

As a backend developer, I'm side eyeing you in offense!

But as I am a team lead now, the code isn't that crazy in most cases, the communication between teams and the different departments is the most important thing

Edit: fixed typos

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

This will f up a lot of junior / new developers.

Following llm prompts can lead down a dangerous and time sucking hole.


I still mainly use stack overflow and programming documentation.


Understanding good practices won’t come from llm.

Learning how to effectively read documentation of a new library is one the most underrated skills in software development. It saves you a lot of time. No LLM will ever be a substitute for that

 

[Mirin4rmfar]

The IT market is saturated like a mf. It's even difficult to get basic help desk jobs for some. Been looking at LinkedIn listings and the salaries being offered just to see what's out there and it's terrible. It feels like salaries have taken a nosedive.

They have, the salaries I was seeing during the pandemic for cyber security positions is just not the same

 

[Serious]

Learning how to effectively read documentation of a new library is one the most underrated skills in software development. It saves you a lot of time. No LLM will ever be a substitute for that

As my team migrated to GCP and we started using airflow…

Reading through googles and airflow’s documentation has been way more useful or clutch than letting the chatbots hallucinate.

 

[bnew]

As my team migrated to GCP and we started using airflow…

Reading through googles and airflow’s documentation has been way more useful or clutch than letting the chatbots hallucinate.

i'm curious do you just prompt it or paste a block of relevant text along with a question to parse the data?

 

[Dorian Breh]

Yes, absolutely. Coding is about the problem solving mindset, not the syntax.

from what Ive seen a lot of coding academies from the last five years were trying to train high school grads to pump out the poorly edited, unoptimized code that the AI word-guessers have made obsolete now. those courses werent really about problem solving...

 

[tay1]

They have, the salaries I was seeing during the pandemic for cyber security positions is just not the same

Feels like tech being a lifelong or safe profession to get in are long gone. Unless you're a ton of experience or one of the positions where you're very very hard to be replaced.