SUPERMAN by James Gunn (Coming 2025)

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Superman and batman were both interesting.

The problem was that it was too story driven and the story itself was chopped and screwed which made absolutely no sense.

There were also not enough action sequences in comparison to any marvel film.

MoS was written succinctly and cohesive then BvS sped up the story with terrible editing and overpaced storytelling killing the entire momentum.
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I don't expect that everyone will like this but James Gunn is a comic head... it will absolutely be very close to source materials
Right, if you a comic head, as a few claimed in this thread. You should at least have faith in Gunn in that regard.
Then you gotta look at how he made the d/z level characters in GotG superstars. He aint had too many panned movies/shows in a minute either.
 

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PPL GOTTA STOP SAYING
"HE MADE PPL CARE ABOUT GOTG"

ITS ACTUALLY EASIER TO TAKE
SOME UNKNOWNS AND MOLD THEM
IN YOUR IMAGE.
YOU HAVE A BLANK CANVAS
AND FREE REIGN TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT
VS
DOING A BATMAN/SUPERMAN/SPIDEY MOVIE.

IF YOU fukk UP ONE OF
THE LEGACY IPS YOURE GONNA GET DESTROYED.

THATS WHY THE MCU WORKED
SO WELL IN GENERAL.

THEY DIDNT HAVE THE RIGHTS
TO THE A LISTERS SO THEY WERE
ABLE TO TAKE THE B/C LISTERS
AND DO WHAT THEY WANTED WITH
NO RESTRICTIONS NOR EXPECTATIONS.

ONCE MCU BECAME THE BIGGEST
THING EVER THE PRESSURE
AND EXPECTATIONS CHANGED AND THEYVE
BEEN MID TO TRASH EVER SINCE.
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PPL GOTTA STOP SAYING
"HE MADE PPL CARE ABOUT GOTG"

ITS ACTUALLY EASIER TO TAKE
SOME UNKNOWNS AND MOLD THEM
IN YOUR IMAGE.
YOU HAVE A BLANK CANVAS
AND FREE REIGN TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT


So are the GotG characters not faithful to the source material?(legit question, im not a comic book head)

Also just because it's a "blank canvas" doesnt mean him making GotG as big as it is shouldnt count.
 

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So are the GotG characters not faithful to the source material?(legit question, im not a comic book head)

Also just because it's a "blank canvas" doesnt mean him making GotG as big as it is shouldnt count.

YOURE MISSING THE POINT
WHICH IS STOP COMPARING
THE GOTG TO MUTHAfukkING SUPERMAN
COMPARE THEM TO HIS SUICIDE SQUAD MOVIE

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So are the GotG characters not faithful to the source material?(legit question, im not a comic book head)

Also just because it's a "blank canvas" doesnt mean him making GotG as big as it is shouldnt count.
Gunn’s GOTG isn’t 100% faithful to the comics. But your point still stands, he made non mainstream characters pop. He’d shown that he can write characters. That audiences could actually give af about. More people cared about a space otter dying. Than Cavill’s Superman dying lol.
 
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Group or solo film, just pointing out that the entire cast of his movies tend to be goofy. not just the main character.
This Superman film, is going to have superman being funny, going to Lois Lane telling jokes, The villain will probably clown superman's uniform at some point, Superman's parents will be belly laughing the entire movie. Thats how james gunn works, wasn't anybody playing it straight in Suicide Squad or Peacemaker.
Hardcourt, Flagg, Waller, Murn, and Bloodsport were all no nonsense straight men. I think you’re mistaking situational comedy for comedic jokes.

Gunn develops his characters and their dynamics with comedy. Jimmy Olsen is supposed to a fun character. Lois and Clark should be laughing and cracking jokes together. That’s how you show likeable characters people want to pay money for. They aren’t going to be stoned faced talking about the beauty of 20th century Impressionism and Bergman films.

Superman isn’t going to call Jimmy a butt baby like Peacemaker.
 

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Hardcourt, Waller, Murn, and Bloodsport were all no nonsense straight men. I think your mistaking situational comedy for comedic jokes.

Gunn develops his characters and their dynamics with comedy. Jimmy Olsen is supposed to a fun character. Lois and Clark should be laughing and cracking jokes together. That’s how you show likeable characters people want to pay money for. They aren’t going to be stoned faced talking about the beauty of 20th century Impressionism and Bergman films.

Superman isn’t going to call Jimmy a butt baby like Peacemaker.
Bloodsport screaming like lil girl every time he sees a rat is not situational humor.
Every episode of Peacemaker opened with Hardcourt and Murn doing a dance routine, and they had several goofy moments in the show despite being the straight man
Waller literally got knocked out for comedic purposes by a no named agent just for laughs. despite supposedly being someone you can't cross without dying.
They all had plenty of nonsense.

Wolverine in deadpool is a better example of a character still playing it straight in spite of the goofiness around him. He never sang or danced(despite the actor loving those two activities in real life :wrist:), never had to break character in service of a punchline and doesn't ignore the ridiculous of the goofy shyt that he does witness as if it is normal.
 

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Bloodsport screaming like lil girl every time he sees a rat is not situational humor.
Every episode of Peacemaker opened with Hardcourt and Murn doing a dance routine, and they had several goofy moments in the show despite being the straight man
Waller literally got knocked out for comedic purposes by a no named agent just for laughs. despite supposedly being someone you can't cross without dying.
They all had plenty of nonsense.

Wolverine in deadpool is a better example of a character still playing it straight in spite of the goofiness around him. He never sang or danced(despite the actor loving those two activities in real life :wrist:), never had to break character in service of a punchline and doesn't ignore the ridiculous of the goofy shyt that he does witness as if it is normal.
You are counting the opening credits as a character moment?

So then are you counting Wolverine’s skeleton’s jaw falling off as a character comedy moment?

What about your straight man Wolverine passing out from drinking as a comedic beat? That’s not comedy?


You’re describing situational comedy. Straight men whole purpose is to point out how ridiculous the funny situation is. Dogpool licking Deadpool’s face is digusting. Wolverine’s funny moment is his reaction.
 

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You are counting the opening credits as a character moment?

So then are you counting Wolverine’s skeleton’s jaw falling off as a character comedy moment?

What about your straight man Wolverine passing out from drinking as a comedic beat? That’s not comedy?


You’re describing situational comedy. Straight men whole purpose is to point out how ridiculous the funny situation is. Dogpool licking Deadpool’s face is digusting. Wolverine’s funny moment is his reaction.
Yeah i count the opening credits. I don't really see wolverine drinking himself under the table as uncharacteristic or comedic. he just an alcoholic
and deadpool playing with wolverine bones was more a moment i attribute to deadpool not wolverine. If he was ragdolling hugh jackman than yes i would agree.

However you want yo label it situational or something else, you still have to admit that in deadpool, deadpool carries the humor. In Jame Gunn movies everybody gets their moment to be the joker. To me that's comedy by committee. Comic Relief used to just be one persons job, not everyones. Even having 2 or 3 comedic characters is too many imo.

and the example i listed where just the thing that immediately came to mind if i go back and watch peacemaker i will find more goofy shyt from everybody.
 
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