STORY OF OJ = SELLOUT shyt

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im very happy he went this route with the album........ but you cant get rich off selling drugs and then rapping about selling drugs and then wait till your worth 800 Million before you now half turn conscious and expect people not to be suspicious though.
Its seems somehow not genuine. something about jay always seems non genuine, like this is all just a money grab because BLM and LGBT is trending right now. guy is viewed as a scam artist sometimes and i see why. Some ill lines though but If he really means this then he'll follow it up with actions that actually matter on a political level , i wanna see stuff like what Colin Kapernick did, him actually putting himself all the way out there for the people and the message he now seems to care about so deeply. For now i remain skeptical about his ''change''
This is just jay being jay making that money.
If he was poor people would complain, he's rich, people complain. No matter who speaks black empowerment, someone will complain. People are looking for the perfect messenger and it doesn't exist. Jay doesn't have the personality to be like Colin. That's Colin's lane and he does it well. Jay is active in media, and owns media companies and is creating media to highlight the black struggle i.e. Kalief Browder's doc and the new one he's working on. (I forget what it is right now.) I read an article about him quietly taking care of the families of black men killed by police. I know he sent Sean Bell's kids to college. Jay has been doing his thing, he just does it his way. His career has been an indication that nobody's gonna bully him into a position he doesn't want to be in.

One paragraph in the back of the NY Times. 2008.
Rapper Creates Trust for Sean Bell’s Children

His black empowerment vibe isn't a new thing just because he's more blatant about it now.

Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean Jay Z isn't ultra conscious and charitable
 

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He didn't change. He's capitalizing off "the woke" movement. He's as disingenuous as a person can get. "I'm giving you a million dollars wortha game for $9.99" WTF? You so concerned about your people and wanting them to make it, why aren't giving them "game" for free? He's so concerned about black ownership, why didn't he partner with a black company for the launch? Is Sprint suddenly black owned?


sprint pays for his albums up front.
so, this time for marketing and pr.
he decided to bundle his philanthropy in with the marketing pr with sprint.
so it feels like more of a soft conscious sale.
shyt is all or marketing campaigns.
this shyt is as culture thief of a move any one culture thief could make.

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nikka saying he does shyt for the cold crush.
yet never gave any publishing up.
til after the fact to the state property nikka who came up with the hook on his lead single to roc la tho.
don't believe none of this shyt.
he pulled a Double coup on the guy he came up with and on the exec who was gonna coup defjam and rocafella for the wb. Till jay double double crossed and swerved said exec to be the head of DJ.

y'all can believe this fake pander shyt all you want.


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I understand where Art is coming from....ima just address the imagery in the video:
A few years ago Tyler the creator was selling t shirts with the same type of characters eating chicken and watermelon
Black folks was outraged
He didn't get a pass, neither does Hov


Preciate it, handshake.


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He didn't change. He's capitalizing off "the woke" movement. He's as disingenuous as a person can get. "I'm giving you a million dollars wortha game for $9.99" WTF? You so concerned about your people and wanting them to make it, why aren't giving them "game" for free? He's so concerned about black ownership, why didn't he partner with a black company for the launch? Is Sprint suddenly black owned?

Not being funny - but it doesn't work like that. Name what telecom company or Black company in general - any segment that can help him keep his company and employees paid based off partnering with them?

There is none.

You have to know when and how to use partnerships for the benefit of growing your company. Sprint was a smart move. I don't know the details of the deal - but I am sure it was something that allowed him to make sure his payroll and other expenses are paid. Who's not to say Sprint didn't pay for this release and Jay didn't have to come out of pocket.

Right now - sponsorship deals are everything. Advertising is totally different than it was even a year ago. Some companies won't work with you unless you are exclusively working with them now. It's crazy out here.

Now, what Jay-Z can do and I can say for a fact in the marketing department of Tidal and RocNation does is work with Black pr agencies, talent, and other Black owned media related companies or Black consultants - that's black business - but it's not in the form of Major corps - cause sadly their is none on the level that financially support all the things that come with a release.

The truth is - right now NO Black business can stay up and run off Black dollars. Not one market - that is the problem - and until we unite and value and support our own media and other black businesses - we will have to work with non-Black companies to get the checks we need to run and help pull up others.
 
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Everything is about making money. But, that doesn't mean you can drop some lessons, how-to's and best practices at the same time or during the money exchange.

That's the game of business.

Work with anyone who calls themselves an entrepreneur or owns a business. Time is money. No one is doing anything for free out here. You WILL be charged --- but if you get the chance to be around them, or if they feel they can help you by telling you something you may not know - but can help you --- they will. Or if you are a employee and work with them long enough - you will be taught or pick up on some things that will change up your life and money.

That's how I look at what he's doing for some.


All of that suspicious shyt is in your head. He is a human being homie...

:snoop:

Anyway, as you can see...fukk the artistry, fukk the philanthropy, it's all for show, he's gotta do his show on one knee Colin Kapernick style. Still an untrustworthy drug dealing nikka.

:mjlol:



If he was poor people would complain, he's rich, people complain. No matter who speaks black empowerment, someone will complain. People are looking for the perfect messenger and it doesn't exist. Jay doesn't have the personality to be like Colin. That's Colin's lane and he does it well. Jay is active in media, and owns media companies and is creating media to highlight the black struggle i.e. Kalief Browder's doc and the new one he's working on. (I forget what it is right now.) I read an article about him quietly taking care of the families of black men killed by police. I know he sent Sean Bell's kids to college. Jay has been doing his thing, he just does it his way. His career has been an indication that nobody's gonna bully him into a position he doesn't want to be in.

One paragraph in the back of the NY Times. 2008.
Rapper Creates Trust for Sean Bell’s Children

His black empowerment vibe isn't a new thing just because he's more blatant about it now.

Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean Jay Z isn't ultra conscious and charitable

you know what. These are some really good counter points. im going to pause here.
 

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Was this ever answered?


yes, I answered this.

I have always cited in full any artist who is a culture theif and why.
people.who make up any false narrative about me is always offkey and not voting the real as it pertains to:


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Not being funny - but it doesn't work like that. Name what telecom company or Black company in general - any segment that can help him keep his company and employees paid based off partnering with them?

There is none.

You have to know when and how to use partnerships for the benefit of growing your company. Sprint was a smart move. I don't know the details of the deal - but I am sure it was something that allowed him to make sure he payroll and other expenses are paid. Who's not to say Sprint didn't pay for this release and Jay didn't have to come out of pocket.

Right now - sponsorship deals are everything. Advertising is totally different than it was even a year ago. Some companies won't work with you unless you are exclusively working with them now. It's crazy out here.

Now, what Jay-Z can do and I can say for a fact in the marketing department of Tidal and RocNation does is work with Black pr agencies, talent, and other Black owned media related companies or Black consultants - that's black business - but it's not in the form of Major corps - cause sadly their is none on the level that financially support all the things that come with a release.

The truth is - right now NO Black business can stay up and run off Black dollars. Not one market - that is the problem - and until we unite and value and support our own media and other black businesses - we will have to work with non-Black companies to get the checks we need to run and help pull up others.

No offense but you said a bunch of nothing like Jay-Z. If there is no major black owned corporations to put nikkas in power and nikkas are still in need of the white dollar to succeed, who the fukk is Jay-Z to chastise anyone, when he c00ned it up and acted a fool to get to where he is now? Now he's sitting cushy, still getting the white dollar, but wants you to move "smarter". But provides no real insight on how to achieve anything.
 

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Respect fam...but at the moment...i don't feel it's sincere coming from jay...its a Lotta conscious pimps out here...its the preacher hustle repackaged for the new millennium...just to keep it a buck the song isn't really saying anything revolutionary...we've just been drowning in so much bullshyt that it seems like a breath of fresh air...who is he talking to? Black people know that we're still considered nikkas...c00ns don't....and the message will go over their heads.....he speaks on rappers signing deals....but isn't he signing artists to 360 deals? He's worth over half a billy...drop the album for free if you feel the masses need the message so badly....this the same guy that was selling occupy all streets t shirts to capitalize off the occupy wall street movement.....


Ok. But, say one doesn't sign up for Tidal and they hear his message for free? Is he still pimping?

And I def agree - nothing he is saying is revolutionary but it's not being said and taught to those who need to hear it - or sadly feel it's not accessible. It is accessible - and that is what he is saying.

Ok - if he drops if for free - that's money out his pocket - but that is also hurting the growth of his business. Nothing is for free. He is a talent - he should be paid. What white artist is out here dropping for free. A company has bills and expenses. That's money loss from server/hosting of Tidal and that money out of RocNation. Which has employees and expenses for both.

He is only one man. He is also an artist and only owns one label. And he doesn't make the rules on deals. Deals are run in conjunction with sponsorships/ads with brands. These brands have stipulations and their own set up - he can try and present different offers - but in the end - if I am working with a brand - that wants to pay or pay a good portion for my talent - and it helps me stay open - I have to do what I have to do. And try to change it as I go and grow.
 
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No offense but you said a bunch of nothing like Jay-Z. If there is no major black owned corporations to put nikkas in power and nikkas are still in need of the white dollar to succeed, who the fukk is Jay-Z to chastise anyone, when he c00ned it up and acted a fool to get to where he is now? Now he's sitting cushy, still getting the white dollar, but wants you to move "smarter". But provides no real insight on how to achieve anything.
NOBODY WANTS TO ACHIEVE THEY JUST WANT FANTASIES TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN. DREAMS ARE FREE ACTUALIZING THEM TAKES PAIN AND WORK.
 

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I'm confused, is the problem y'all have with it - the imagery (video) or the song? :dwillhuh:


the artist and the imagery the artist is presenting.
when said artist is the lead culture thief enamored with selling out and pandering for a look.
yet gloats and humble brags about money choices he acquired.
while selling out and being a culture thief to hip hop via the rap industry.



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No offense but you said a bunch of nothing like Jay-Z. If there is no major black owned corporations to put nikkas in power and nikkas are still in need of the white dollar to succeed, who the fukk is Jay-Z to chastise anyone, when he c00ned it up and acted a fool to get to where he is now? Now he's sitting cushy, still getting the white dollar, but wants you to move "smarter". But provides no real insight on how to achieve anything.

If you feel that way that is your right. But, it's truth to me and my experience in life. But, I understand your point.

Did he chastised? I didn't see anything he said or talked about in the video - as a diss or trying to make one feel bad. It was facts. Credit is more important that spending that money on whatever. Use that money to pay ish off your credit and rebuild it to be able to be in a better position if you or your family ever needs to buy a home, a car, a loan, etc.

Question: what could he do more of? In terms of providing insight?

Honestly, insight depends on what type of business and/or sector you are entering into. But, credit and saving money is key in all - which he stated.
 

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Art Barr you overthinking shyt as usual, what if the nikka Jay just grew up as a person, i mean what if he has a new perspective on life and things, what if he experienced somthin that changed his mind bout things? he makes music and going thru life like the rest of us, cool out my nikka, all you do is talk shyt bout the most popular artists and highlight all of their inconsistencies but aren't we all insonsistent at times, we just see and hear theirs. According to you people aren't allowed to grow mentally or spiritually, i mean cmon bruh nobody is perfect especially nobody in this thing we call hip hop, all these nikkas is hypocrites and shyt and some are pedophiles ask your hero KRS.

you do realize i dissed krs one as well.
unlike you i don't pick and choose and hold all sellouts accountable.
i will take this W, on your failed attempt.
to over think how you were still gonna take your L, tho.

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@Art Barr i really just been dissing you but when I get home I'm really gonna address this bullshyt and son the shyt out of you.



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in 1996, he clearly violated the cowboy edict.

Ohhhhh the cowboy edict. Well why didn't you say so? Gotcha. A quick google search of the "cowboy edict" links to......one other post by you. :russ:

This is what I'm talking about. This dude's is all limericks and horseshyt.

trying to bite a more artistic and coded expression provided in content and slang by the wu tang and his other contemporaries.

More vagueness and nonsense. What exactly did he steal from Wu-Tang? Cuz I don't recall any slang that Jay-Z took from Wu. He bit artistic coded expression? You're out of your fukking mind. People might buy your little attempt to cloud an empty answer with nonsense verbiage, but I'm on to you.

And what do any of this have to do with him being some sort of racial sellout?

was a part of the jiggy movement.
slighted the culture of hiphop since his debut inception and bit fresh prince.

He was part of the jiggy style? So what? Slighted hip-hop how? More empty nonsense. And bit Fresh Prince? Hahaha

said he was down for his brothers, and his fam.
yet, when it came time to do so. he performed a double coup of his brothers and admin in lyor cohen at wb, and then took the more lucrative bounty to stay at defjam.
jay is a biter.

Ah the infamous Rocafella breakup that small nyggas don't understand. Jay, Dame and Biggs sold Rocafella. They all got paid fairly. Nobody got ripped off.

He never tried to pass off someone else's lyrics as HIS or slip anything by anybody. This is an old argument.

Again, none of this explaining why he's some sort of racial sellout or unqualified to give game.

do i continue.

I'm waiting for you to start.

now, you can try to play this whole game of i don't know the culture but you don't know the culture and the passes i see given out is why you nikkaz are miserable and don't have shyt to enjoy.
yet keep continuing to cite old sales spike numbers and jiggy sellout references to fake make yourself okay with it.

As far as I can tell, the only person upset is you. You seem miserable. Time has passed you by and your vision of your so-called culture died a long time ago and you're still in slow mourning and denial. It's never coming back so you lash out when you see people enjoying the music and the culture as it is NOW.


keep fronting..

now what else do you want elaborated on,..that i have always explained,.
that you bih nikkaz get mad when it has length related to the actual content and instance that took place for the topic discussed.


art barr

That sentence right there made no sense whatsoever. I'm not sure it even had a subject and a predicate. You say nothing and talk in endless circular riddles. You're either a great troll, and if that's the case, more power to you.....or a sad dude.
 
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