Cobalt Sire
All Star
Certain coli members ain't gonna like this one.
Tariq’s movie premiere in NYC. Line down the block FBA turned out to support!! #MicrophoneCheck
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He's not doing himself any favors with some of the antics and rhetoric that he promotes.
this is a
projection
Not at all, I've been on this forum since SoHo, and most off the time anything relating to the foundation era. Unless on its this bs. It's me @IllmaticDelta and a few others.
And as far as this tired debate goes. Both sides are lying, and it needs to stop.
Hip-hop has nothing to do with Jamaican music culture at all.
But Caribbean Americans have been a part of this genre from the foundation days 72- 77
Agreed
SupaDupaFresh
Superstar
No.
Jamaicans had a tremendous DJing and music production culture that far predates and played a huge role in the development of Hip Hop.
Dub was arguably the first genre of modern electronic music, and a precursor to Hip Hop (and pretty much all sample based electronic music). And it was started in the late 1960s. And like Hip Hop it was all about taking pre-existing recordings/beats and manipulating them into new ones. Except it predates Hip Hop by nearly a decade. On top of that you had the whole sound system battle and Dancehall culture of Jamaica through the 60s and 70s, which was where you got the whole communal culture of folks gathering and "toasting" each other over popular beats in competition.
Jamaicans and Caribbeans like Kool Herc brought all that sounds system, DJing, toasting, production, sampling, "dubbing" culture of Jamaican DJing with them to America, during the height of disco and funk music. Yes there were American DJs and DJing culture before Jamaicans arrived. This is not to undermine those legendary disco DJs who were spinning records and also there during the advent of Hip Hop. But sampling and electronic music production had an entire life of its owns in Jamaica that came together with Americans in New York and helped give us the genre. You'd have to be ignorant to not see the clear influence Jamaican music production and culture of the late 60s and 70s had on the origins of Hip Hop. I mean to this day there is such a healthy exchange between American Hip Hop and Jamaican Dancehall. The two genres constantly introducing and adapting new production ideas from each other.
But c00ns like Tariq just wanna pit black folks against each other, erase Caribbeans from Hip Hop history, and claim Hip Hop was created in Mississipi by Southern Baptist church accapella groups in the 1940s, just so he can brand and sell another low budget movie. Someone tell the clown the DVD market is dead.
By the end of the day, I can't get with this new age crab in a barrel shyt nikkas wanna call pro-black. Hip Hop is black music created by black people. Americans and Caribbeans alike. Only c00ns with hurt egos need this to be "American" so damn bad.
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
kool herc himself said it didnt come from jamaica.None of the early fba disco funk djs took anything from jamaican djs
none of that had anything to do with creating hip hop
@IllmaticDelta has already outlined this
nikkas like you are the worst type of c00n. Also the line was down the block dodo bird negro
SupaDupaFresh
Superstar
So where did Dub come from? Who gave these Jamaicans the idea of taking electronic production gear and then sampling, copying, experimenting with, and eventually "toasting" over beats and records as a genre of music, as early as the 1960s?
Jamaicans were early pioneers of electronic music in general, let alone Hip Hop. It's really sad this is an issue for hashtag house c00ns. The rest of us can just enjoy black culture.
CashmereThoughts
Veteran
Tariq be getting shyt done. Over and over again.
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
the rest of us can allow black american culture to be....................black american culture
everything that your saying depends on kool herc and coke la rock cosigning a jamaican origin
AND BOTH OF THEM DENY IT
Your just koonbuyae babbling at this point
define hater then pretend we don't have real gripes
let's be adults breh. it's weird when grown men just pick sides like you don't have a brain. this man was pretending that Africans were starting an ethnic war with ados online false flagging an incident as an attack. he does shyt like that casually then next thing he placates to c00ns and all is well... talking bout haters
i see what both his hands into.
The agenda that other groups want to claim something they didn't create.
I'm vigilant not mad. Till the man dies
Crazy because he's been up there before. Just went to YouTube and saw this on their channel.
Plankton
All Star
They had him up there before the diaspora war he started doing. You really think he's gonna go on NYC radio and talk that same shyt about Fat Joe without backlash? Talking like that among your following on Youtube and Facebook is one thing. Saying it on a bigger platform like TBC will bring attention to it differently. West Indians and Latinos are plenty in NYC and he would get labeled as not being an ally. Fat Joe is more popular then Tariq and Joe goes on The Breakfast Club like every year. We all know if Tariq goes on The Breakfast Club talking that shyt about Fat Joe, Joe is going to respond and Tariq will not win a diaspora war outside of his online following, especially when Joe is Hip Hop and Tariq isn't.