fukkyalifestyle
Superstar
I really doubt the joker is robin so that means in this universe there is no joker? that dont make no sense
Not saying I buy this theory but it could be that Jason was the second Joker which would explain his unconventional look.
So the first Joker beats Jason Todd almost to death and then brainwashes him; OG Joker dies in battle with Batman; Jason Todd takes on the mantle of The Joker and becomes Batman's new arch-nemesis.
Norrin Radd
To me, my board!
I hope that theory proves true because it would be flat out amazing.
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
no need for all of that. Keep it straightforward.
Agree, but it would be a fresh and interesting take on the bats/joker relationship.
I wouldn't mind seeing it tbh
Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
So "Todd Joker" happens before Harleen becomes Harley Quinn?
Nah, not sure thats a good idea.
I do like that the Thomas Wayne death scene for BvS has an alternate where
him and his wife live and it sets up a Flashpoint Paradox. The wife becomes the new Joker. Have to wait a few years for when the Flash movies take off..
World'sFinest
Purebred Zulu
Theory sounds like a mad reach brehs
King Koopa
All Star
A fan theory that has persisted for some time on the internet has been given new life with the release of new trailers for both Batman v. Superman and Suicide Squad. It centers around the controversial new Joker, played by Jared Leto, and actually explains a lot about why this version of the character is so different than what we've seen before.
According to Jason-G169 over on Reddit, our new Joker is none other than Jason Todd. In case you're not familiar with the character, Jason was Batman's rash, foolhardy sidekick that took over the mantle of Robin after dikk Grayson left the Batcave to become Nightwing.
Famously, it did not end well for this new Robin.
In the comics, the Joker murders Jason Todd (at the behest of a twisted fan vote), and Batman subsequently spent years mourning over his loss and his failure as a guardian and father figure. When Jason Todd came back decades later, because it's comic books, he looked very different. And somehow, still familiar...
In the Batman comic classic The Killing Joke, we find out that the Joker was tricked into becoming the Z-list villain the Red Hood, right before he fell into the vat of acid that transformed him into the Clown Prince of Crime. Though the Joker discarded that moniker, Jason took up the title of Red Hood after his own resurrection. Point being, the fan theory about Jared Leto's Joker has precedence, because Jason Todd has a built-in history of taking the Joker's identity.
The Joker being a former Robin gives us a whole new dynamic with the archrivals' relationship. As mentioned earlier, it would also give us a reasonable explanation as to why Leto's Joker looks like a god damned juggalo.
The thought of the kind of Joker we're normally familiar with, sitting down in a tattoo parlor for hours, days on end to get all that ink is frankly a little bit laughable. But what if each tattoo wasn't for the Joker, but for Batman? Sure, the J on his cheek could stand for "Joker," if this guy is super into personal branding, but what if it's a reminder that he's stillJason? An even more blatant message is scrawled on his right arm, where we can see a few feathers of what is presumably a tattoo of a bird -- probably a robin. You could extrapolate meaning from every tattoo; does the skull in a jester hat make sense if Joker ripped it off of a poison POG from the 90s, or might it represent Jason Todd's "death" and rebirth into the maniacal jester as shown in Suicide Squad?
If we've learned anything from years of movies, comics and video games, it's that you shouldn't put anything past the Joker when it comes to messing with Batman.
This quick shot in the Batman v. Superman trailer shows us what appears to be the Joker's defacement of a Robin statue: "The Joke's on you BATMAN." What's the joke here? Could it be that Batman's greatest ally turned into his greatest enemy, driven crazy by the Dark Knight's failure to save his sidekick from the original Joker? It might make sense, given what we see Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne reading on his paper:
This "new" Joker seems to know about Bruce Wayne's past. The family in this case could refer to a lot of things, from the murders of Thomas and Martha Wayne, to the untimely "death" of Jason Todd, to this alleged HUGE LEAKED SPOILER from Batman v. Superman. Hell, the message directly recalls the comic storyline A Death in the Family, the very same arc in which Jason Todd dies.
Too much reaching. Not a horrible idea, but let's just keep this as regular Joker. The tats don't bother me, though I could def see this Joker as a new Joker in the Batman Beyond universe.I'd rather have Red Hood make an appearance.
O.T.I.S.
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I AM WARHOL
Veteran
It would be a reach to even call that theory paper thin.
Norrin Radd
To me, my board!
Reads like fan fiction amiright?
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Please keep it fukking simple 
I'm 1000% fine with this Batman taking place AFTER Jason but don't make The Joker Jason fukking Todd it's stupid.
The Joker is the Joker. Stop cheapening the character by adding all these bells and whistles.
I'm 1000% fine with this Batman taking place AFTER Jason but don't make The Joker Jason fukking Todd it's stupid.
The Joker is the Joker. Stop cheapening the character by adding all these bells and whistles.
Kang Deezy
Overall Nice Guy
It would have been a brilliant way to keep the joker in the dark knight Christopher Nolan movies though
It's pretty bold, but they're being bold with this joker so nothing would surprise me
It's pretty bold, but they're being bold with this joker so nothing would surprise me
Airtrack360
All Star
Reads like fan fiction amiright?
As crazy as the joker is, he does things with a underlying purpose. Joker has been known to torture people but he doesn't torture just for the sake of torturing.
People read the trailer like everything is spelt out when you know thats not how the movie is going to be played out.
Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
Sound like a few Coli brehs.
This look like some hood shyt. Got meth hoes in it and everything
Jai Courtney has no charisma that it got Harley Quinn asking "huh"
Even Heath Ledgers Joker would be like "Dude you need to lay off that shyt"
This look like some hood shyt. Got meth hoes in it and everything
Jai Courtney has no charisma that it got Harley Quinn asking "huh"
Even Heath Ledgers Joker would be like "Dude you need to lay off that shyt"