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tyler the creator is a known troll and c00n,dont compare him with Jay-Z:scust:
I feel you....its just that I'm not convinced....by Jay, that is....i look at Colin kaepernick and how things turned out for him and he still standing tall....to the point I'm like fukk the NFL, for real...white folks is comfy with jay...this album won't change that...they won't try to ruin him....they getting money off him and he's not really challenging the system of white supremacy....

guess yall are still naive enough to think only the nikkas who was wearing kufis since the beggining of rap are the genuine.

and Art we aint forget,you use to tell us how genuine Bambatta and KRS was:scust:

so far you deep in the red when it comes to being the authority on who black folks should believe are authentic:martin:..."Trust me Bambatta a real one yall:whoa:"

Jayz using his influence for good should never be downplayed or questioned. Are you saying once you usher in one wave you shouldnt be allowed to change as you grow older?you are basically downplaying the importance of oldheads and og's in the rap game....he's supposed to do dumb shyt early in his career and then tell nikkas where he went wrong....problem is some of yall are so use to olheads being irrelevent and voiceless,youve never seen this before and cant proccess it:wow:
 

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I feel you....its just that I'm not convinced....by Jay, that is....i look at Colin kaepernick and how things turned out for him and he still standing tall....to the point I'm like fukk the NFL, for real...white folks is comfy with jay...this album won't change that...they won't try to ruin him....they getting money off him and he's not really challenging the system of white supremacy....
 

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I feel you....its just that I'm not convinced....by Jay, that is....i look at Colin kaepernick and how things turned out for him and he still standing tall....to the point I'm like fukk the NFL, for real...white folks is comfy with jay...this album won't change that...they won't try to ruin him....they getting money off him and he's not really challenging the system of white supremacy....


He really is and he is making money off them while he is doing it.

There are many ways of challenging White supremacy. Just like it was different ways the enslaved resisted slavery in addition to revolting and running away aka becoming a "maroon." Challenging and resisting the system is done by everyday actions, behaviors and spreading of knowledge and self-love to others in your community as well.

Jay-Z is delivering a message to our community that could spark a change or exposing someone to another way to come up. No matter how small that message is.

It's many more ways Jay-Z has challenged White supremacy for years - but he is a business man - and you have to play and work with those you are challenging as well.
 

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when did i not hold krs and bambaata accountable, just like everyone else, tho.

if you violate you getting what you always got and that was the mark on ya culture card and how you would be judged.

how you guys try to deflect on this is.
is the same braintrust the government used as a science to put us where we are right now.

so, keep playing oblivious.
also,..i have seen this before and it was done by carnegie.

so please stop.
you just expose why you always self expose you don't know the culture of hiphop.
you just a pac stan refugee who been lost, my nikka.

so kill your whole failed attempt to attack me cause i been calling out your lack of culture face ass since you fell through, breh.


you not fooling nobody,..nobody believes you around here like that.



art barr

nikkaz be having their little personal attacks, trying to deflect they are toys and posers and still showcase they are toys and posers.

i don't do it to you, i see you doing it to yourself.
then, clown you for how you did it to yourself.


I wonder how many kids got touched before you decided to hold them accountable:martin:

Meanwhile I was telling you the truth about KRS being a phony the whole time and did you listen?

you dont have any ground to stand on with Jay-Z because he's always been honest about who he was and why he makes the moves he makes.....if you such a student of the culture how have you missed Jay-Zs story and transition:scust:? Youve been too busy stuck on chapter one you missed the rest breh.

you comparing a Jayz who surrounded himself with hustlers,to a Jay-Z who has rubbed shoulders with Obama,rubbed shoulders with other billionair philanthropist,been called to task by the great Harry Belafonte and the son of Fred Hampton:wow:



your weakness in the way the way that you view the culture is that you view it under a microscope....all that means is that your view of this shyt is narrow,nikkas like you stuck staring at one tiny atom....while nikkas like me and Jay see the whoooooole picture,catch up my nikka:sas1:
 

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I wonder how many kids got touched before you decided to hold them accountable:martin:

Meanwhile I was telling you the truth about KRS being a phony the whole time and did you listen?

you dont have any ground to stand on with Jay-Z because he's always been honest about who he was and why he makes the moves he makes.....if you such a student of the culture how have you missed Jay-Zs story and transition:scust:? Youve been too busy stuck on chapter one you missed the rest breh.

you comparing a Jayz who surrounded himself with hustlers,to a Jay-Z who has rubbed shoulders with Obama,rubbed shoulders with other billionair philanthropist,been called to task by the great Harry Belafonte and the son of Fred Hampton:wow:



your weakness in the way the way that you view the culture is that you view it under a microscope....all that means is that your view of this shyt is narrow,nikkas like you stuck staring at one tiny atom....while nikkas like me and Jay see the whoooooole picture,catch up my nikka:sas1:


you ain't never said a fact about krs before bambaata, nikka.
stop trying to write some grandiose statement like you in the know culturally.
you just a fukk'n pac clone war stan, who won't read the transcripts to find out how and why he got shot for real.
all because you know the truth is in there.

just stop.
you nikkaz keep praising ya carnegie alikes.


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I feel you....its just that I'm not convinced....by Jay, that is....i look at Colin kaepernick and how things turned out for him and he still standing tall....to the point I'm like fukk the NFL, for real...white folks is comfy with jay...this album won't change that...they won't try to ruin him....they getting money off him and he's not really challenging the system of white supremacy....

Yet Tidal is probably gonna be the only thing standing in the way of Apple's complete domination of music.

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stop promoting this jigga boo time bullshyt, breh.


keep thinking it is a joke. i know it is all a joke cause jay said it was right.


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He really is and he is making money off them while he is doing it.

There are many ways of challenging White supremacy. Just like it was different ways the enslaved resisted slavery in addition to revolting and running away aka becoming a "maroon." Challenging and resisting the system is done by everyday actions, behaviors and spreading of knowledge and self-love to others in your community as well.

Jay-Z is delivering a message to our community that could spark a change or exposing someone to another way to come up. No matter how small that message is.

It's many more ways Jay-Z has challenged White supremacy for years - but he is a business man - and you have to play and work with those you are challenging as well.


The thing of it is....if Jay z bucked the system from the get go....theres no way he would be as successful as he is....hes even admitted as much with the Common line...he co-opted and dumbed down for success...is that really success?
And if it is who gained the most from it?
The prison industrial system as well as the drug trade are billion dollar industries....jay z is at the forefront for providing the soundtrack that fuels both of these systems....
Also....
We can't accept the mindset that we need white support....if we do....black liberation is compromised....at this point in time what Jay z is spitting is trending....so how genuine is the message?
White supremacy isn't challenging him because his viewpoint is profitable in this social climate...and he's not directly challenging them...
Abolishing slavery was a economic move...that everyone benefited from...except us......

I see this as the same thing...
 

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I feel you....its just that I'm not convinced....by Jay, that is....i look at Colin kaepernick and how things turned out for him and he still standing tall....to the point I'm like fukk the NFL, for real...white folks is comfy with jay...this album won't change that...they won't try to ruin him....they getting money off him and he's not really challenging the system of white supremacy....


No doubt,I dont have a problem with people not being convinced,its the people who want to do the condemning I got a problem with:martin:.

Art Barr reaching with Andrew Carnegie references,when he could easily use Master P:pachaha:

He was on this turn over a new leaf of positivity,remorseful of his past ways when he was attempting to make a transisition...even went so far as to condemn negative aspects of hiphop....and we all know how that eventually turned out.

was Master P genuine in the moment?who knows.....I think the potential influence Jayz could have on others makes this worth giving him a chance to try to make this change as a elder and succeed,OR fail like P did when it came to keeping his message consistent.

but I think Jay is one of the most consistent in hiphop when it comes to his overall message,as well as his transistion from the streets to the fame,and his growth as a man:mjcry:

but at the end of the day,never count on a hustler to not hustle you:sas1:,we all will be watching Jay because we have no choice....and we should hold him accountable if he were to do anything to embarrass himself or especially us,its that simple.

I dont appreciate the idea Art Barr never wants to allow for anybody to change,no matter what course they life may take:mjlol:
 

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stop promoting this jigga boo time bullshyt, breh.


keep thinking it is a joke. i know it is all a joke cause jay said it was right.


art barr

I know, love and accept my history. Not ashamed plus I don't allow others to define how an images and words define me. So, it's not "Jigaboo" to me. Not Jay's version.

It's sad that you do and can't see the difference between the two.

Good night. :smile:
 

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I know, love and accept my history. Not ashamed plus I don't allow others to define how an images and words define me. So, it's not "Jigaboo" to me. Not Jay's version.

It's sad that you do and can't see the difference between the two.

Good night. :smile:


so we confusing culture thieves for the real now.
hope you sleep well on that.


art barr
 

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you ain't never said a fact about krs before bambaata, nikka.
stop trying to write some grandiose statement like you in the know culturally.
you just a fukk'n pac clone war stan, who won't read the transcripts to find out how and why he got shot for real.
all because you know the truth is in there.

just stop.
you nikkaz keep praising ya carnegie alikes.


art barr


trust me i was way ahead of the curve before the Bambatta shyt about KRS,you were just defiant and refused to listen as usual.....probaly started talking about Pac and these "transcripts" randomly instead of taking in the free game I was giving you....I never knew about Bumbatta though:scust:

But as somebody who claims to be sooooo in the know,you probaly did and didnt say shyt:sas2:

aint missed a day yet yapping about these transcripts though and Pac stan wars w/e that shyt means,I wont accuse you of being involved in a Bumbatty cover up unless you wanna keep going:sas1:...Plus even after the exposal you never went as hard at Bumbatta as you did Jay-Z in a just a 12 hour time span:mjlol:

Do some soul searching,come back and apoligize to the culture and then we might let you get your credentials back:martin:
 

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The thing of it is....if Jay z bucked the system from the get go....theres no way he would be as successful as he is....hes even admitted as much with the Common line...he co-opted and dumbed down for success...is that really success?
And if it is who gained the most from it?
The prison industrial system as well as the drug trade are billion dollar industries....jay z is at the forefront for providing the soundtrack that fuels both of these systems....
Also....
We can't accept the mindset that we need white support....if we do....black liberation is compromised....at this point in time what Jay z is spitting is trending....so how genuine is the message?
White supremacy isn't challenging him because his viewpoint is profitable in this social climate...and he's not directly challenging them...
Abolishing slavery was a economic move...that everyone benefited from...except us......

I see this as the same thing...

When you start a business and you are young - you don't know any better. He was straight from the streets - no guidance. He was out for self - not community or even on race or racism.

And people forget - when most of us are young - we are not thinking about White supremacy or fighting the system. It's rare - some do - but not most. It's about making money and getting in a position of taking care of yourself.

This' fighting White supremacy thing has become a popular term amongst Black men over the last 3-4 years - due to the Internet and social media. Sadly, a lot of y'all say the phrase and don't really understand what it means and how to fight it.

You can't fault Jay-Z or try to place that on him as a young man thrown into the industry who reached a level of success that most would not be prepared for. You can't also fault him for being about self - when others in the industry were doing the same.

Trending doesn't take away from his message or if it's genuine. It's a the way information is spread and talked about in this day and age - he can't help that either. It does show it's affect on people tho.

I disagree on challenging and the current social climate.

I could talk for days on slavery and it's affects in all way - but your right - but this can't be compared in that ways - but it's way different. Also, because many Black people are benefitting - you may not see it but they are - plus a message is being sent and being discussed amongst us for empowerment. If you can't see that - I don't know what to say.
 
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so we confusing culture thieves for the real now.
hope you sleep well on that.


art barr

who's a culture thief - if he is apart of the culture? And using what others tried to portray us as - against them to reclaim and empower the images for better?

Use your brain dude.
 
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