Stephen Espinoza: 3 months ago, we offered Arum $40 million with 35% PPV and they havent accepted

[ucanthandlethetruth]

2-2 in your last 4 fights, you offered 40 million and a 35% PPV cut.....and no acceptance?



I aint sipping no tea on this one. This straight "Amistad Black" coffee, because I wanna be alert while reading the excuses

watching @Black_Jesus make excuses to that ether in this thread is priceless
I always said top rank was the ones who been ducking this fight but damn espinoza blowing the spot with the ppv is the smoking gun

In regards to the Manny/Floyd discussions I like to think I'm pretty impartial, I don't have a dog in this fight. I go in on both stans when they go on with there bs but this is clearly on Arum. I won't even say it's on Manny because he is always on that "up to my promoter" shyt.

isnt that excuse convenient though? manny could have done more to make this fight especially when his contract was up with TR he deserves culpability as well.

 

[Black_Jesus]

At the end of the day.. All you nikkas are gonna believe what you want to believe without having all the facts or hearing more than one side... Crazy nobody hasn't even considered that Espinoza could be holding back details of the negotiations or possibly lying.. but I forget.. Bob Arum is the only person who lies in boxing.. Everyone else os telling the truth

 

[GzUp]

Keep in mind show time did force Floyd to fight canelo

 

[Jello Biafra]

I am curious as to why Espinoza would be reaching out to Arum instead of Ken Hershman since the logistics of where the fight would air (HBO PPV, Showtime PPV or a joint venture) is not something that Arum has any say over since Manny is under contract to fight on HBO exclusively.
Not to say that I am defending Arum because he is a duplicitous scumbag but Espinoza has shown himself to be a bit of whiny bytch who cries on Twitter like a 13 year old white girl.

And we are not even mentioning the promotional hurdles since the last word Floyd had on this prospective fight was that it would have to be a Mayweather Promotions event which seems like a major sticking point too.

This just seems like more posturing to look good publicly (this time by Espinoza) which has been everybody's problem who is involved in this. No one wants to be seen as the reason the fight isn't happening so they all make public statements pushing blame onto the other side when the best chance of getting this fight done would be for everyone to keep their fukking mouths shut and go behind closed doors and hammer a deal out like adult business people.

 

[Big Boss]

Espinoza is the one writing the checks nikka

And then you had people saying showtime force floyd to fight canelo

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

a negroe and a Pino getting screwed by the you know who..

 

[mr. smoke weed]

whats this showtime forced floyd to fight canelo jazz?

 

[1986]

I don't trust any of these dudes... Espinosa been a bytch, so I won't take his word for granted. Both sides need to stop being such bytches (cause both sides have had excuses) and get this fight over with to be honest.

 

[Skip b]

I don't trust any of these dudes... Espinosa been a bytch, so I won't take his word for granted. Both sides need to stop being such bytches (cause both sides have had excuses) and get this fight over with to be honest.

The bytch in this scenario is fighting a bum ass MMA fighter on PPV at that

 

[GzUp]

whats this showtime forced floyd to fight canelo jazz?

Wasn't really forced but really pushed.. They want numbers and he wasn't delivering, they hit him with the

 

[1986]

The bytch in this scenario is fighting a bum ass MMA fighter on PPV at that

Both of them have pushed themselves into a corner where they only have garbage opponents left to fight. Its disgusting to see cause we as boxing fans are missing out on great fights over big egos and greed. They should've fought at least twice by now...

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

yet AL HAYMON will still be perceived as the devil......smh

PAC fans are delusional

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

I guess they want a bigger split of ppv revenue then... But I find it funny how everyone including Floyd claimed Pac and Arum were lying about negotiations taking place(second time he lied about negotiations btw) Now Espinosa says they did in fact make an offer...

Me personally I think the offer should be at least 55/45 or at least 60/40.. 2-2 has nothing to do with discussion btw.. They're going off drawing power and Floyd last ppv only beat out manny by a couple hundred thousand.

And besides, even if you want to believe Floyd accepts a 50/50 purse split(65/35 ppv split) with Pac and Arum (who he vows never to do buisnes) you still dont have all the facts and you still only hearing one side...

@Newzz I know you're enjoying this right now so cook away without having all the facts..

Be real super baised and selective about who's lying and telling the truth brehs

Only a couple hundred thousand more ppvs, you're very objective.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Only a couple hundred thousand more ppvs, you're very objective.

I am objective... 65/35 ppv split is a near 2 to 1 ratio which is bullshyt since Floydie only did a couple hundred thousand more. He didn't double Pacs ppvs even with all the names on his card.. If you do the math.. split should be at best 55/45

 

[merklman]

I am objective... 65/35 ppv split is a near 2 to 1 ratio which is bullshyt since Floydie only did a couple hundred thousand more. He didn't double Pacs ppvs even with all the names on his card.. If you do the math.. split should be at best 55/45

Names on the card? Who?
Just on that last PPV? How about the one before when he did 3 x as much? and the previous one to that which was 2x as much? What about the big disparity in gate receipts?


Pac/Arum are shook, simple as that