Stop with the STEVE NASH disrespect

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PG has been All NBA and All Defensive Team since as early as the 2012 season....he’s been a top 10ish player at times throughout that whole period...and at similar points of their careers has objectively been the more accomplished player over Nash....Nash gets all this all time great praise for a couple year stretch where he somehow gets ALL the credit for a Dantoni gimmick team where he had multiple teammates be as or more productive as he was (look at the PER numbers for Amare and Marion someone just posted) and even besides that...that team didn’t accomplish JACK shyt :russ:
Breh...2nd and 3rd year PG was a defensive player on a team full of defenders with great upside on offense. He was NOT the offensive cornerstone MVP Nash was. You know this.
 

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so Nash isn’t one of the GOAT PGs?

Just a lot of dumb people here.

NFL discussion may have arguments here, but the quality of discussion is ten times higher than any NBA discussion here. The stanning and hate for certain players is absurd.
 

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From my experience I just think it's very difficult for a smaller player to take over a game to the extent that a larger player can. It's easy for a playoff defense to suffocate them and harder for them to make an impact on the defensive end. If you had to name the best players under 6'4" over the last 20 years, the ones who show up the most on All-NBA teams - Nash, CP3, Rose, Westbrook, Dame - what do you notice they all have in common? Not one of them ever made the Finals as a #1 option. The only guy I left out is the one who did it - AI - and he was a fukking unicorn and still only managed one Finals appearance.

I'm not saying shorter players are inferior or less skilled or anything. It's just that playoff basketball is that much more difficult for them. It's no accident that most people's all-time Top-10 lists don't include anyone under 6'5", even though 99% of folk who ever pick up a basketball are 6'5" or under.

Nash woulda def made the finals in 07 if it wasn’t for that suspension..damn shame:martin:
 

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04-05 Suns

Amar'e Stoudemare: 26 PPG, 9 RPG, 1.6 BPG & 1 STL
Shawn Marion: 19.4 PPG, 11.3 RPG, 2 SPG & 1.5 BPG
Joe Johnson: 17.1 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 3.5 APG & 1 SPG
Quentin Richardson: 15.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG & 1 SPG


Cac had a squad around him that year and still couldn't win shyt.

They lost to the eventual champs and the BEST POWER FORWARD EVER that ain’t no knock against Nash dumb dumb
 

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How is Nash disrespected when media and fans have conspired to provide him the single greatest plea cop in the history of sports? To this day people talk about the Horry hip check and Amare supsension for one game not the rest of the series mind you. No one talks about the Suns losing a close game 5 at the crib with Nash shooting 6-19 and missing the game tying 3 late. For any other back to back MVP with no rings, this would be their "legacy". But for good old Nash we ignore it and blame everything and everyone else.

Can’t put that on Nash they were missing 2 out of their 4 best players. They simply ran out of gas
 

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Just a lot of dumb people here.

NFL discussion may have arguments here, but the quality of discussion is ten times higher than any NBA discussion here. The stanning and hate for certain players is absurd.

Shut up. fukk Brady
 
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so Nash isn’t one of the GOAT PGs?


Dude said top 5.... :mjlol: It's like 3 PGs still playing currently that's better than Nash...... We aint gon mention Zeek, Magic, Big O, J, Kidd, Glove, etc..... nikkas acting like D'Antoni system didn't have Raymond Felt at 17 points and 9 assists a decade ago.... I said Raymond fukking Felton.....

Just a lot of dumb people here.

NFL discussion may have arguments here, but the quality of discussion is ten times higher than any NBA discussion here. The stanning and hate for certain players is absurd.

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