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No doubt,I dont have a problem with people not being convinced,its the people who want to do the condemning I got a problem with:martin:.

Art Barr reaching with Andrew Carnegie references,when he could easily use Master P:pachaha:

He was on this turn over a new leaf of positivity,remorseful of his past ways when he was attempting to make a transisition...even went so far as to condemn negative aspects of hiphop....and we all know how that eventually turned out.

was Master P genuine in the moment?who knows.....I think the potential influence Jayz could have on others makes this worth giving him a chance to try to make this change as a elder and succeed,OR fail like P did when it came to keeping his message consistent.

but I think Jay is one of the most consistent in hiphop when it comes to his overall message,as well as his transistion from the streets to the fame,and his growth as a man:mjcry:

but at the end of the day,never count on a hustler to not hustle you:sas1:,we all will be watching Jay because we have no choice....and we should hold him accountable if he were to do anything to embarrass himself or especially us,its that simple.

I dont appreciate the idea Art Barr never wants to allow for anybody to change,no matter what course they life may take:mjlol:



you soft as that thang for this bullshyt pandering ass post you just made.



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who's a culture thief - if he is apart of the culture? And using what others tried to portray us as - against them to reclaim and empower the images for better?

Use your brain dude.


you have yet to dispute or know any actual facts about this individual you are blindly defending.
then, you trying to dispute facts and have the nerve to say use my brain.

why don't you use your smart phone.
since you fail to use your brain and look the shyt up.


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No doubt,I dont have a problem with people not being convinced,its the people who want to do the condemning I got a problem with:martin:.

Art Barr reaching with Andrew Carnegie references,when he could easily use Master P:pachaha:

He was on this turn over a new leaf of positivity,remorseful of his past ways when he was attempting to make a transisition...even went so far as to condemn negative aspects of hiphop....and we all know how that eventually turned out.

was Master P genuine in the moment?who knows.....I think the potential influence Jayz could have on others makes this worth giving him a chance to try to make this change as a elder and succeed,OR fail like P did when it came to keeping his message consistent.

but I think Jay is one of the most consistent in hiphop when it comes to his overall message,as well as his transistion from the streets to the fame,and his growth as a man:mjcry:

but at the end of the day,never count on a hustler to not hustle you:sas1:,we all will be watching Jay because we have no choice....and we should hold him accountable if he were to do anything to embarrass himself or especially us,its that simple.

I dont appreciate the idea Art Barr never wants to allow for anybody to change,no matter what course they life may take:mjlol:

Respect....its just like the T.I shyt for me....I feel he dropped a conscious album to capitalize off the social climate....i never bought that shyt and just by watching how he moved I felt like he was faking the funk, if it was real he would've been left outta Antman 2 with the quickness ....i love Jay z and I hope he's genuine but it takes more to convince me...you can't spit black empowerment then be extra friendly with these white folks...its a conflict of interest...Colin kaepernick stay pissing these people off...got kicked out the league and everything and he clearly doesn't give a fukk...his name ain't in the news and he still kicking that black power vibe....still fighting the good fight and I support him for that, to the point I'm not supporting the NFL in any shape or form.... Jay tho...these cacs ain't batting a eyelash at his "wokeness"...and that sets my radar off....
 

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you have yet to dispute or know any actual facts about this individual you are blindly defending.
then, you trying to dispute facts and have the nerve to say use my brain.

why don't you use your smart phone.
since you fail to use your brain and look the shyt up.


art barr

LOL. really and you have?

I live it. You? I own a business for over 10+ years and I employ and work with Black people. I come from a family that has done the same for over 40+ years. I did a lot of stupid ish in the beginning that I learned from - as Jay did. So, I understand the mend he is trying to make with himself and the people he may have lead the wrong way. That shyt is respectable - no matter what you think.

Plus, my hobby and passion is the history of my people and their struggle in America. Slavery, The Civil War, Reconstruction, Black Codes, Jim Crow, etc - learning, researching and teaching others about it who don't know enough and how it affects us to this day - is something I love to do.

I understand his message. I understand what he is doing. So, yeah... miss me with that,

You drop resources for ANYTHING you have stated and I'll do the same - if needed.
 

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When you start a business and you are young - you don't know any better. He was straight from the streets - no guidance. He was out for self - not community or even on race or racism.

And people forget - when most of us are young - we are not thinking about White supremacy or fighting the system. It's rare - some do - but not most. It's about making money and getting in a position of taking care of yourself.

This' fighting White supremacy thing has become a popular term amongst Black men over the last 3-4 years - due to the Internet and social media. Sadly, a lot of y'all say the phrase and don't really understand what it means and how to fight it.

You can't fault Jay-Z or try to place that on him as a young man thrown into the industry who reached a level of success that most would not be prepared for. You can't also fault him for being about self - when others in the industry were doing the same.

Trending doesn't take away from his message or if it's genuine. It's a the way information is spread and talked about in this day and age - he can't help that either. It does show it's affect on people tho.

I disagree on challenging and the current social climate.

I could talk for days on slavery and it's affects in all way - but your right - but this can't be compared in that ways - but it's way different. Also, because many Black people are benefitting - you may not see it but they are - plus a message is being sent and being discussed amongst us for empowerment. If you can't see that - I don't know what to say.

You know what? You are absolutely right....salute to you for having a grown up discussion with me that didnt devolve into name calling...I still don't agree but I see where you're coming from...maybe I'm just bitter, from being let down from so called conscious brothers and sisters....im praying for the best from Jay...but honestly I expect the worst...i guess we'll see....




.....but if I'm right you can expect a whole Lotta "I told you so's"....


....cause I'm petty....:troll:
 

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You know what? You are absolutely right....salute to you for having a grown up discussion with me that didnt devolve into name calling...I still don't agree but I see where you're coming from...maybe I'm just bitter, from being let down from so called conscious brothers and sisters....im praying for the best from Jay...but honestly I expect the worst...i guess we'll see....




.....but if I'm right you can expect a whole Lotta "I told you so's"....


....cause I'm petty....:troll:

First thing: stop following them and listening to them. What has come from doing so?

And ditto. I love it when we can debate and have a discussion and be respectful. :smile:
 

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First thing: stop following them and listening to them. What has come from doing so?

And ditto. I love it when we can debate and have a discussion and be respectful. :smile:

I don't follow anyone but I'll lend a ear if I like what's being said....

Then I'ma do my due diligence and research and if it doesn't add up...
:stopitslime:

....and nowadays far too many "pimps" are on this conscious wave....we are being exploited because of our desire for liberation and hope....we as a people are very impressionable....and it takes little effort to impress us....

...i.e. Jay spits a watered down version of what dead Prez been spitting since day one and everyone is like:ohhh:

...whats crazy is we influence the world...in ancient times our systems of civilation and government is what the system of white supremacy was built on....
Now we only dictate what is cool...from fashion to music and what have you...and thats because we don't realize our power....for 400 years we were conditioned and trained to be helpless...

.....the last thing white supremacy want to see is a black person spit (and do) some truly revolutionary shyt....



.....ask Fred Hampton....




......oh, wait....
 

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PEople in here happy as fukk at jays new direction.

He obv has nothing else to rap about so hes going to all he has left. It woulda worked like nas untitled album but nas had those type of records his whole career

Jay had a career worth of "money cash hoes" records with bitten insight, now hes telling people to get credit like jews and dont do what he did after 20 years of promoting ignorance.

"Big pimping spending gs" to "get credit dont make it rain in the club".

Ive noticed jay been hopping on trends like a motherfukker since american gangster. This just his next phase of fake raps.
 

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LOL. really and you have?

I live it. You? I own a business for over 10+ years and I employ and work with Black people. I come from a family that has done the same for over 40+ years. I did a lot of stupid ish in the beginning that I learned from - as Jay did. So, I understand the mend he is trying to make with himself and the people he may have lead the wrong way. That shyt is respectable - no matter what you think.

Plus, my hobby and passion is the history of my people and their struggle in America. Slavery, The Civil War, Reconstruction, Black Codes, Jim Crow, etc - learning, researching and teaching others about it who don't know enough and how it affects us to this day - is something I love to do.

I understand his message. I understand what he is doing. So, yeah... miss me with that,

You drop resources for ANYTHING you have stated and I'll do the same - if needed.


you still have yet to talk about hiphop and the actual culture of hiphop.
this is all deflection and not about jayz.
this is not yours personal case study and how you self equated to giving out a pass to jay's pander.
in that it has nuffin about hiphop or understanding hiphop cultur and is a deflection based self equated rant that has nuffin to do with hiphop as a culture.

if it does you failed to elaborate how they are intertwined.
in the same manner I asked you to explain how you constructed this pass system of yours that is predicated on giving culture thieves passes.


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I used to think it was super stupid how they bought those art pieces.

Now I learned. Thank you, Camel. :wow:
 

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PEople in here happy as fukk at jays new direction.

He obv has nothing else to rap about so hes going to all he has left. It woulda worked like nas untitled album but nas had those type of records his whole career

Jay had a career worth of "money cash hoes" records with bitten insight, now hes telling people to get credit like jews and dont do what he did after 20 years of promoting ignorance.

"Big pimping spending gs" to "get credit dont make it rain in the club".

Ive noticed jay been hopping on trends like a motherfukker since american gangster. This just his next phase of fake raps.
I think he just grew up. He has a wife and kids now. He's can't possibly be talking about strip clubs and poverty anymore. He's not a dope dealer, he doesn't go to strip clubs, and he's not poor. Lets be honest, he's talking about what he should be talking about right now.

Someone tells you not to waste money and invest, you call them a c00n who is mocking you? If this is the case, this tribe is done. Throw in the towel and call it quits.
 

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I think he just grew up. He has a wife and kids now. He's can't possibly be talking about strip clubs and poverty anymore. He's not a dope dealer, he doesn't go to strip clubs, and he's not poor. Lets be honest, he's talking about what he should be talking about right now.

Someone tells you not to waste money and invest, you call them a c00n who is mocking you? If this is the case, this tribe is done. Throw in the towel and call it quits.
Yea its just hard to take jay z serious. Dude was never that typa artist to me.
 

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PEople in here happy as fukk at jays new direction.

He obv has nothing else to rap about so hes going to all he has left. It woulda worked like nas untitled album but nas had those type of records his whole career

Jay had a career worth of "money cash hoes" records with bitten insight, now hes telling people to get credit like jews and dont do what he did after 20 years of promoting ignorance.

"Big pimping spending gs" to "get credit dont make it rain in the club".

Ive noticed jay been hopping on trends like a motherfukker since american gangster. This just his next phase of fake raps.
:wow:these are facts





For 20 years jay told me to make it rain, now he telling me to invest..i spent it all jay:damn:
 

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You know what? You are absolutely right....salute to you for having a grown up discussion with me that didnt devolve into name calling...I still don't agree but I see where you're coming from...maybe I'm just bitter, from being let down from so called conscious brothers and sisters....im praying for the best from Jay...but honestly I expect the worst...i guess we'll see....




.....but if I'm right you can expect a whole Lotta "I told you so's"....


....cause I'm petty....:troll:
:heh: at whining about people name calling you....................then admitting that you're bitter and petty. If cats would've described you as being bitter and petty before you admitted it, you would've ran that "you calling me names over my opinion" shyt. Nah, it's just obvious that you're being bitter and petty without your confession. Everything you've said is bullshyt:russ:
:wow:these are facts





For 20 years jay told me to make it rain, now he telling me to invest..i spent it all jay:damn:
You cats are telling blatant lies just to hate on the low. Cowards in every aspect.
 

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Ayo,...
so, this sellout nikka gets to use all the sellout jiggaboo time imagery and throw he was a sellout in your face.
simply cause he soul'd out to make all his money.
Then try to make it like it was a great business decision.
while him and the clown who ruined everything about rap gloat about it on record and in Forbes.
yet nikkaz is ignoring this.


y'all some hoes for that.



art barr
I respect ya bro but I think you reaching too much. I know this..the album he's not taking one cent. There's more. Shawn is finally making a statement. I think you're off your game and you weren't included and salty. You're emotional now. You know that's not how to play this game.
 
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