Tariq & Akademiks Arguing Over Origins of Hip Hop

[O.G.B]

Because I know so many of you only know racist wite people
that is who you fukk
are your parents and siblings
live with and around
share the same dirty nasty mindsets
never left your maga shyt hole and depend on the internet to teach you about "immigrants"
jealous and badmind wite mind dutty stinking dirt road shyt
yes I know

and most importantly
so many of you hate those on the east coast
as if blk americans on the east coast been contaminated by those immigrants
damn crackah mind

like when your wite family go off to college and come back to the maga town enlightened
yes I know

this internet online gang thing you got going is ALL YOU GOT
bored pityful life
it is sad actually

 

[Uncouth Savage]

Prove me wrong....
are you one of those people who do not know any blk immigrants?
yet have the most to say

for example if I say go outside or call a jamaican and ask them if akademiks a yaadman
that should have been easy
very very easy

that is why I am sure of certain things

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I know that....
just grew up seeing the exact same pose...
mostly only done by the real bad boys....
arms folded, one foot out...
wondered its relation
bless up

Oh, you're talking about the "Bboy stance". Bboys did that pose as a "freeze" but street "bad boys" also did it. It was all basically part of the urban cool aesthetic of the time.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

Oh, you're talking about the "Bboy stance". Bboys did that pose as a "freeze" but street "bad boys" also did it. It was all basically part of the urban cool aesthetic of the time.

it is the main issue I am having with this whole thing....
for example bounty killer the dancehall artist...
his whole "yooooooooo" "Yalllloooowwwwwww" "wadddddddupppp"
that is all ny brooklyn talk....

the word "fukkry"....
that is a word I grew up hearing it used hundreds of times a day.....

there are tons of bahamaian, trini, guyanese, st kitts, dominican etc etc folks who are just new yorkers
yet they played a huge part
it was a united effort

and yet did not JUST HAPPEN OVER NIGHT
was a continuation of music and styles MAINLY "ADOS" that formed hip hop

some people do not know their fathers, grand fathers etc etc etc
me and codekansas could be distant cousins
as anybody here

you could be related to kool herc

the division I do not like
to be a scientist or anything....you learn from others before you
same with music

 

[Kings County]

why this nikka got yall thinking yall all fba
most blacks came on ships and are African decedents

 

[TripleAgent]

They’re not West Indian, Melle Mel said his family came from South Carolina!

That list has a lot wrong. I told that poster it was wrong years ago, but he keeps posting it

nikka u literally just made that up
melle mel family is from south carolina

we have the same last name and both our paternal lineages stem back to charlestown sc

I knew I smelled bullshyt

 

[richaveli83]

Look at his username. He's allowed to talk shyt. Meanwhile people like me have to hold our tongues or we get banned for "race baiting"

Stop being a drama queen

You lucky you not banned. You’ve made a bunch of unprovoked offensive posts

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Lmaooooooooo

 

[MJ Truth]

Also why is a person not from the east coast giving his opinion. Don’t understand how someone from the other side of this country is giving akademiks a man from NJ a hip hop history lesson on a region that he’s from.

Imagine a FBA New Yorker going to Califnornia and giving some cali nikka G funk lessons and saying he can do that cause the Cali nikka is Belizean…

This logic makes little sense when you consider their age differential.

 

[Biscayne]

As I suspected.....
a lot of this is related to being anti east coast
I have seen many of these threads

it is not that there is something personal against Kool Herc...
just that he an immigrant...
much as with Fat Joe....
just that he hispanic....

stinks of insecurity to me

You keep trying to use politics and some sort of “anti Eastcoast” persecution complex to ignore the historic origins of hip hop. As if black Americans didn’t make up the predominant demographic of many of these NY neighborhoods that Kool Herc used to frequent and do his parties at. Your ploy isn’t gonna work here buddy.

Even in the last post you brought up MAGA as some sort of political liberal dog whistle. Look breh, black Americans are the blueprint for hip hop culture. If you wanna keep it NY and feel like we’re being anti Eastcoast, then I’ll oblige you and say NY black Americans started hip hop. Either way, it was started by black Americans. You’re not going to use the NY origins of hip hop to usurp black American forefathers from their rightful place.

 

[Biscayne]

he does no music on where he from
talks nothing about the place
does not speak patois
is a dj and only does hip hop

at what point does he become blk american?
20, 30, 40 years or never?

as Kool Herc
who was all the way into blk american culture

whats your point really?
just making sure it is not sounding like some maga shyt

Becaus too many ppl will use Hercs birthplace as a claimant for Jamaicans creation of hip hop. How do you not see how nefarious that is?

 

[DonB90]

You can’t call something rap before the term hip hop/rap was invented.

Miss me with that BS.

People like tariq can’t accept the fact that not everything was started by people like him lmao

It was literally called rap black people been using the terminology "let me rap which ya bout something" for centuries. James Brown lyrics on the Big Payback(the first popular rap song)


I can do wheelin', I can do dealin' (yes you can!)
But I don't do no damn squealin'
I can dig rappin', I'm ready! I can dig scrappin'
But I can't dig that backstabbin' (oh no!)
-1973


I know you grew up in a household that played Kompa and Celine Dion and shyt but yes Black Americans most definitely created everything in hip hop/rap.

 

[Biscayne]

This logic makes little sense when you consider their age differential.

Right! Ak is a millennial born in Jamaica. Even he said he didn’t understand a lot of black American culture when he first landed here. In this instance, Tariq would be much more of an authoritarian on hip hop since he was actually alive during its early days.

 

[Biscayne]

It was literally called rap black people been using the terminology "let me rap which ya bout something" for centuries. James Brown lyrics on the Big Payback(the first popular rap song)


I can do wheelin', I can do dealin' (yes you can!)
But I don't do no damn squealin'
I can dig rappin', I'm ready! I can dig scrappin'
But I can't dig that backstabbin' (oh no!)
-1973


I know you grew up in a household that played Kompa and Celine Dion and shyt but yes Black Americans most definitely created everything in hip hop/rap.

The stylistic origins are so obvious.

 

[Still Benefited]

cacs love bringing this shyt into the "birth of hip hop" conversation. This aint no damn rap song. It's a poem set to weird music.

Sounds like a rap to me. Coli posters told me if a black person does it first,it makes the music a black genre. So I guess hiphop is a white genre now