Stone Cold is OVERRATED

[showtime]

Austin's heel work is what basically gave them the platform to turn him face and run with it, go watch some of those promos when he was calling out Bret, you can't tell me he wasn't believable (a MUST for a heel) , I was almost worried dude was going to legit beat the shyt outta Bret

Steve was doing everything a great heel is supposed to do from late summer 96 until the double switch at mania. Lets not even go back beyond that even though Austin was damn good in WCW, they had imbeciles booking the show then we all know that. He was already more or less Stone Cold in his brief time in ECW, just without the name, the wit and intensity was there.


I'm not sure who I'd say the GOAT is, in wrestling its tough to say because of the variables but someone listing Steve as the goat isn't some ridiculous statement. I'm all for cats expressing their opinions but damn.


Longevity is a seriously overatted attribute to judging greatness, when you consider there's a LOT of cats who had 20 plus year careers and lived off nostalgia and name and not in ring merit and innovative mic work through over half of it.



-P-

WTF are u talking about? Longevity separates the goats from someone who get's hot for a stretch period. Macho Man, Hogan, and Flair did it for longer then a 3 year stretch which makes them in the discussion for being the GOAT

The Austin 3:16 heel was a good heel but it was anywhere near a GOAT heel. It wasn't close to the level of Hollywood Hogan, Macho King, and The Rock's heel runs were.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Longevity? ROTY in 91 and had feuds with Steamboat,Flair,Sting,Runnels before becoming Stone GOAT. GTFOH

 

[Silkk]

Has @Hulk Hogan or @Hollywood Hogan made an appearance yet?

 

[bear27]

The Rock was a bigger draw then Austin during attitude era men lie women lie numbers don't.

Hmmm another way more known poster seems to use that a lot on here too

 

[Swiggy]

Threads like this aren't helping

 

[Chris Mauro]

Rock and Austin were like vanilla and chocolate icecream during the attitude era


no homo



they both needed each other to be great

 

[puppetmaster]

WTF are u talking about? Longevity separates the goats from someone who get's hot for a stretch period. Macho Man, Hogan, and Flair did it for longer then a 3 year stretch which makes them in the discussion for being the GOAT

The Austin 3:16 heel was a good heel but it was anywhere near a GOAT heel. It wasn't close to the level of Hollywood Hogan, Macho King, and The Rock's heel runs were.

Longevity is an intangible not the measuring stick. Like I said the quality of that longevity is what would support your position. Hogan had some ROUGH stretches in the 90's. Rock was only a full time wrestler for roughly 8 years. So does your longevity apply there too?

You can hold longevity against Goldberg for instance, I get that he was as hot as anybody in history for one year. Austin wasn't an unknown or a scrub before he blew up in 96/97 and considering what dude did while being severely injured thru the bulk of his "prime" I fail to see how he's overatted.

Austin breaking into Brian Pillman's house on live tv alone moves him from good to great heel tier. Dude seemed flat out dangerous and retained that dangerous aura as a face. VERY difficult to do


Nonetheless its your thread and your opinion man, have at it.




-P-

 

[DopeMan]

Austin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rock

 

[ExodusNirvana]

The Rock was a bigger draw then Austin during attitude era men lie women lie numbers don't.

Those Raws are easily available for viewing online.

So why come with the huff shyt when it is known that when Austin 3:16 began, no one gave a flying fukk about Rocky Maivia and he was an afterthought until well after he joined the Nation, well after he started preferring to himself in third person, and well into the Attitude era, which was already in full swing by then courtesy of HBK and of course the dude who flipped off everyone, guzzled beer and put his finisher on the boss

 

[SYDNEY AMBROSE]

That's My G.O.A.T

 

[krackdagawd]

 

[Nintendough]

Rock and Austin were like vanilla and chocolate icecream during the attitude era


no homo



they both needed each other to be great

NAH

I know that is the politically correct thing to say but NO. Rock needed Austin, but Austin DID NOT need Rock. Austin was better in the ring and had a more charismatic character while Rock always had to revert back to trying to be funny, that was always hit or miss for him. Austin was always booked stronger than Rock for a reason. :mjplz:

 

[showtime]

Longevity? ROTY in 91 and had feuds with Steamboat,Flair,Sting,Runnels before becoming Stone GOAT. GTFOH

Longevity as a TOP GUY not midcard.

 

[showtime]

Those Raws are easily available for viewing online.

So why come with the huff shyt when it is known that when Austin 3:16 began, no one gave a flying fukk about Rocky Maivia and he was an afterthought until well after he joined the Nation, well after he started preferring to himself in third person, and well into the Attitude era, which was already in full swing by then courtesy of HBK and of course the dude who flipped off everyone, guzzled beer and put his finisher on the boss

What are you talking about easily available online? The Rock was in the wrestling business for a shorter period and reached the top ALOT quicker then Austin. While Austin wasn't around the Rock carried the WWF to it's highest ratings ever. Get your facts straight

 

[showtime]

Reasons Austin is Overrated

1.) Austin was not a GOAT heel like Macho man, Hogan and The Rock

2.) Austin was elite for 3 years when other guys like Macho Man, Hogan, and Flair were for much longer

3.) Austin got lucky to make it big, if it wasn't for the KLIQ having fun out there and Triple H getting punished Austin wouldn't have gotten a big push.

4.) When Austin was out and The Rock was the guy the wwf got it's highest ratings EVER

5.) Austin took his ball and went home. The GOAT don't do that.