Stephen Espinoza: 3 months ago, we offered Arum $40 million with 35% PPV and they havent accepted

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How come everyone believing Espinoza all of a sudden? When Greenberg said it was because of floyd the fight wasn't happening, everyone said not to believe him. So what makes one executive more believable than the other?
 

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So after Marquez passes on a fight with Pac 1st...then Maidana passes on a fight with Pac t.. Provodnikov gets beat by Algeiri and him becoming 140 champ and gets the fight, How is it because of his whiteness that he gets the fight?? @Jello Biafra

How come everyone believing Espinoza all of a sudden? When Greenberg said it was because of floyd the fight wasn't happening, everyone said not to believe him. So what makes one executive more believable than the other?

nikkas be real selective on who they choose to believe where it fits their argument or agenda...
 

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Nah breh :ufdup: we're going off both their last fights, which were both on ppv in Vegas.. CURRENTLY they're close in drawing power. And when you consider Maidana should be a much bigger draw than Bradley it makes you think :patrice: 65/35 is unacceptable right now :manny:



Nobody cares about floyd being undefeated or who has been champion longer. Or his ppv numbers 8 years ago when he wasn't even A side. how many times did Floyd have to get his straps back again after toss them in the bushes multiple times?? We can go down this route if you want.

RIGHT NOW.. fighting in Vegas on ppv they're around the same with Floyd being slightly higher looking at the numbers.. Like I told dumbass above you, 35% is unacceptable at this point in Pac career. . We want that backend, Floydie wont budge.. even after being offered $50 to $100 million :ld:

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So, Maidana who hadnt fought as the headliner on PPV until he fought Floyd, is a bigger attraction than Bradley who headlined 2 PPV's prior to the PAC rematch? :troll:

Why should Maidana be a much bigger draw than Bradley, my Phillipino breh?:yeshrug:

Pac and Arum need to stop ducking
 

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So, Maidana who hadnt fought as the headliner on PPV until he fought Floyd, is a bigger attraction than Bradley who headlined 2 PPV's prior to the PAC rematch? :troll:

Why should Maidana be a much bigger draw than Bradley, my Phillipino breh?:yeshrug:

Pac and Arum need to stop ducking
aint nobody ducking.. we standing our ground.. 35% (which is probably a lie anyway) is still unacceptable looking at Pac and Floyd last ppv numbers... I didn't say Maidana was a "much" bigger draw, but being the substitute Mexican Floydie needs coming off a win vs a loudmouth wanna be welterweight who has a pretty nice draw himself. His draw should be a little bigger than Bradley.. Floydie and Maidana did only slightly better than Pac/Bradley :ld:
 

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So after Marquez passes on a fight with Pac 1st...then Maidana passes on a fight with Pac t.. Provodnikov gets beat by Algeiri and him becoming 140 champ and gets the fight, How is it because of his whiteness that he gets the fight?? @Jello Biafra



nikkas be real selective on who they choose to believe where it fits their argument or agenda...
:usure: You know damn well that they only threw Algieri into the spotlight because he is a clean cut, American white dude. Bob saw them $ signs and propelled Algieri to the moon. It's not even like Algieri was impressive in the win over Prov...it was a disputed split decision.
Plus they were talking about Abregu and a couple other dudes before anyone even heard of Algieri that.
 

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:usure: You know damn well that they only threw Algieri into the spotlight because he is a clean cut, American white dude. Bob saw them $ signs and propelled Algieri to the moon. It's not even like Algieri was impressive in the win over Prov...it was a disputed split decision.
Plus they were talking about Abregu and a couple other dudes before anyone even heard of Algieri that.
Everything you're saying is tru... Still dont change the FACT that Algeiri and Abregu were Plan C and D.. All im saying is nikkas act like options weren't exhausted first
 

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Everything you're saying is tru... Still dont change the FACT that Algeiri and Abregu were Plan C and D.. All im saying is nikkas act like options weren't exhausted first
I agree with that one...there are very few PPV worthy options for Manny in the TR stable.
 

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I agree with that one...there are very few PPV worthy options for Manny in the TR stable.


smartest thing you have said all year.......... :blessed:

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So, Maidana who hadnt fought as the headliner on PPV until he fought Floyd, is a bigger attraction than Bradley who headlined 2 PPV's prior to the PAC rematch? :troll:

Why should Maidana be a much bigger draw than Bradley, my Phillipino breh?:yeshrug:

Pac and Arum need to stop ducking
aint nobody ducking.. we standing our ground.. 35% (which is probably a lie anyway) is still unacceptable looking at Pac and Floyd last ppv numbers... I didn't say Maidana was a "much" bigger draw, but being the substitute Mexican Floydie needs coming off a win vs a loudmouth wanna be welterweight who has a pretty nice draw himself. His draw should be a little bigger than Bradley.. Floydie and Maidana did only slightly better than Pac/Bradley :ld:
And when you consider Maidana should be a much bigger draw than Bradley it makes you think :patrice: 65/35 is unacceptable right now :manny:


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I said Maidana SHOULD'VE been(should be) a bigger draw than Bradley.. im not sure what you're trying to point out. I guess you're illiterate?

I guess you must be illiterate too my pinoy breh, Look up :deadmanny::pachaha:

Why should Maidana be a much bigger draw than Bradley, my Phillipino breh?:yeshrug:

Pac and Arum need to stop ducking


I appreciate that english isnt your first language :snoop:
 
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I guess you must be illiterate too my pinoy breh, Look up :deadmanny::pachaha:




I appreciate that english isnt your first language :snoop:

I said Maidana should be a much bigger draw than Bradley...

You said why should he be a much bigger draw

I then posted why he should be a bigger draw.

you're trying way too hard.. Are you stupid or something?:ld:
 
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