Steph entered the NBA in 09.. Bron 03 they both have 4 rings

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Because the playoff crucible is the ultimate test of a player's ability. You want to focus on the regular season because Curry is generally worse in the playoffs.

Why would you adjust for shot attempt discrepancies? Lebron's ability to be a higher volume scorer is a testament to his superior ability as a scorer. The funny thing is the difference in volume is a single shot attempt-- Lebron averages 20.7 FGA in the playoffs for his career while Curry averages 19.5. Those early high volume Cleveland playoff runs hurt Lebron's efficiency (playing in an era where spacing wasn't a priority) and yet he's still as efficient in the playoffs for his career as Curry is (despite Curry playing fewer games in addition to playing in a more favorable era).

These are all excuses and attempts to decontextualize areas where Curry is clearly superior. I will duly note you think the regular season is of little importance going forward.
 

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Wait, so the new rule from LeBron haters is that playoffs are irrelevant and only regular season stats gained between ages 26 and 34 count? :laff:

Dumbass, even in THOSE nine seasons Bron's scoring still has beat Curry's scoring most of the time (2015, 2017, 2018, 2020, and 2022), pace has increased for everyone. You purposely tried to compare Bron's lowest-scoring seasons in lowest-paced years to Curry's best scoring seasons.



Even if you ONLY count the 26-34 years, and totally ignore the faster pace today, Bron's playoff scoring shyts all over Curry's. In the playoffs, Bron averaged:

31ppg at 21
35ppg at 24
29ppg at 25
30ppg at 27
30ppg at 30
33ppg at 32
34ppg at 33


Whereas Curry has gotten more than 28.3ppg in any playoff run in his entire career. :francis:
Why is your dikkeating ass only mentioning playoffs nikka :what:

Its known the East during Lebron’s run has been :flabbynsick:

Its also known that Steph sees way more defensive attention than anyone.

Didnt this nikka Lebron go a Finals averaging only 18 a game in his prime?
 

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Bron definitely a better scorer. You can't lie about scoring, either it goes in the hoop or doesn't. Lebron averages more points than Steph and has more impact playoff scoring performances.


LeBron has 28 forty-point playoff games. Steph has just 7 forty-point playoff games.

LeBron averages 28.7ppg on 50/34 shooting in the playoffs. Steph averages 26.6 on 45/40 shooting in the playoffs

LeBron averages 27.2ppg on 51/34 shooting in the regular season. Steph averages 24.6 ppg on 48/43 shooting in the regular season.


Even though LeBron's #'s were hurt by playing more seasons in a slower era and with much worse spacing, he still shyts all over Curry every way you can measure it.
 

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These are all excuses and attempts to decontextualize areas where Curry is clearly superior. I will duly note you think the regular season is of little importance going forward.
Excuses is trying to account for shot attempt discrepancies because of Curry's inadequacies as an on-ball scorer.

Lebron averages more points on comparable efficiency in the playoffs. His fifth best playoff run is better than Curry's best. Keep juelzing about it tho.
 

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LeBron has 28 forty-point playoff games. Steph has just 7 forty-point playoff games.

LeBron averages 28.7ppg on 50/34 shooting in the playoffs. Steph averages 26.6 on 45/40 shooting in the playoffs

LeBron averages 27.2ppg on 51/34 shooting in the regular season. Steph averages 24.6 ppg on 48/43 shooting in the regular season.


Even though LeBron's #'s were hurt by playing more seasons in a slower era and with much worse spacing, he still shyts all over Curry every way you can measure it.
Compare peaks you dumbass nikka


Why you leaving out the regular season you dumbass nikka

:mjlol:
 

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People pissing me off with the disingenuous talking points about superteams :snoop:

Saying that Curry and lebron never had superteams is stupid. But saying they always had superteams is also dumb

Look

Curry had a supeteeam with Durant 2017-2019

Lebron had a super team with the heat 2011-2014 (mostly the first 3 years of that)

It's that simple. Stop being disingenuous with the extreme takes.
 

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Literally every point you tried to make was a straight lie. :laff:



Why is your dikkeating ass only mentioning playoffs nikka :what:

Playoffs is where defenses lock down and true scoring ability is measured, but you're lying. I didn't only mention playoffs. This was a regular-season stat:

"Dumbass, even in THOSE nine seasons Bron's scoring still has beat Curry's scoring most of the time (2015, 2017, 2018, 2020, and 2022)"


Even in YOUR cherry-picked seasons, Bron has scored more than Curry most years. And Bron's overall regular season averages are far higher than Curry's despite playing in a slower era with worse spacing.




Its known the East during Lebron’s run has been :flabbynsick:

Bron averages MORE points against the West than he does against the East, dumbass. :mjlol:

You gotta be ignorant as fukk to not realize the East has had better defenses than the West for most of LeBron's career, facing teams like Detroit, Boston, Chicago, and Indiana.





Compare peaks you dumbass nikka

Why don't we just list all of them? Bron kills Curry in top 5 seasons, worst 5 seasons, and everywhere else, despite playing most of his prime in a MUCH slower era than Curry's with terrible spacing:

Bron's seasons: 31.4, 30.3, 30.0, 29.7, 29.0, 28.4, 27.5, 27.4, 27.3, 27.2, 27.1, 27.1, 26.8, 26.7, 26.4, 25.3, 25.3, 25.3, 25.0, 20.9
Curry's seasons: 32.0, 30.1, 29.7, 27.3, 26.4, 25.5, 25.3, 24.0, 23.8, 22.9, 20.8, 18.6, 17.5, 14.7

Bron's playoffs: 35.3, 34.0, 32.8, 30.8, 30.3, 30.1, 29.1, 28.2, 27.6, 27.4, 26.3, 25.9, 25.1, 23.7, 23.3
Curry's playoffs: 28.3, 28.2, 28.1, 27.4, 25.5, 25.1, 23.4, 23.0


In the regular season, Bron is better. In the playoffs, Bron is FAR better. And that's without even taking pace and spacing into account.

Only LeBron haters try to argue that regular season is more important than playoffs. :mjlol:
 

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Nah fan don't accuse me of changing history

During those finals, the narrative was "lebron vs the Warriors superteam" way more than it was lebron vs Durant.

Everyone knew Lebron was outmatched because he was going up against BOTH Durant and Curry

Obviously there were some people who viewed Durant as the best player in the world and pointed out possessions where he was 1 on 1 against Lebron... but most people still knew to qualify it by bringing up the fact that Durant had Curry AND Green backing him up. When they won in 2017, Mike Breen asked if Durant and Curry were the best DUO ever. Scottie Pippen praised Steph for being willing to ingratiate KD in with the team.


You're saying KD put them over the top and steph lost in 2016 and 2019... dude there's a reason EVERYONE called it a bytch move. The Warriors already won a chip in 2015, and narrowly lost in game 7 in 2016, and were favorites to win even BEFORE they signed Durant. Durant just made it EASY for them to win, since he was an MVP getting slotted in to a 3rd option's scoring role (Harrison Barnes). Curry losing in 2016 doesn't change that. People lose, it happens. Lebron lost a Finals before.

So you agree FMVP isn't a great metric. (otherwise Tim Duncan should get this same criticism). And you agree ppg isn't that good either (again, Tim Duncan and also Bird would get this treatment).

And you agree it was Steph's team. And that the on off numbers were better.

So there's not much to argue, espeically with how even Ty Lue himself has said that the cavs gameplan was to stop Steph - because he's the most dangerous player in the league (someone else posted it a page or 2 ago).

Every true #1 player is usually gonna be the focus of the other team's gameplan. Shaq was the focus when team's played against the Lakers. Lebron was the focus when team's played against the Cavs and Heat. Kobe was the focus in the 08-10 finals (which is why I don't shyt on him for his numbers those years).


I can't force you to change your opinion of course, and that's fine :manny:

But I think as time goes on, if Durant doesn't win again, and God forbid if Steph DOES WIN another, it'll be hard to view Durant as ever being that guy considering what we already know

We can agree to disagree bruh, we just see the sane shyt thru a different lens...

If we stripped away narratives and bias

Steph is better than Lebron but people can't get there just yet....but future generations far removed will start to question the Lebron > Steph narrative.

I don't know who Rhakim is but the guy isn't very bright.

Definitely not a better scorer
And Lebron is a more heliocentric passer but not necessarily better. If anything, Steph not needing to pound the ball to generate assist is better. Just his mere gravity gets guys open even if he doesn't get credit.
Lebron had a 2-3 year stretch of great defense but is otherwise overrated in that department.
Steph's rebounding % hovers around 8-9 for his career, Lebron 10-11....not a significant gap given size/position for that to even factor in.

You've flooded this thread with awful posts. Just stop...
 

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The thing is you can replace kobe at the time with tmac , vcarter, ai and they probably still win... cant say the same for shaq but yall making the case for whos the goat between kobe n bron so imma let yall cook :hubie:

Lies. Duncan and Kobe together in LA would have terrorized the NBA. Whereas Shaq in San Antonio wouldn’t have worked.
 

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