Stephen A. Smith goes IN on Colin Keapernick for not voiting

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Honestly anyone agreeing with SAS's point isnt even worth my time. Mustve just been waiting for any reason to shyt on his movement
whats funny to me STILL is this, "we love ALI, Malcolm, Huey etc etc."

get a muthafukka in the modern era reppin the same way and its

"fukk this guy!" :camby:


be fake and cowardly brehs:hahapaul:
 

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You don't know what was on his ballot:stopitslime:




Again you are making all this up, you have no idea what was on his voting ballot.

It's very ok NOT to vote, if you have nothing to vote for.


Like what specifically on his ballot?

Props to @Optimus Prime for posting this (on page 2)

Assuming he lives in San Fran, there was 24 measures up for vote and a few of them are directly related to what he said he was going to do in the community...

Election 2016: Latest results on state, local, federal races

Housing upgrades
Yes: 75.9%No: 24.1%
597 / 597 precincts reporting
Amends existing $250 million bond loan program for seismic upgrades, to include loans for the acquisition and development of affordable housing.
Requires two-thirds vote.

Youth vote
Yes: 47.3%No: 52.7%
597 / 597 precincts reporting
Allows 16- and 17-year-olds to vote in municipal elections.

Police oversight
Yes: 79.8%No: 20.2%
597 / 597 precincts reporting
Transforms the Office of Citizen Complaints into the Department of Police Accountability, which would conduct reviews of how the Police Department and Police Commission handle allegations of officer misconduct.

Neighborhood crime unit
Yes: 45.5%No: 54.5%
597 / 597 precincts reporting
Requires the creation of a neighborhood crime unit in the Police Department.

Affordable housing
Yes: 35.1%No: 64.9%
597 / 597 precincts reporting
Raises maximum income level for qualifying for subsidized affordable housing.

Transfer tax
Yes: 61.9%No: 38.1%
597 / 597 precincts reporting
Increases transfer taxes on higher-value properties. Backers want to use money to pay for free community college and street trees.

Superior Court Judge, office 7

PLUS California had legalizing weed up to vote


You telling me none of those issues were worth his vote?


this is true, but how much say do the people have in what goes on their ballots or the legislature that even gets brought to a ballot?

besides the issues your politicians have chosen and designed to their will, how much say do the people have? you only see 1% of the end game on that ballot.

politicians will have an empty town hall meeting to get the opinions of old people on gentrifying their neighborhood, make promises to get votes and then sell them off for the highest bidder. thats just one example of how little impact people actually have in their neighborhoods and on these legislations. maybe he has a problem with that. maybe he aint fukkin with that.

You make your issues known to the elected officials who represent your community. They then work in a city/district/state level to get those issues addressed. I totally understand you & others who are frustrated with the system but that's how change begins on a local level.

I don't expect white folks or the system to change and history has shown that it wont. that's the difference between our positions. You have faith in them and the system. I do not. Colin does not. We are still talking about the same issues we been voting on for 50+ years. They have let you know repeatedly they don't think your life matters.. It's about time you believe them.

Again there are more than just politicians on the ballot. Are you against voting for changes that would directly impact our community like the ones I posted that Colin could have voted on? Colin is a hypocrite for this one breh
 

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Why do y'all keep saying this shyt about 2 parties? Millions of Americans despised BOTH candidates and either wrote in a candidate or went with the Green Party or Libertarian Party candidate.
are these parties not part of a political system that's broken? Or did you just feel like typing that by all means. For argument sake what what were any of those candidates proposing that would entice working class ethnic minorities? Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are life long republicans calling once self libertarian one morning doesn't change shyt.

Also, your ballot consists of other people to vote for on a state & local government level as well as votes on tax allocation, transportation and other civic issues. Please tell me y'all aren't dumb enough to believe you go to the polls just to vote for the President
dude for most of congress and Senate's existence it's been occupied by the 2 parties irrespective of how many parties there are in politics. Before election day republicans held most of those seats and after election day republicans hold most of those seats. I will hold off on the insults females often resort to that when they get emotional why you are about this only heaven knows
 

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There's a couple there he should have voted on, if that is in fact his ballot.

Nothing I can say about that, but still the main criticism from Stephen A and others is about voting for President. And I still don't think voting is the best way to personally impart change.

He could have voted for school funding, or he could go fund some schools. he is choosing the later. Not choosing the former does not discredit what he is doing.
 

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You make your issues known to the elected officials who represent your community. They then work in a city/district/state level to get those issues addressed. I totally understand you & others who are frustrated with the system but that's how change begins on a local level.

i can vote and still have no control over whatever decision my politician makes. my politician can lie to me and do anything they want. im not getting what you dont understand about that.

i am from of one of the most poorest areas in atlanta and have seen my parents house value drop tremendously, be flooded with section 8 vouchers to lower property value for developers to build nice as houses that none of the old residents can afford and all of my schools i went to have plummeted in quality (either no longer exist or horrible teachers/materials/funding, my high school barely could afford a yearbook, shyt was fukking terrible). this area is largely democrat and always has been and has been deteriorating from the moment i was born, literally. please tell me how my parents voting these past +25 years has helped them.

its like you guys dont live in reality at all.
 
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i can vote and still have no control over whatever decision my politician makes. my politician can lie to me and do anything they want. im not getting what you dont understand about that.

i am from of one of the most poorest areas in atlanta and have seen my parents house value drop tremendously, be flooded with section 8 vouchers to lower property value for developers to build nice as houses that none of the old residents can afford and all of my schools i went to have plummeted in quality (either no longer exist or horrible teachers/materials/funding, my high school barely could afford a yearbook, shyt was fukking terrible). this area is largely democrat and always has been and has been deteriorating from the moment i was born, literally. please tell me how my parents voting these past +25 years has helped them.

its like you guys dont live in reality at all.

Maybe your parents and the constituants did a poor job of backing local candidates who could have made a difference.

It's not always the fault of the political process. We need to also look in the mirror and see who we pick as our candidates. I grew up in a shyt hole of Franklin Avenue, BK. Like...thugged out 80s FAP
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But when I turned a few corners and go into the jewish part of my hood, it wasn't a hood at all. The political bought and paid for process was made to work for them.

I don't think we've used it to our advantage but would rather use that outcome to blame the political process rather than blaming our lack of working to make the political process work for us like other groups.
 

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Maybe your parents and the constituants did a poor job of backing local candidates who could have made a difference.

It's not always the fault of the political process. We need to also look in the mirror and see who we pick as our candidates. I grew up in a shyt hole of Franklin Avenue, BK. Like...thugged out 80s FAP
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But when I turned a few corners and go into the jewish part of my hood, it wasn't a hood at all. The political bought and paid for process was made to work for them.

I don't think we've used it to our advantage but would rather use that outcome to blame the political process rather than blaming our lack of working to make the political process work for us like other groups.

nikka what? yo realize this is happening in black neighborhoods across the country? right? so it's not just my parents or my neighborhood, its not just the constituents that are off. its the fukking system. its fukked up.

middle class black people like you are simply blind and you suffer from the same blindness ass middle class liberal whites which is why trump surprised many of you. you keep denying the existence of whats actually happening in the face of rhetoric that is failing across the country.

i pray to god i never become a hoity toity nikka that says to poor people "maybe you should vote for someone else blah blah blah, it works for the jews". nikka am i a jew? wth are you talking about lol you're telling poor people to play the game, where the hell are we supposed to get money to play? gimme some of the 300K salary you was talking about earlier in here. act like a jew and buy some political clout for my community then. you aint even gettin no where with that 300k. any politican can be bought out point blank and this has been happening for decades in poor african american communities and you do nothing more than spew rhetoric.
 
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nikka what? yo realize this is happening in black neighborhoods across the country? right? so it's not just my parents or my neighborhood, its not just the constituents that are off. its the fukking system. its fukked up.

middle class black people like you are simply blind and you suffer from the same blindness ass middle class liberal whites which is why trump surprised many of you. you keep denying the existence of whats actually happening in the face of rhetoric that is failing across the country.

i pray to god i never become a hoity toity nikka that says to poor people "maybe you should vote for someone else blah blah blah, it works for the jews". nikka am i a jew? wth are you talking about lol you're telling poor people to play the game, where the hell are we supposed to get money to play? gimme some of the 300K salary you was talking about earlier in here. act like a jew and buy some political clout for my community then.
I have fam in that area of ATL too that are being pushed out by the building of the new stadium.

You call me blind when I'm getitng my masters in Public Policy because I want to help those that need help. You saying "blah blah blah" is that very reason why we are fukked up.

Your inability to even take a peak into the process and see if its possible to make change says it all. Be real here....your parents, like mines, likely weren't politically active. Did you as a child go to local town halls to meet with prospective politicians? I know I didn't. My dad was a Nigerian politician yet didn't even have me invested in the process here (he was too busy back in nigeria ignoring my family here in the states). They, like my parents, are only there to complain about the shytty outcome produced by a process they never involved themselves in. You continue to follow that trend by going "blah blah blah" instead of having enough :ohhh: in your system to find out how it works.

That's where I'm at now. I want to have a vested interest in using it as a vehicle to make change rather than sit there and complain.
 
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I have fam in that area of ATL too that are being pushed out by the building of the new stadium.

You call me blind when I'm getitng my masters in Public Policy because I want to help those that need help. You saying "blah blah blah" is that very reason why we are fukked up.

Your inability to even take a peak into the process and see if its possible to make change says it all. Be real here....your parents, like mines, likely weren't politically active, when to local town halls to meet with prospective politicians. They, like my parents, are only there to complain about the shytty outcome produced by a process they never involved themselves in. You continue to follow that trend by going "blah blah blah" instead of having enough :ohhh: in your system to find out how it works.

That's where I'm at now. I want to have a vested interest in using it as a vehicle to make change rather than sit there and complain.
what area of atl? i aint even say what part so stop trying to fake the funk with me. :stopitslime:

nikka im getting my masters so i can educate our future on the possibilities of programming, computers, design and art. i barely made it out my hood and had to stay mad focused and hella community involved parents to do that so miss me with that shyt as well.

ability to peak at the process? wtf are you even saying. more fukking rhetoric. whats peaking at the process? you know i used to intern for john lewis while i was in high school? i seen the schmoozing contrast with the lack of action up close. tf are you talking about. you generalize me just like any other white person, why? cause i get why people dont feel comfortable voting for suits after decades of oppression in a supposed "post-segregation" society? where is cynthina mckinney? my parents and i campaigned for her actively when i was younger. she was great, but any black politician who does not fall in line with the old guard led by money is shunned out of politics just as she was. not that i actively agree with her decisions, but she was railroaded simply for telling something that we all know to be true today what do you think happened to new politicians? most of the are getting down or laying down. you prob believe in the CBC too dont you?

gonna be great when you or either your grand kids get that wake up call for you inactivity on calling out our farce of a political system. :hubie:
 
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what area of atl? i aint even say what part so stop trying to fake the funk with me. :stopitslime:

nikka im getting my masters so i can educate our future on the possibilities of programming, computers, design and art. i barely made it out my hood and had to stay mad focused and hella community involved parents to do that so miss me with that shyt as well.

ability to peak at the process? wtf are you even saying. more fukking rhetoric. whats peaking at the process? you know i used to intern for john lewis while i was in high school? i seen the schmoozing contrast with the lack of action up close. tf are you talking about. you generalize me just like any other white person, why? cause i get why people dont feel comfortable voting for suits after decades of oppression in a supposed "post-segregation" society?

gonna be great when you or either your grand kids get that wake up call for you inactivity on calling out our farce of a political system. :hubie:
My fam live on the outskirts of the current stadium...not too far from there. They told me about the displacement, so I'm piggybacking off of what they told me.

And this hotep "wake up call" as if I'm in some delusional stupor about my stature as a black man in this county. My grand kids will be alright because they have a home back in Nigeria to fall back on as well as being educated at the best schools in the Northeast. They will be alright.

Again....don't decry the system you obviously have no insights on. You didn't grow up around the process. Be real. You don't even understand the political process. You're just whining about its shytty outcome. I'm not denying the shytty outcome, but to me its like shytty black churches people go to. Don't blame the church....pick a better one. They exist. Black folks need to pick better politicians.

I sit here and see other groups come in and make the political process work for their local communities. I understand the disillusionment we carry for the political process seeing how it didn't work for us. But I also see the Adam Clayton Powell Jrs of the world who helped build up Harlem, join the House and Ways committee and have an impact and ask myself why isn't that replicated. The person that followed him was Charlie Rangel who had ignored the work of ACP who left a chance for local Harlem residents to buy the then empty brownstones at a $1 a piece but chose not to. Now look at current day Harlem where outsiders swooped in and bought those homes and changing the face of the neighborhood.

Whose fault is that?

This isn't rhetoric. We can produce citizen intiatives that benefit local communities but it requires community involvement. But there's too much "blah blah blah" from people defeated by the shytty outcome rather than opening their ears to understanding how the process works.
 

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My fam live on the outskirts of the current stadium...not too far from there. They told me about the displacement, so I'm piggybacking off of what they told me.

And this hotep "wake up call" as if I'm in some delusional stupor about my stature as a black man in this county. My grand kids will be alright because they have a home back in Nigeria to fall back on as well as being educated at the best schools in the Northeast. They will be alright.

Again....don't decry the system you obviously have no insights on. You didn't grow up around the process. Be real. You don't even understand the political process. You're just whining about its shytty outcome. I'm not denying the shytty outcome, but to me its like shytty black churches people go to. Don't blame the church....pick a better one. They exist. Black folks need to pick better politicians.

I sit here and see other groups come in and make the political process work for their local communities. I understand the disillusionment we carry for the political process seeing how it didn't work for us. But I also see the Adam Clayton Powell Jrs of the world who helped build up Harlem, join the House and Ways committee and have an impact and ask myself why isn't that replicated. The person that followed him was Charlie Rangel who had ignored the work of ACP who left a chance for local Harlem residents to buy the then empty brownstones at a $1 a piece but chose not to. Now look at current day Harlem where outsiders swooped in and bought those homes and changing the face of the neighborhood.

Whose fault is that?

This isn't rhetoric. We can produce citizen intiatives that benefit local communities but it requires community involvement. But there's too much "blah blah blah" from people defeated by the shytty outcome rather than opening their ears to understanding how the process works.
hotep wake up call? dude. stop your genrealizations. i hate hoteps. you see every generalization you keep throwing at me based on this stupid narrative you have doesnt fit right? you watch too much tv my dude. i dont even wanna argue with you bc instead of talking about fact, i have to spend my time discounting all of your misaligned conjecture based on your stereotype (that you got from white mainstream society) that just bc idgaf about a congressman that i know nothing else.

you clearly sip a lot of fukking kool aid so ill let you do your thing and even add more sugar for you: god bless anyone who trusts you just because you have a "masters in public policy" :mjlol:
 

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hotep wake up call? dude. stop your genrealizations. i hate hoteps. you see every generalization you keep throwing at me based on this stupid narrative you have doesnt fit right? you watch too much tv my dude. i dont even wanna argue with you bc instead of talking about fact, i have to spend my time discounting all of your misaligned conjecture based on your stereotype (that you got from white mainstream society) that just bc idgaf about a congressman that i know nothing else.

you clearly sip a lot of fukking kool aid so ill let you do your thing and even add more sugar for you: god bless anyone who trusts you just because you have a "masters in public policy" :mjlol:
I don't need a "wake up call" bruh.

You can't even tell me the kool aid I'm sipping when I haven't aligned myself to a party of any kind. I just believe that we can use the political process as a vehicle to effect change while believing you don't know shyt about the political process. I come from an African family that was deep into politics. Why the hell do I need the white mainstream to tell me anything about politics and how to make it work when I've seen blacks in worse positions in 3rd world countries make it work for them? I'm now not allowed to have the same expectations of kin folks here?

Look at your response....you didn't even bother to respond to anything I posted other than being offended that I called you a hotep.
 

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I don't need a "wake up call" bruh.

You can't even tell me the kool aid I'm sipping when I haven't aligned myself to a party of any kind. I just believe that we can use the political process as a vehicle to effect change.

Look at your response....you didn't even bother to respond to anything I posted other than being offended that I called you a hotep.
i tried to have a conversation with you. you insulted me over and over and over and then asked why i didn't read your whole post? even made conjecture about my lovely parents after i personally beared to you what's happening in my community. maybe i aint into abuse and fukk nikka-ism. :dahell: peace fool.
 

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i tried to have a conversation with you. you insulted me over and over and over and then asked why i didn't read your whole post? even made conjecture about my lovely parents. maybe i aint into abuse and fukk nikka-ism. :dahell: peace fool.
Bullshyt.

I made one reference.

Let's be real....most of our parents had no vested interest in local politics of any kind. My dad was too busy off in another country while my mom was trying to get by. That was the case for most of us.

My dad was the last person to get shyt done in his hometown, and that was back 14 years ago....and I have to go home and hear folks tell me he was the last one who made it work. No....it's not on him and who was elected...it's on you and who you chose. Now you think its criminal that I carry the same expectations of kin folks here?

Nah....I'm going to be real about it. Use the process to make it work...don't blame its existence and say it never worked. We aren't vested enough in it to make it work.
 
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