Steph entered the NBA in 09.. Bron 03 they both have 4 rings

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The Warriors won with their defense. Tatum scored 22 PPG on 37 FG%. The Celtics scored 101 PPG after averaging 112 PPG for the Regular season. We know that it wasn't Steph's No-Defense having ass that was stopping the Celtics. It was Green, Klay, and Wiggins play the crucial defense.
How does that make them a superteam nikka :what:

And why the hell couldnt Boston’s number-1 ranked defense stop Steph?
 

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If we stripped away narratives and bias

Steph is better than Lebron but people can't get there just yet....but future generations far removed will start to question the Lebron > Steph narrative.

I don't know who Rhakim is but the guy isn't very bright.
As players prime Lebron is a much better defender (in all facets), rebounder, passer, and overall scorer than Steph.

You really can't name many things Steph is better at honestly. And shooting is important, and he is the GOAT shooter, but that's not the entire game of basketball.

There's certain things that 6'3 guys without godly athleticism just can't do on a basketball court. Its not knocking Steph, but its a big man's game.
 

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As players prime Lebron is a much better defender (in all facets), rebounder, passer, and overall scorer than Steph.

You really can't name many things Steph is better at honestly. And shooting is important, and he is the GOAT shooter, but that's not the entire game of basketball.

There's certain things that 6'3 guys without godly athleticism just can't do on a basketball court. Its not knocking Steph, but its a big man's game.
Hell NO
 

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As players prime Lebron is a much better defender (in all facets), rebounder, passer, and overall scorer than Steph.

You really can't name many things Steph is better at honestly. And shooting is important, and he is the GOAT shooter, but that's not the entire game of basketball.

There's certain things that 6'3 guys without godly athleticism just can't do on a basketball court. Its not knocking Steph, but its a big man's game.

Definitely not a better scorer
And Lebron is a more heliocentric passer but not necessarily better. If anything, Steph not needing to pound the ball to generate assist is better. Just his mere gravity gets guys open even if he doesn't get credit.
Lebron had a 2-3 year stretch of great defense but is otherwise overrated in that department.
Steph's rebounding % hovers around 8-9 for his career, Lebron 10-11....not a significant gap given size/position for that to even factor in.
 

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How the hell was his team last year a superteam

"Superteam" is a stupid phrase that doesn't mean anything, but the poster claiming Bron had 13 straight years of super teams is being disingenuous as fukk if he says the 2022 Warriors weren't one.

There's no way you can prove a team was a superteam or not, because the term has no real definition. But the 2022 Warriors had:

Curry: 2022 All-Star and MVP candidate
Wiggins: 2022 All-Star
Draymond: 2022 All-Star and 1st-team All-Defensive
Klay: Averaged 20ppg, previous 5x All-Star
Poole: Averaged 19ppg

Any team that has 3 All-Stars, a fourth borderline All-Star, and a near 20ppg scorer as the 5th-best player is fukking stacked.


Steph's Finals performance was so good that people forget he was having a forgettable playoffs until then. The team carried the weight before that.

1st Round: Draymond shutting down Jokic was the main storyline the first two games. Klay and Poole shot the lights out, putting up 23ppg on 51/46/83 and 21ppg on 55/48/85. Steph was great too with 28ppg on 50/40/74 but he came off the bench and only averaged 30 minutes that series.

WCSF: Steph only averaged 26ppg on 41% shooting. They closed it out in Game 6 despite a terrible shooting performance from Steph because Klay led all scorers with 30.

WCF: Steph averaged just 24ppg on 44% shooting despite Dallas's weak-ass defense. Warriors closed it out in Game 5 behind 32 from Klay, Steph had just 15 points on 5-17 shooting and was the Warriors #5 scorer for the game.


Steph had a great Finals and deserved Finals MVP, but that was a STACKED team that could beat anyone on any given night no matter how well Curry played.
 

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Lebron has averaged more points in his career in both the regular season and the playoffs, and in his prime was an elite 3-level scorer. Curry is an all-time great scorer but not at his level.
Lebron came in day 1 gunning while Curry hit his stride in his first mvp season.

If we take Steph age 26-34 he is averaging more ppg on better efficiency than Lebron in those same years (age 26-34) and that was with sharing the bal with KD for 3 of those years
 

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"Superteam" is a stupid phrase that doesn't mean anything, but the poster claiming Bron had 13 straight years of super teams is being disingenuous as fukk if he says the 2022 Warriors weren't one.

There's no way you can prove a team was a superteam or not, because the term has no real definition. But the 2022 Warriors had:

Curry: 2022 All-Star and MVP candidate
Wiggins: 2022 All-Star
Draymond: 2022 All-Star and 1st-team All-Defensive
Klay: Averaged 20ppg, previous 5x All-Star
Poole: Averaged 19ppg

Any team that has 3 All-Stars, a fourth borderline All-Star, and a near 20ppg scorer as the 5th-best player is fukking stacked.


Steph's Finals performance was so good that people forget he was having a forgettable playoffs until then. The team carried the weight before that.

1st Round: Draymond shutting down Jokic was the main storyline the first two games. Klay and Poole shot the lights out, putting up 23ppg on 51/46/83 and 21ppg on 55/48/85. Steph was great too with 28ppg on 50/40/74 but he came off the bench and only averaged 30 minutes that series.

WCSF: Steph only averaged 26ppg on 41% shooting. They closed it out in Game 6 despite a terrible shooting performance from Steph because Klay led all scorers with 30.

WCF: Steph averaged just 24ppg on 44% shooting despite Dallas's weak-ass defense. Warriors closed it out in Game 5 behind 32 from Klay, Steph had just 15 points on 5-17 shooting and was the Warriors #5 scorer for the game.


Steph had a great Finals and deserved Finals MVP, but that was a STACKED team that could beat anyone on any given night no matter how well Curry played.
Aint no way in hell im reading this disingenuous ass post from you nikka :mjlol:
 

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Definitely not a better scorer
And Lebron is a more heliocentric passer but not necessarily better. If anything, Steph not needing to pound the ball to generate assist is better. Just his mere gravity gets guys open even if he doesn't get credit.
Lebron had a 2-3 year stretch of great defense but is otherwise overrated in that department.
Steph's rebounding % hovers around 8-9 for his career, Lebron 10-11....not a significant gap given size/position for that to even factor in.
Bron definitely a better scorer. You can't lie about scoring, either it goes in the hoop or doesn't. Lebron averages more points than Steph and has more impact playoff scoring performances.

Its harder to be a heliocentric passer. Only a few guys can do it. Gravity isn't passing. bad argument there.

Lebron is just a better overall defender, overrated in your estimation or not.

Rebounding percentage, huh? Lets count rebounds. Who would win in a rebounding drill? jokes.
 
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