Stephen A. Smith goes IN on Colin Keapernick for not voiting

[NYC Rebel]

It amazes me how folks who've had the least understanding of the political process have the most to say with regards to how it's never worked for us.

 

[Everythingg]

That's certainly his right. But I think he has to understand that people are gonna criticize him for not completely being a part of truly solving the issues in our society

I think the problem is that those who are disagreeing with your position, are saying that a "vote" isnt going to remove the hate from a hateful cacs heart. So what exactly is it going to help? Someone pointed out funding for public schools but when I asked "why would blacks come together to SEND their children to be educated by the SAME SYSTEM that has told them they hate blacks for the last 400 years?" Got no answer of course

Where do you say I went wrong with this line of thinking? Will voting remove the hate this establishment has shown blacks for the last 400 years? Will a vote cause the establishment to move out the way and allow blacks to freely progress educationally, spiritually, financially, and physically? My answer is no. They might throw some bread crumbs, but FREE progression like most cacs got? Nah. A vote aint allowing that to happen. So Im not sure why brehs are getting on Kap for not voting when history proves him right. No matter who is in office, life for blacks doesnt get better (or gets better in something that amounts to bread crumbs)

 

[SunZoo]

A non vote can be just as impactful as vote.

The idea that everybody HAS to vote is not freedom or democracy.

People don't understand this, the MAJORITY. You put somebody else in play that could capture a little over half that crowd and both of these scumbags could have been sent home. People are sick of the shell game and to me the non-votes say more than begrudgingly electing someone you can't stand or trust.

 

[Roman Brady]

Then write in someone you believe in. That was the point of making that statement.

he clearly doesn't believe in any politician, is that not possible in your world?

And as I've tried to make clear to y'all, there are more issues to vote on than who the next President is. Do you even care to be informed enough to know what those issues are? We're the only race of people to say "the system is broken! The system is broken!" and then do nothing to activate any type of change fix it

do you think politics is like ordering fast-food? it's very seldom working class folk get what they voted for, whether on the local level or presidential level, you sound brand new breh

 

[joeychizzle]

Breh one of the guys who works in the factory was telling me how his kid who's 11 was having a mock election in class. And there is flyers everywhere and commercials on tv all the time. Hows it where you live around election time?

Not American breh. Most of what I see about Trump where I live is either memes or videos of him talking mad greasy shyt about different demographics.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Complain about the system but not vote to change the system brehs

 

[bigrice25]

Complain about the system but not vote to change the system brehs

Don't understand that voting maybe part of the system being complained about brehs......

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Complain about the system but not vote to change the system brehs

What about this is funny?

 

[AVXL]

I think the problem is that those who are disagreeing with your position, are saying that a "vote" isnt going to remove the hate from a hateful cacs heart. So what exactly is it going to help? Someone pointed out funding for public schools but when I asked "why would blacks come together to SEND their children to be educated by the SAME SYSTEM that has told them they hate blacks for the last 400 years?" Got no answer of course

I think the problem is that black people have been disenfranchised and flat out denied the right to vote for centuries. Now that we have the right to vote, on a whole range of issues not just politicians, you have people like you and Kaep who are so cynical that you are disenfranchising yourself. You literally are refusing to be a part of the process of how things get done in your local community. So when things don't get better in your community I don't wanna hear shyt you or anybody who thinks like you has to say.

Where do you say I went wrong with this line of thinking? Will voting remove the hate this establishment has shown blacks for the last 400 years? Will a vote cause the establishment to move out the way and allow blacks to freely progress educationally, spiritually, financially, and physically? My answer is no. They might throw some bread crumbs, but FREE progression like most cacs got? Nah. A vote aint allowing that to happen. So Im not sure why brehs are getting on Kap for not voting when history proves him right. No matter who is in office, life for blacks doesnt get better (or gets better in something that amounts to bread crumbs)

As I've said, voting is one tool available for communities to effect change. Voting by itself won't solve everything, but it is a vital step in that process. As for Kaep, he has a greater responsibility as someone serious about the conditions in our communities to fulfill his civic duties and vote on issues that impact our community. It's not just about the President

he clearly doesn't believe in any politician, is that not possible in your world? do you think politics is like ordering fast-food? it's very seldom working class folk get what they voted for, whether on the local level or presidential level, you sound brand new breh

Do you realize there are other issues to vote on besides President on a ballot? shyt read my posts in this thread @Optimus Prime posted what was on the ballot that he could've voted on that has an impact on our community. His decision not to vote is inexcusable

The bolded part doesn't even make sense. You non voters who are so ignorant to the system that you make up blanket statement lies to justify your ignorance. Please do some research breh

 

[AVXL]

Kevin Blackistone of The Washington Post (also appears on Around the Horn on ESPN) wrote a great article about Kaep not voting and included this gem from Malcolm X on voting

Malcolm X would be disappointed.

After all, in what many historians considered not only Malcolm X’s greatest speech, but one of the most notable political speeches of the last century, Malcolm X broke with the dictum of the black American Muslim movement in the middle 1960s and argued why black Americans should participate in electoral politics. He did so after witnessing what voting blocs of newly independent African nations had done for their consideration on the world stage.

“The black man in the black community has to be re-educated into the science of politics so he will know what politics is supposed to bring him in return,” Malcolm X told an audience on April 3, 1964, at Cory Methodist Church in Cleveland in a speech titled ‘The Ballot or the Bullet.’ “Don’t be throwing out any ballots. A ballot is like a bullet.”

 

[SuaveHooper88]

Man please

You do realize that you have the right to not vote


Why vote out of obligation, tradition and fear?

Exactly.

I was a Stephen A Smith fan, but he lost me as a fan after watching the video. Dude is brainwashed.

 

[Everythingg]

I think the problem is that black people have been disenfranchised and flat out denied the right to vote for centuries. Now that we have the right to vote, on a whole range of issues not just politicians, you have people like you and Kaep who are so cynical that you are disenfranchising yourself. You literally are refusing to be a part of the process of how things get done in your local community. So when things don't get better in your community I don't wanna hear shyt you or anybody who thinks like you has to say.

Refusing to be a part of the process of how things get done? So you're saying blacks HAVE to vote to better their communities and cant take the steps that people such as Rosewood/Black Walstreet did by taking it ON THEMSELVES to better their situations? And this aint a "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" position. Im just making the point that things dont get done by begging your oppressors to help you. How may black slaves you think was begging massa to stop splitting up his families and whipping him, removing his true names for names of Bill and Johnson? You'd think slavery, the tuskogee experiments, destruction of thriving black communities like Blackwallstreet which were SELF sufficient, the splintering of social movements such as the Civil rights movement and black panther party, the dismissal of police killing of innocent blacks on CAMERA such as Garner and Tamir Rice etc.. would CLEARLY establish to blacks that this place they are in does not in any way shape or form fukk with them. But no. People still think if they go to the table and ask nicely, the system will love them and care for their progress. You're fooling yourself breh... The most they'll give you is CRUMBS

As I've said, voting is one tool available for communities to effect change. Voting by itself won't solve everything, but it is a vital step in that process. As for Kaep, he has a greater responsibility as someone serious about the conditions in our communities to fulfill his civic duties and vote on issues that impact our community. It's not just about the President

"Communities"? Sure. Black communities? Absolutely not. But hey, maybe you can point out some instances where blacks voted and things got better for them. I dont even know what issues are worth blacks coming together to vote for that they couldnt do on their own. Maybe roads and stuff like that, but schooling? Nah. Blacks shouldnt be sending their kids to an establishment that has REPEATEDLY shown itself to despise blacks, to learn and grow lol. Kinda ridiculous if you sit down and think about it.

 

[5010]

That's certainly his right. But I think he has to understand that people are gonna criticize him for not completely being a part of truly solving the issues in our society

I'm willing to bet the majority of those critics also responded to him taking a knee as being a disrespectful piece of shyt. That he "should just shut up, stay out of politics and be happy that he make bazillions of dollars playing football."

So basically, who cares what they have to say? He can't win with those people no matter his stance.

Nonvoters simply shouldn't COMPLAIN. He said neither would have addressed issues that affect him the most. I respect that answer.

 

[lutha]

Refusing to be a part of the process of how things get done? So you're saying blacks HAVE to vote to better their communities and cant take the steps that people such as Rosewood/Black Walstreet did by taking it ON THEMSELVES to better their situations? And this aint a "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" position. Im just making the point that things dont get done by begging your oppressors to help you. How may black slaves you think was begging massa to stop splitting up his families and whipping him, removing his true names for names of Bill and Johnson? You'd think slavery, the tuskogee experiments, destruction of thriving black communities like Blackwallstreet which were SELF sufficient, the splintering of social movements such as the Civil rights movement and black panther party, the dismissal of police killing of innocent blacks on CAMERA such as Garner and Tamir Rice etc.. would CLEARLY establish to blacks that this place they are in does not in any way shape or form fukk with them. But no. People still think if they go to the table and ask nicely, the system will love them and care for their progress. You're fooling yourself breh... The most they'll give you is CRUMBS



"Communities"? Sure. Black communities? Absolutely not. But hey, maybe you can point out some instances where blacks voted and things got better for them. I dont even know what issues are worth blacks coming together to vote for that they couldnt do on their own. Maybe roads and stuff like that, but schooling? Nah. Blacks shouldnt be sending their kids to an establishment that has REPEATEDLY shown itself to despise blacks, to learn and grow lol. Kinda ridiculous if you sit down and think about it.

that's the thing: it doesnt have to be one or the other...it's not a this or that situation...voting and doing for self, go hand and hand when it comes to bettering the community....yes, get out there, put boots on the ground, and help better it yourself...but also, go vote people into positions (not just the president) and on policies that will help make it better...

ex: you talk about schools....unless you plan on funding the schools with materials, facilities, teachers, etc. that the kids need by yourself, you need to vote to put people in office that see it the same way you do...

 

[Easy-E]

My position is simple; Colin's impact towards fixing police accountability > Peggy Sue who voted for Hilary.

People are brainwashed into thinking political participation starts and ends at voting.

I interned in a Senator's office on Capital Hill. And I can tell you; it's not that simple. Do people know what lobbyist are?

That said; we all know SAS is a dense fink ESPN lets off the leash on race topics-- He knows his place...