STORY OF OJ = SELLOUT shyt

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Imagintry and it's message is based on how it's delivered and who is delivering it.

I like Tyler - but Tyler is young and have always been on some #alllivesmatter ish - and didn't have an explantation or reason for using it. He thinks everything is funny and up to be used for jokes - and it's not. Things like that have to be explained or used in a manner where one is teaching or sparks someone to go learn more. Not for jokes but for knowledge of self or the images and why they were used.

Jay-z's message and lyrics along side of those images - especially in this day and age mean something. It's a grown man who understands how powerful yet how damaging those images were on the psyche of Black America. Reusing them to reprogram or trigger something mentally in the descendants of who those images were placed upon -- to take back themselves and redefine themselves and reclaim their self-love, financial power and communities back. And too see we need to come together - and stop thinking everything is so great now. And the myth of race doesn't matter. It does when your Black and that's fine - but let's get on the same page.


how are you dissin tyler for being young and not having any cultural respect or integrity.
yet,jay did the same thing when he debuted as a twenty eight year old man, tho.

how are you excusing and giving out a pass...
based on what, age?

if so, jay was 28,..explain how you flodge'n like this?


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If you feel that way that is your right. But, it's truth to me and my experience in life. But, I understand your point.

Did he chastised? I didn't see anything he said or talked about in the video - as a diss or trying to make one feel bad. It was facts. Credit is more important that spending that money on whatever. Use that money to pay ish off your credit and rebuild it to be able to be in a better position if you or your family ever needs to buy a home, a car, a loan, etc.

Question: what could he do more of? In terms of providing insight?

Honestly, insight depends on what type of business and/or sector you are entering into. But, credit and saving money is key in all - which he stated.
He doesn't have to do anything. The problem is the sheeple eating up this shyt like it's so profound and groundbreaking. That Jay-Z is a revolutionary. And he's shytting on the kids he raised.
 

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how are you dissin tyler for being young and not having any cultural respect or integrity.
yet,jay did the same thing when he debuted as a twenty eight year old man, tho.

how are you excusing and giving out a pass...
based on what, age?

if so, jay was 28,..explain how you flodge'n like this?


art barr

Not dissing Tyler - but as someone who likes some of Tyler's work and has followed him for a while. He acts like the #carefreeblackboy in a colorblind world. That's his reality - but not the majority of Black males in America.

Also, based off some of his comments and actions - he sees nothing wrong about making fun or or playing with imagintry and cultural stereotypes that have been damaging to us.

Tyler is managed by a White man who let's him and his crew do and say everything they want - often at the expense of Black people. Everything ain't funny or should be used for humor - especially when one hasn't been schooled or even cares about the history or those who were negatively affected by it. His platform is primarily white kids with no respect for Black culture or our ancestors.

Sure, he's Black but his audience is majority white - and if you present ish like it shouldn't be respected --- and does not look at those who were hurt by it - you don't need to mess with it.

I am basing it on respect of self-love, culture and maturity. Not age.
 
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He doesn't have to do anything. The problem is the sheeple eating up this shyt like it's so profound and groundbreaking. That Jay-Z is a revolutionary. And he's shytting on the kids he raised.

I think they are just happy to hear something different and progressive. Not eating it up. It was a breath of fresh air and relatable for a lot of people trying to get out or find a way out of debt and stagnation. Sometimes you need to hear someone tell you or remind you to get on your shyt. Just imagine if we heard messages like that everyday.

Your train of thought changes - if you allow it too.

I think he saying I made a lot of mistakes, but here are a few things I learned a long the way. Take it or leave it. Keep doing the ish I showed you - or grow up.
 

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Ohhhhh the cowboy edict. Well why didn't you say so? Gotcha. A quick google search of the "cowboy edict" links to......one other post by you. :russ:

This is what I'm talking about. This dude's is all limericks and horseshyt.


expose you don't know shyt about hiphop and say you don't know what the cowboy edict is.
or in longer terms the situation attached to the first important death in rap.
which lead to even why big's death is celebrated.
yet, the prohibitive tale and subsequent od death of cowboy created the very edict.
that ushered in the prohibitive culture rich music history base in content culturally that make a rap record a rap record in the old and new school way of thought.
which is also highlighted by the remix of white lines.


now, how many more times do i have to expose you are a toy.
as you are not hiphop if you do not know this just off top.

do i continue,...and continue to dissect your puny weak face ass sentences, cause i can you culture thief enabling toy.




sporticus said:
More vagueness and nonsense. What exactly did he steal from Wu-Tang? Cuz I don't recall any slang that Jay-Z took from Wu. He bit artistic coded expression? You're out of your fukking mind. People might buy your little attempt to cloud an empty answer with nonsense verbiage, but I'm on to you.

And what do any of this have to do with him being some sort of racial sellout?



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sporticus said:
He was part of the jiggy style? So what? Slighted hip-hop how? More empty nonsense. And bit Fresh Prince? Hahaha
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pic to showcase how wrong you are incomparison to the wu gambinos.


instead of coding his content.
jay wanted to be the group who capitalized from a first person all the clout and spoils the cowboy edict made taboo.
that even the harlem group lead by az could not become culturally endorsed as rap acts.
yet, here is jayz trying to shark wu gambinos whole mythos so hard core.
here he is taking the gimmick to the extreme and now trying to embody the idea all blacks should be gumba's.
when wu gambinos was a coded content based prohibitive tale that took responsibility for the content from a coded and covert stance that was third person or reflective.






yet here is another exposal and simple history in the culture of hiphop you don't know and are ignorant too.

yet you will be the one trying to talk like you are in the know and a toy.

you do not know this culture.
so, stop running ya mouth.



sporticus said:
Ah the infamous Rocafella breakup that small nyggas don't understand. Jay, Dame and Biggs sold Rocafella. They all got paid fairly. Nobody got ripped off.

He never tried to pass off someone else's lyrics as HIS or slip anything by anybody. This is an old argument.

jayz is a biter.
jay everyone from geuchi suede to any one who he could style morph off of.
whether they were on his label or ll cool j to snooop.




jay done stole everything from ll even down to his voice on the actual record that he samples him on on your only a customer too.

that is not the only time and if you need some more references i can son you when you ask later on for more.



plus, when this dropped and legtimized emo from a grassroots perspective.

no one listen to slug before this, on song and dissed emo.
they acted like my real contemporaries i draw equally with were no factor.





yet,since this occurred and a distribution was awarded, and a marketing firm with dominance arose.





now jay is making this.



straight ripoff of emo, to handle getting embarrassed as nas and continue to launch the sean carter dual id as a constant that would have appeared on the wb label if he had not of double backdoored lyor, when he double backdoored dame/biggs, and then lyor for defjam.
plus, as a way to keep kanye from being the emo draw on rocafella as a stop gap to jay leaving.
instead he sharked the entire sean carter and emo lane for himself and tried but failed to keep ye from being equal or a larger draw. so, instead he pandered to have ye backdoor dame and go to the defjam lead by jay.
now, jay is emo as only a pander.

sporticus said:
Again, none of this explaining why he's some sort of racial sellout or unqualified to give game.



I'm waiting for you to start.



As far as I can tell, the only person upset is you. You seem miserable. Time has passed you by and your vision of your so-called culture died a long time ago and you're still in slow mourning and denial. It's never coming back so you lash out when you see people enjoying the music and the culture as it is NOW.




That sentence right there made no sense whatsoever. I'm not sure it even had a subject and a predicate. You say nothing and talk in endless circular riddles. You're either a great troll, and if that's the case, more power to you.....or a sad dude.

i explained the rocafella to wb and defjam presidency split earlier.
yet, you were so busy trying to dispel a fact and you can not disprove a fact.
you just showcased how much of a non-knowing toy you are.

don't ever question me again, you fukk'n toy.


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Ayo,...
so, this sellout nikka gets to use all the sellout jiggaboo time imagery and throw he was a sellout in your face.
simply cause he soul'd out to make all his money.
Then try to make it like it was a great business decision.
while him and the clown who ruined everything about rap gloat about it on record and in Forbes.
yet nikkaz is ignoring this.


y'all some hoes for that.



art barr
lmao you sound like someone that works a 9 to 5

well guess what breh, you sell out your time for the white man to tell you what to do,
 

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I understand where Art is coming from....ima just address the imagery in the video:
A few years ago Tyler the creator was selling t shirts with the same type of characters eating chicken and watermelon
Black folks was outraged
He didn't get a pass, neither does Hov

tyler the creator is a known troll and c00n,dont compare him with Jay-Z:scust:

guess yall are still naive enough to think only the nikkas who was wearing kufis since the beggining of rap are the genuine.

and Art we aint forget,you use to tell us how genuine Bambatta and KRS was:scust:

so far you deep in the red when it comes to being the authority on who black folks should believe are authentic:martin:..."Trust me Bambatta a real one yall:whoa:"

Jayz using his influence for good should never be downplayed or questioned. Are you saying once you usher in one wave you shouldnt be allowed to change as you grow older?you are basically downplaying the importance of oldheads and og's in the rap game....he's supposed to do dumb shyt early in his career and then tell nikkas where he went wrong....problem is some of yall are so use to olheads being irrelevent and voiceless,youve never seen this before and cant proccess it:wow:
 

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Not dissing Tyler - but as someone who likes some of Tyler's work and has followed him for a while. He acts like the #carefreeblackboy in a colorblind world. That's his reality - but not the majority of Black males in America.

Also, based off some of his comments and actions - he sees nothing wrong about making fun or or playing with imagintry and cultural stereotypes that have been damaging to us.

Tyler is managed by a White man who let's him and his crew do and say everything they want - often at the expense of Black people. Everything ain't funny or should be used for humor - especially when one hasn't been schooled or even cares about the history or those who were negatively affected by it. His platform is primarily white kids with no respect for Black culture or our ancestors.

Sure, he's Black but his audience is majority white - and if you present ish like it shouldn't be respected --- and does not look at those who were hurt by it - you don't need to mess with it.

I am basing it on respect of self-love, culture and maturity. Not age.


so, when jayz was dissing the culture of hiphop and framing it as not being shyt.
to create the actual space upon which tyler the creator can diss hiphop and black culture like he does as a joke.
is all because jayz and the jiggy movement made a mockery of hiphop creatively and as a culture.

so, he is directly responsible for how and why tyler does what he does.
as he is the very act that made, making a culture mockery of hiphop.
that spun out of control that allows tyler the idea he thinks he could use to undermine black culture as a rap artist.

jayz enabled artist like tyler and a whole gen not to give one iota of a fukk about the culture of the impoverished called hiphop.
so, again,...how are you giving a pass.
or is your pass just based upon your lack of actual facts on the man, and not knowing any real cultural facts about hiphop.



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tyler the creator is a known troll and c00n,dont compare him with Jay-Z:scust:

guess yall are still naive enough to think only the nikkas who was wearing kufis since the beggining of rap are the genuine.

and Art we aint forget,you use to tell us how genuine Bambatta and KRS was:scust:

so far you deep in the red when it comes to being the authority on who black folks should believe are authentic:martin:..."Trust me Bambatta a real one yall:whoa:"

Jayz using his influence for good should never be downplayed or questioned. Are you saying once you usher in one wave you shouldnt be allowed to change as you grow older?you are basically downplaying the importance of oldheads and og's in the rap game....he's supposed to do dumb shyt early in his career and then tell nikkas where he went wrong....problem is some of yall are so use to olheads being irrelevent and voiceless,youve never seen this before and cant proccess it:wow:


when did i not hold krs and bambaata accountable, just like everyone else, tho.

if you violate you getting what you always got and that was the mark on ya culture card and how you would be judged.

how you guys try to deflect on this is.
is the same braintrust the government used as a science to put us where we are right now.

so, keep playing oblivious.
also,..i have seen this before and it was done by carnegie.

so please stop.
you just expose why you always self expose you don't know the culture of hiphop.
you just a pac stan refugee who been lost, my nikka.

so kill your whole failed attempt to attack me cause i been calling out your lack of culture face ass since you fell through, breh.


you not fooling nobody,..nobody believes you around here like that.



art barr

nikkaz be having their little personal attacks, trying to deflect they are toys and posers and still showcase they are toys and posers.

i don't do it to you, i see you doing it to yourself.
then, clown you for how you did it to yourself.
 

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show you failed the gateway to american history.
then, failed to do critical thinking.
while trying to praise a fake hotep culture thief.
that shows you really don't know any ledge of understanding about culture or even the gateway in history to have knowledge of self in an economic babylon.

nikkaz talking about hustling and don't even know how to spot fake philanthropist game from carnegie.

what work you done did, and don't know about the guy who made work into how you enslaved in this country and then gloated about it just like jayz.

which was right after he got hosed in the steel industry, and took an L.
just like jay been trying to be the sean carter persona.
ever since he got served by nas.
then, pulled a double coup of lyor, dame and biggs to fleece the roc and defjam from the whole culture thief trio.
shyt is comedy watching nikkaz give passes to these culture thief face ass nikkaz.




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so, when jayz was dissing the culture of hiphop and framing it as not being shyt.
to create the actual space upon which tyler the creator can diss hiphop and black culture like he does as a joke.
is all because jayz and the jiggy movement made a mockery of hiphop creatively and as a culture.

so, he is directly responsible for how and why tyler does what he does.
as he is the very act that made, making a culture mockery of hiphop.
that spun out of control that allows tyler the idea he thinks he could use to undermine black culture as a rap artist.

jayz enabled artist like tyler and a whole gen not to give one iota of a fukk about the culture of the impoverished called hiphop.
so, again,...how are you giving a pass.
or is your pass just based upon your lack of actual facts on the man, and not knowing any real cultural facts about hiphop.



art barr

I give up dude.

If you don't get it or look at his message from his latest release differently - we will have to agree to disagree. I respect your viewpoint - though I don't agree.
 

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lmao you sound like someone that works a 9 to 5

well guess what breh, you sell out your time for the white man to tell you what to do,


every dollar you or i make in babylon is the white man's, tho.
so, how are you talking to me about a nine to five.

my nine to five made it so you could get on the net to talk, tho.

now stfu. with this huff ass regular guy fail at a joke bullshyt.


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I give up dude.

If you don't get it or look at his message from his latest release differently - we will have to agree to disagree. I respect your viewpoint - though I don't agree.


i accept this as a concede.

i don't have to have you agree with me to be right tho, and i am right, tho.


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