Stephen Jackson “why do we see black NFL draftees with white girls, no white boys with black girls?”

[Ya?]

Ok. Why can’t you just express your thoughts on this without your mentor, though? It’s okay for you to disagree with me, btw. After all I’m seeing this through my lens, you’re seeing it through yours. I don’t have a mentor or anyone maternal in my life anymore, so I just express what others younger and in my age range(friends and family) have discussed with me about this issue and relay it.

Is that what the mentor helps you with?

I just dropped by on Dr. Hassan Johnson on YouTube, if the comments are any indication of Dr. Johnson beliefs then I don’t know if a balanced conversation can be had.

I just get a sense that youseenmywork and the men that he follows leave a bulk of the black American community issues at the feet of BW just like they accused the black feminists of doing.
I get a sense that they want the respect and adulation of black women but want to leave the responsibility of clean up to women.

I don’t see where self accountability and acknowledgment of the fair share of man responsibility is factored when I listen to the Dr. curry types and all those discussing black masculinity.

also there is the trump card of the favouring other nonBW as Miller feminine, better partners and better mothers as a a solution to the black male problem.
I don’t know, because from where I stand BM who do not accept their part in black domestic issues take the same negative behaviour to nonBW and create the same dynamic. And this is where I believe BW will be redeemed as more nonBW get the toxic behavior of a segment black male population that blame BW for everything but that’s just my insight.

 

[douche]

 

[CarmelBarbie]

I just dropped by on Dr. Hassan Johnson on YouTube, if the comments are any indication of Dr. Johnson beliefs then I don’t know if a balanced conversation can be had.

I just get a sense that youseenmywork and the men that he follows leave a bulk of the black American community issues at the feet of BW just like they accused the black feminists of doing.
I get a sense that they want the respect and adulation of black women but want to leave the responsibility of clean up to women.

I don’t see where self accountability and acknowledgment of the fair share of man responsibility is factored when I listen to the Dr. curry types and all those discussing black masculinity.

also there is the trump card of the favouring other nonBW as Miller feminine, better partners and better mothers as a a solution to the black male problem.
I don’t know, because from where I stand BM who do not accept their part in black domestic issues take the same negative behaviour to nonBW and create the same dynamic. And this is where I believe BW will be redeemed as more nonBW get the toxic behavior of a segment black male population that blame BW for everything but that’s just my insight.

hmmm okay, thanks for the insight. I don’t listen or watch any of those YouTube doctors tbh. I don’t trust them—I only go on YouTube for music and asmr. Life as weird as it is, when I hear about some of the movements taking place through social media I just . I take the YouTube experts/doctors with a grain of salt, I see most of them as amateurs that parrot their own biased opinions, seeking facts that validate what they spew. That’s not to say that any of them are wrong, because their may be truth somewhere, Im just very discerning about who I listen to and seek advice from. That’s what scares me about these current generations, so many are being influenced and seeking information from amateurs speaking opinion and calling it fact. If that doctor believes all that, it’s even more of a reason for my proposed solution. Let those Brehs get with nonbw in peace. Life will work it all out in the long run.

 

[Youseenmywork]

hmmm okay, thanks for the insight. I don’t listen or watch any of those YouTube doctors tbh. I don’t trust them—I only go on YouTube for music and asmr. Life as weird as it is, when I hear about some of the movements taking place through social media I just . I take the YouTube experts/doctors with a grain of salt, I see most of them as amateurs that parrot their own biased opinions, seeking facts that validate what they spew. That’s not to say that any of them are wrong, because their may be truth somewhere, Im just very discerning about who I listen to and seek advice from. That’s what scares me about these current generations, so many are being influenced and seeking information from amateurs speaking opinion and calling it fact. If that doctor believes all that, it’s even more of a reason for my proposed solution. Let those Brehs get with nonbw in peace. Life will work it all out in the long run.

Jesus

 

[CarmelBarbie]

Jesus

I don’t take YouTube doctors seriously breh... like I said I only use YouTube for asmr and music.

if your mentor believes what ya? said that’s fine. As I’ve said before letting bm do and be with whomever they want without speaking against it or directing negative energy toward it, works favorably for y’all and for bw.

 

[philmonroe]

Who cares

I agree it’s who cares but nowadays being black online seems to also include dudes worrying about who some next dude fukking. Who cares because whether that person fukks with a black person or not unless they immediate family how does any of that benefit you (general you) personally?

 

[philmonroe]

Bruh you dikk watch like a scorn thot. I get women doing this shyt, but grown (allegedly) straight men? Jesus Christ. And I date black women

how would your kids feel knowing their father dikk watches other men? shyt is pathetic. I feel bad for them knowing their father is an ole nail salon waitin to exhale ass nikka

Now you know these weirdo feel comfortable letting their cheeks down online. They know they can’t pull these stunts online. None of them work. The ole you must date white irl would get stomped out real quick. The you’re a c00n won’t be said irl so that’s a no go. Their main two online talking points gone quicker than Barry Allen so that’s why they stay online with other lames just like them co signing being a grown man dikk watching. I bet these dudes dads would be ashamed to know how their sons moving online. I know my dad would if he heard me talking about why so and so fukking with this chick smfh.

 

[Youseenmywork]

I don’t take YouTube doctors seriously breh... like I said I only use YouTube for asmr and music.

if your mentor believes what ya? said that’s fine. As I’ve said before letting bm do and be with whomever they want without speaking against it or directing negative energy toward it, works favorably for y’all and for bw.

Letting BM

...Speaking out against against it or directing negative energy toward it , work favorably for y'all and bw

This though process is the sickness . First its many times my mentors and many men alike get in men's ass for a multitude of things. I will do that myself in my way in another thread that create . I believe my biggest lesson this year already is knowing who to have conversation with . I say that because most people aren't open minded especially black people. Many women and want to think the way they think and don't want it challenged ....even if their is enough books and documentation that they are wrong . You last comment really showed your ass with that comment because you think it work favorably for BM and you think I totality that what its about ? That dosent make you intelligent ....that makes you typical. In true feminist fashion the the man is at fault (one way or another ) and the women escapes being the victim . That's a fukk nikka mentality" go ahead and date out cause y'all doing a favor to" . All the while gaslighting black mens experiences like it anit shyt because the tone of your post is so smug / with a so want attitude but that's what your solution is ?????.....yeah black peoplenwe in trouble there is NO coming back as a people or a culture because black male experiences will always be our fault or made to feel small in the grand scheme of things but it's not and it shouldn't be . Especially the black males that have reasonable grips and concerns. There is no talking to people who anit open minded .

 

[Youseenmywork]

Due to all the female foolishness in this thread I actually have a pretty bad story to tell about me and another young lady Latino young lady when I was young .

 

[The Solid One]

Due to all the female foolishness in this thread I actually have a pretty bad story to tell about me and another young lady Latino young lady when I was young .

 

[philmonroe]

I really hate all this interracial shyt cause it’s damn near forced on us. It’s only black people being encouraged to date others and then openly disparage the black dating pool.

It aint being forced on nobody but get your pandering daps breh

 

[CarmelBarbie]

Letting BM

...Speaking out against against it or directing negative energy toward it , work favorably for y'all and bw

This though process is the sickness . First its many times my mentors and many men alike get in men's ass for a multitude of things. I will do that myself in my way in another thread that create . I believe my biggest lesson this year already is knowing who to have conversation with . I say that because most people aren't open minded especially black people. Many women and want to think the way they think and don't want it challenged ....even if their is enough books and documentation that they are wrong . You last comment really showed your ass with that comment because you think it work favorably for BM and you think I totality that what its about ? That dosent make you intelligent ....that makes you typical. In true feminist fashion the the man is at fault (one way or another ) and the women escapes being the victim . That's a fukk nikka mentality" go ahead and date out cause y'all doing a favor to" . All the while gaslighting black mens experiences like it anit shyt because the tone of your post is so smug / with a so want attitude but that's what your solution is ?????.....yeah black peoplenwe in trouble there is NO coming back as a people or a culture because black male experiences will always be our fault or made to feel small in the grand scheme of things but it's not and it shouldn't be . Especially the black males that have reasonable grips and concerns. There is no talking to people who anit open minded .

Let isn’t the proper word. But what Im saying is bm date who you want but can y’all stop negatively generalizing all bw. And bw stop focusing on bm that IR date and stop bashing and generalizing them. I don’t know what is smug about that suggestion. Earlier in this thread I provided what was told to me by men I’ve dated and those I know who have dated ww—they told me their experiences. I understood where they were coming from, but also recognize that some of these experiences and reasons have nothing to do with bw. Others do.

And for those that have had poor experiences, they didn’t have those with me.... I can’t control what other bw do, anymore than you can control what other bm do. So You can tell me all the things wrong with bw, and say some of those things are things that are wrong with me.... I can make those changes in myself but I cannot make those changes in other bw. So while I’ve changed, others haven’t, do you see the issue with that? It’s the same issue with any generalization, it doesn’t apply to everyone and it’s unfair to hold that individual accountable for every negative behavior those in their group practice. It’s something bw do to bm, and that bm do to bw. And we do it negatively, while making positive generalizations about “others”. I don’t blame bm or bw for that, I blame white conditioning. But I do acknowledge that many would rather look at the side effects then the source.

I have no control over other bw or bm, just myself. The amount and type of work needed to fix black relationships, and many of our issues across both genders is going to take everyone being on board, willing to do what it takes to make changes while also acknowledging the source of our issues. And not everyone can, not everyone wants to make changes and not everyone cares. Therefore the simple solution from my POV is to be the best person I can be as an individual, focus on people who know my worth and care about me, and not worry about people I don’t know and their dating habits.

The ONLY thing that is irritating is that people continue to generalize and bash one another, hence defensiveness and unproductive conversations.

 

[JT-Money]

If anyone has a problem with this we can settle it right now.

 

[jay83]

Real change starts with the kids now. Adults are to

my biggest lesson this year already is knowing who to have conversation with.

I say that because most people aren't open minded especially black people. Many women and want to think the way they think and don't want it challenged ....even if their is enough books and documentation that they are wrong . You last comment really showed your ass with that comment because you think it work favorably for BM and you think I totality that what its about ? That dosent make you intelligent ....that makes you typical. All the while gaslighting black mens experiences like it anit shyt because the tone of your post is so smug / with a so want attitude but that's what your solution is ?????.....yeah black peoplenwe in trouble there is NO coming back as a people or a culture because black male experiences will always be our fault or made to feel small in the grand scheme of things. There is no talking to people who anit open minded .

good post. Your first sentence I definitely agree. You can only have this conversation with certain people. A lot of folks and especially many women can’t admit when they are wrong or even admit that there might be a better way of doing something. Folks listen to respond instead of actually getting your perspective. This is the clap back era where you post smug retorts, memes, and reply with “ I said what I said” instead of trying to actually understand and come to a solution.

I was talking to a good female friend of mine who’s happily married and we discussed colorism. She admitted some things that women do to contribute to it and also some things that men do. But she didn’t blame black men for everything and I didn’t blame black women. It was a good conversation and productive. I also think because she’s in a good place in her life she wasn’t lashing out or or miserable. It was cool just two adults discussing a emotional topic yet it was civil and we both learned. Yet on the internet it’s just a damn finger pointing contest.

 

[Ya?]

Real change starts with the kids now. Adults are to


good post. Your first sentence I definitely agree. You can only have this conversation with certain people. A lot of folks and especially many women can’t admit when they are wrong or even admit that there might be a better way of doing something. Folks listen to respond instead of actually getting your perspective. This is the clap back era where you post smug retorts, memes, and reply with “ I said what I said” instead of trying to actually understand and come to a solution.

I was talking to a good female friend of mine who’s happily married and we discussed colorism. She admitted some things that women do to contribute to it and also some things that men do. But she didn’t blame black men for everything and I didn’t blame black women. It was a good conversation and productive. I also think because she’s in a good place in her life she wasn’t lashing out or or miserable. It was cool just two adults discussing a emotional topic yet it was civil and we both learned. Yet on the internet it’s just a damn finger pointing contest.

Key point you acknowledge a part that men play and she did the same.

that’s why I said IF this is just a circle jerk of blaming women Or vice versa then there will never be a meeting of the minds.

To reduce black issues to feminity or lack thereof of BW is extremely shortsighted. That’s my main caveat. Feminity thrives in environment where Men has in control but that’s a whole other conversation. The coli can give you a rap sheet about how BM are limited by white supremacy while expecting BW to be angelic beings in the same toxic environment. No empathy, no willingness to understand the others plight or attempt to lessen each other’s burden.