Tariq Nasheed on 'After Earth'

[The Message]

When in the context of black ppl in film - comedy, sports, bufoonery, violence, black pathology, etc are all themes that fit within a lot of white peoples image or perception of black ppl. Anything outside of that box is out of their comfort zone and foreign to them. It challenges thier beliefs. Movies that have charactes like the sapphire, the black stud, the magic negro, poor old negro adopted by the white family heavily attract white audiences.

So in your example, Coach Carter - misgudied inner city youths whipped into shape by their basketball coach? Oh yea....they'll see that in droves. I liked the movie, but it fits within the same themes I mentioned above. Films that disrupt (directly or indirectly) the fallacy of black inferiorty - white folks aint flocking to see it.

 

[Da Jungles]

And it's filled with the same Will Smith stans

*Looks at "Who Posted" in this thread and sees who's at the top of the list*



I agree

 

[Ayo]

Cacs dont like seeing nikkas in elevated positions. Whites loved eddie murphy and hated boomerang. Denzel no oscar for X but gave him one for training day

Your argument is all over the place...

You're pointing out Eddie Murphy's box office under performance but ignoring Denzel and Will Smith's box office dominance.

Which one is it going to be?

 

[Ayo]

So in your example, Coach Carter Films that disrupt (directly or indirectly) the fallacy of black inferiorty - white folks aint flocking to see it.

Name one movie that made money at the box office that didn't involve someone overcoming a difficult situation.

It feels like I'm arguing with a brick wall.

Sounds like you want to see a movie where nothing happens but black people walking around being successful

 

[The Message]

Name one movie that made money at the box office that didn't involve someone overcoming a difficult situation.

It feels like I'm arguing with a brick wall.

Sounds like you want to see a movie where nothing happens but black people walking around being successful

Just admit that you cant understand why white audiences dont drop money to see black films that arent confined the perceptions they hold of black ppl. Tell me why white people fawned over Precious and not Eve's Bayou? Both all black casts...

 

[jwinfield]

Cacs dont like seeing nikkas in elevated positions. Whites loved eddie murphy and hated boomerang. Denzel no oscar for X but gave him one for training day

Boomerang made 131M

 

[Won Won]

Whole lotta

going on in here

 

[Rapmastermind]

It's easy to say "After Earth" failed cause it was a bad movie or that M. Knight did it. It's harder to admit Whites in general DO NOT like seeing Positive Black images on the Big Screen. Most all the successful Black Movies had negative stereotypes going in it. Will played a Strong Black Father guiding his son. How many movies have we ever seen a Strong Black Man in the lead guiding his son? I also find it odd about all the talk about "Jaden can't act". You mean the same Jaden everyone was praising in "The Karate Kid" just 3 short years ago? Now he forgot how to act? Also the "Nepotism" thing is funny. I've never hear anything about Nepotism with White Actors and their parents. But let a Black Man put his Black Son on and it's a problem.

So I actually agree with some of Tariq's point. Hollywood is still very racist. People act like it's not. How many Black Men or Women are the LEAD in a Blockbuster This summer? I'll give 2 movies. "After Earth and Fast and Furious 6" that's it. Every other Blockbuster this summer stars a White person in the Lead, all the blacks are supporting characters. "After Earth" and "Fast 6" were the only "Black" movies that would be called Blockbusters being released this summer. There clearly was some "Undercover Racial Hate" with the attacks on "After Earth". You can read it in the reviews. Some people weren't even talking about the movie, they were talking about "Nepotism", what does that have to do with if the movie is good or not? Again Nepotism is only a problem if White people aren't doing it. How many White Kids are living off their parents money getting into good colleges and jobs? Way more than Blacks, I'll tell you that. If Angelia Jolie and Charlie Sheen can have long careers off their Father's success why can't Jaden?

 

[Ayo]

Just admit that you cant understand why white audiences dont drop money to see black films that arent confined the perceptions they hold of black ppl. Tell me why white people fawned over Precious and not Eve's Bayou? Both all black casts...

I can name a billion small budget white movies that dealt with real life social issues that made no money either. In fact, dozens of them are released every year.

What you need to ask yourself is why black people will come out to support Tyler Perry and his brand of c00nery to the tune of 55 million and then let Eve's Bayou flop with 15.

When the film has a universal message, like After Earth does, it will attract all audiences. Black and white. Unless it's a shytty movie.

But then again like the poster above said you keep moving the goal post. I can spin After Earth into a negative Black movie too. Since the kid is filled with fear and let his sister get attacked by a beast and his family kind of resents that. Not to mention it's depressing as shyt. Sure it's a reach. But no more a reach than your Coach Carter comparison.

 

[Ayo]

Boomerang made 131M

Exactly. It's one of the top grossing predominantly black cast movies of all time. Eddie Murphy is also in another one....Dreamgirls

 

[Ayo]

Will played a Strong Black Father guiding his son. How many movies have we ever seen a Strong Black Man in the lead guiding his son?

Where will I ever find something like that?

Worldwide: $307,077,295​

Will Smith in the lead role? Check
Strong father? Check
Guiding Son? Check
Positive father character? Check
Positive role mode? Check
Black guy outperforming white guys? Check
Black guy succeeding? Check

Let me guess though. The reason it did well is because Will Smith is homeless for a portion of the movie? White people love seeing that right?

 

[Rapmastermind]

Where will I ever find something like that?

Worldwide: $307,077,295​

Let me guess though. The reason it did well is because Will Smith is homeless for a portion of the movie? White people love seeing that right?

I was talking about summer Sci-fiction/Blockbusters, I should of been more specific. But my point still stands? HOW MANY? Cause I can name TONS of films showing Strong White fathers guiding their sons. Tariq already talked about "Pursuit of Happyness" Also that was based on a true story and was a drama. We are talking about Blockbusters and Sci Fi. Also this movie proves my point. Jaden got all types of awards for his performance for that film and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" as well as "The Karate Kid" but now out of nowhere "He can't act" now that he's transitioning from child star to teenage star and eventually to adult. "Pursuit" and "After Earth" are exceptions not the rule. A majority of the time Whites won't support Strong Black Characters on Film. "The Matrix Trilogy" is the only sci-fi franchise that showed Black People at a high rate in the future. Like Tariq said, most Sci-Fi Blacks are supporting characters or small characters.

 

[Stone Cold]

Where will I ever find something like that?

Worldwide: $307,077,295​

Will Smith in the lead role? Check
Strong father? Check
Guiding Son? Check
Positive father character? Check
Positive role mode? Check
Black guy outperforming white guys? Check
Black guy succeeding? Check

Let me guess though. The reason it did well is because Will Smith is homeless for a portion of the movie? White people love seeing that right?

thats when jaden was a cute cuddly kid tho

he attracting the young pawgs now

 

[Premeditated]

Where will I ever find something like that?

Worldwide: $307,077,295​

Will Smith in the lead role? Check
Strong father? Check
Guiding Son? Check
Positive father character? Check
Positive role mode? Check
Black guy outperforming white guys? Check
Black guy succeeding? Check

Let me guess though. The reason it did well is because Will Smith is homeless for a portion of the movie? White people love seeing that right?

damn, I was going to come in and derail this thread saying how much of the devil cacs are, but this post just destroyed the whole thread.

And I'll admit, After Earth looks like shyt. I wouldn't even take a p*ssy on a platter just to see it. Will needs to smarten up.

 

[Ayo]

I was talking about summer Sci-fiction/Blockbusters, I should of been more specific. Tariq already talked about "Pursuit of Happyness" Also that was based on a true story and was a drama. We are talking about Blockbusters and Sci Fi. Also this movie proves my point. Jaden got all types of awards for his performance for that film and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" as well as "The Karate Kid" but now out of nowhere "He can't act" now that he's transitioning from child star to teenage star and eventually to adult.

1. Newsflash: Jaden isn't the only person who can't/couldn't transition from child star to movie star. There are hundreds of kids who couldn't do the same. White kids. Kids who actually had to bust their asses and audition. Which means they had some sort of talent. Can't get work in Hollywood as teenagers.

2. You guys keep narrowing the playing field. Now it's "Sci-fi/Blockbusters". Seriously? That's a tough genre to crack to begin with. Fact is THIS sci-fi movie just wasn't any good. It would have sucked and flopped with Bradd Pitt and one of his white kids in the role. Or even one of his asian kids. Oh and Samuel L Jackson in Star Wars disagrees with your Matrix assessment you tacked on at the end.

3. Ya'll nikkas are going to move around and pivot and change argument points and do whatever else it takes to fit your argument. Everything I post is met with a moving of the goal post.

Done arguing about this. Garbage movie got the fate it deserved. Flop status. The international reviews are coming in and they are all just as bad.

Update: Movie is on track to lose "tens of millions of dollars." Blame it on racism http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/will-smiths-earth-apocalypse-who-562668