Stephen A. Smith goes IN on Colin Keapernick for not voiting

[Rice N Beans]

That's that dumb smart shyt.

No. It's a good assessment on not to get involved with the circus that is politics.

There's millions of people that would love to be able to honestly vote for whomever they want and people put up the words of a man who's life was committed to making jokes as some sort of gospel. He could say shyt like this because as a white male no matter what happens he'll be good. Ain't too many of those around these parts......think about this. They CRUCIFIED Barack literally just for his name and a made up lie that he wasn't born in this country as a reason that he was unqualified to be President. George W. had so many DUIs I'm shocked he can get a license now and not to mention the drug abuse etc and his first lady killed a guy and literally never got charged and we never heard a peep. Donald dodged the draft, blocked black folks from living in his house, refused to pay people he owes money to, is going to court for fraud NEXT MONTH (yes our president will be dealing with a trial for fraud during his presidency), his wife was an illegal immigrant and again we barely here a peep. They don't have consequences to most of the shyt that happens in this country so for us to follow their fukking advice on voting is retarded as fukk. What happened during this vote is all of those white men praising Carlin saw the chance that their reign on top was potentially gonna end after having a black man and then potentially a woman. They made sure they were in line, they let the voter registration act fail on purpose, and they made sure their wives voted to make sure their guy got in.

The opportunity to vote doesn't always give you a democracy. In fact the US govt is skilled in that department.

Leading in, you've given good reasons not to vote for candidates, and is proving the point itself. You give people a reason to vote, people will vote. Obama I consider a great president and candidate (and whom I laid down the votes for), had a record setting turnout. I believe voters declined this election, and for good reason. We either get the snobby, misogynistic, and inexperienced Trump or the snake, corrupt, prejudiced in Clinton. 3rd parties are often inexperienced and don't get screen time to protect the duopoly.

Are these people wrong in not believing in voting for any candidate on the ballot? I think NOT. Why would I vote for Hilary, who paid out the party to punish Sanders (a man I turned out to vote for in primaries), called sections of the black youth super predators, and was broken down into childish insults by her opposite during debates? Why would I vote for Trump who is hostile to minorities, caters to racists, and doesn't believe in protecting the environment?

But to some people there's the requirement to picking the lesser of two evils. I can see that angle, but I don't believe in it if there's nobody to represent what I want or believe in.

I Kaep for sticking to his belief and exercising his right not to vote if he didn't believe in anyone who ran for the office.

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

its weak as fukk. write in someone for pres. there was dozens of local and statewide measures to have a say on. who gives a fukk what anyone who doesnt back their opinion up with voting has to say?

Are the issues he is protesting up for vote?

 

[DonKnock]

And you think this amount of variability exist in our 2 party system? This hypothetical restaurant would only have 2 things on the menu.. a greasy hamburger or a greasy cheese burger. Both will kill you if you keep eating it.. the one with cheese is just more appealing. Neither would be a "surprise" since you already know what your gonna get.

There is more than one office being voted for on the ballot.

There are Mayors, Governors, Schoolboard Members, Judges, Police commissioners. In my state there were 5 different parties represented on the ballot.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Republican or Democrat have shown it does not help PoCs

How do you think the civil rights bill got revamped, and then passed?

 

[Rice N Beans]

How do you think the civil rights bill got revamped, and then passed?

Mounting civil unrest.

 

[seemorecizzy]

kaep should have voted
but stephen a went overboard with the hate
he should be ashamed

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Mounting civil unrest.

ok

 

[Nigerianwonder]

MLK,Medgar and them marched to vote, these guys lost their lives !.They made our grandparents (if your black) recite alphabet backwards just to vote..I may not have a platform like Kap but all we have is a vote.Its like being a customer who complains on how bad customer service was in a restaurant,yet instead of telling the restaurant about your bad experience,you just sit home and complain about it.

This is the mindset of a defeated person. You have much more power than just a vote my friend. That's what they want you to believe. That you have no choice but to go along with and have faith in the system of white supremacy.

Our ancestors didn't march for you just to be able to vote. They also marched so you wouldn't get shot like a dog by police in the street or have to beg white people to acknowledge you matter.

 

[Thegospel]

This article explains it and saves me from writing a novel - What Trump’s Win Means for Chicago and Baltimore’s Cops - The department of justice is headed by the Attorney General. They can't force a state/local prosecutors to pull charges against a cop nor can they force a grand jury to put charges on a cop, but what they can do is come in and essentially take over the department any time these reports happen, investigate them, then shut down all the bull shyt they've been getting away with and force them to change/get better.

When Trump appoints Guiliani he's going to undo all of that. At least with Bush you could see they felt the need to investigate as well, but Guiliani comes from a perspective that all cops are correct and any actions they do are just. It removes oversight to allow the ones that are shytty to go even further without fear of the feds coming in and taking over the department.

But the cops been getting away anyway so what's new? investgation or no investigation they don't really get punished but whatever

 

[DonKnock]

Mounting civil unrest.

You realize one of the major victories of that was the Voting Rights Act

Republicans have been slowly dismantling it and now there has been movingly of polls and all other types of fuccery preventing people from voting.

Some of the States affected by this went surprisingly to Trump.

But keep believing that Republicans are going to all this time and effort for their health

New Rules in These States Are Frustrating Voters

This is the first election without the full Voting Rights Act — and it's already a disaster

In a Black Precinct in Georgia, Simply Finding the Polling Place Was a Challenge

After cuts to early voting, black turnout is down in North Carolina

 

[Bilz]

Are you ready to die for the cause?

Cause millions of people aren't ready to die for the cause, but voting is something they CAN do. Not everyone is built for that, why would you not want a multifaceted approach.

You need people like Kaep, you need people like Micah, but you also need people to go out and vote!

I just think that Kap voting or not voting is separate from his protest about police brutality and how he feels about the country overall.

If Stephen A wants to say ALL people should vote, that's cool, but singling Colin out with a diatribe filled with fake anger was just a shytty way of doing it.

Stephen A isn't trying to help Colin, hes just trying to tear him down for the approval of white people. Stephen probably voted for Trump and he's going to sit here and complain about what Colin is/isn't doing

 

[calh45]

But the cops been getting away anyway so what's new? investgation or no investigation they don't really get punished but whatever

The difference is the feds can come in and take over and fix the shyt from the top. They can't control who gets charged. That's why people should vote for their district attorney. They're the people who decides whether the cops get off free. The main problem is that people expect the President to be a giant dictator, but those people in Missouri, Illinois, and Maryland should've been going at the necks of whomever the district attorney is in their area because they're elected officials too and they control a LOT more shyt that happens locally than the president or his cabinet members as it pertains to charging folks.

If you have an issue with cops getting off then make sure you know what your city's district attorney is about next election, but if you're talking about fixing the overall problem then Obama did what he could do within the structure of the law and that oversight those cops did have from the feds will now be gone.

 

[calh45]

No. It's a good assessment on not to get involved with the circus that is politics.



The opportunity to vote doesn't always give you a democracy. In fact the US govt is skilled in that department.

Leading in, you've given good reasons not to vote for candidates, and is proving the point itself. You give people a reason to vote, people will vote. Obama I consider a great president and candidate (and whom I laid down the votes for), had a record setting turnout. I believe voters declined this election, and for good reason. We either get the snobby, misogynistic, and inexperienced Trump or the snake, corrupt, prejudiced in Clinton. 3rd parties are often inexperienced and don't get screen time to protect the duopoly.

Are these people wrong in not believing in voting for any candidate on the ballot? I think NOT. Why would I vote for Hilary, who paid out the party to punish Sanders (a man I turned out to vote for in primaries), called sections of the black youth super predators, and was broken down into childish insults by her opposite during debates? Why would I vote for Trump who is hostile to minorities, caters to racists, and doesn't believe in protecting the environment?

But to some people there's the requirement to picking the lesser of two evils. I can see that angle, but I don't believe in it if there's nobody to represent what I want or believe in.

I Kaep for sticking to his belief and exercising his right not to vote if he didn't believe in anyone who ran for the office.

The problem with Kaep's whole argument is the oversimplification of everything involving voting. If he really knew what he was talking about he'd encourage people to learn more about how government works so they can make an actual change. Everything is all simplified to focus on the vote for the President when that's not the only cog in the wheel. If he's about using his platform for good then he better damn sure be knowledgeable on what he's telling people to do. Not voting period is dumb as fukk. I don't care who any of y'all vote for. Just go vote.

 

[DonKnock]

I just think that Kap voting or not voting is separate from his protest about police brutality and how he feels about the country overall.

If Stephen A wants to say ALL people should vote, that's cool, but singling Colin out with a diatribe filled with fake anger was just a shytty way of doing it.

Stephen A isn't trying to help Colin, hes just trying to tear him down for the approval of white people. Stephen probably voted for Trump and he's going to sit here and complain about what Colin is/isn't doing

I agree with all of that, this was clearly a spectacle. I also agree that Colin has a right not to vote. I just wish he hadn't revealed it

 

[Thegospel]

The difference is the feds can come in and take over and fix the shyt from the top. They can't control who gets charged. That's why people should vote for their district attorney. They're the people who decides whether the cops get off free. The main problem is that people expect the President to be a giant dictator, but those people in Missouri, Illinois, and Maryland should've been going at the necks of whomever the district attorney is in their area because they're elected officials too and they control a LOT more shyt that happens locally than the president or his cabinet members as it pertains to charging folks.

If you have an issue with cops getting off then make sure you know what your city's district attorney is about next election, but if you're talking about fixing the overall problem then Obama did what he could do within the structure of the law and that oversight those cops did have from the feds will now be gone.

bruh I'm sayin none of the district attorneys did shyt during Obamas tenure so how could it be worse with Trump? I'd see if even ONE cop got held responsible for the killing of an unarmed civilian during Obama but from what I saw, all of them got off. If your answer for what will be worse with Trump is that he'll appoint Gulliani who will eliminate federal investigations then cool, I get that. I'm just saying investigation or not the result is a cop set free.