Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Official Thread)

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gluvnast said:
The fanboys complaining about TLJ not moving forward are mostly not caring at all about character development or overall theme and rather they want fan service which ironically is what's people are complaining about with TROS.

TLJ was the most character developed film out of the trilogy. It's too bad that JJ tossed all that out the bushes and those characters were back at square one.

In TLJ, Poe went from a hot head, egoist who wanted to be the hero and because of his insubordination nearly decimated the entire Resistance to realizing the lesson of battling for another day and looking at the bigger picture. He was positioned to become a responsible leader and those were the tough lessons he took for granted initially.

Finn was going from that bumbling idiot to almost about to sacrifice his own life so the Resistance could escape. That selfless service was what made Rose fall in love with him and had Finn for the first and now ONLY time he caught feelings for someone else than Rey. He practically ignored Rey when she return because he was comforting Rose.

Rey learned about legacy. She accepted that her lineage wasn't of royalty and she was blessed with force given gifts. She resisted the temptation of the dark side and chose the light and took the Jedi Texts to master her Jedi skills.

Kylo Ren also learned about legacy and rejected his lineage completely to include striving to be like Vader and embraced the dark fully to become supreme commander of the First Order. It's also the first time conflict was inside him.

Luke, to people were angry had the biggest arc because he went into exile (keep mind JJ put him there) for the failure of Kylo Ren. He wanted to live up to that of Kenobi and Yoda, but the very subtle fact was that Luke also never gotten rid of the bit of darkness that was within him. He was still too much like his father Anakin. So him quitting is very MUCH a Luke Skywalker move. It was only when Yoda showed him that being a Jedi isn't within the text books but within him was when Luke fully understood. Him force projecting himself galaxies away was vital in the fact that had he not did that, the Resistance would of been no more and become one with the force is always the ultimate achievement. That concludes Luke the man's chapter, but his legacy will continue as those of the Resistance would of told stories of that day of how Luke in a God-like way prevented the First Order from destroying the last of the Resistance.
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:mjlol:There was no character development in TLJ

unless you considered destroying Luke development :mjlol:
 
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Originalman said:
This and all of this
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On the contrary, Rian Johnson was the only one that cared about the canon and used events of the past as motivation for the current arc of Luke. Last when telling Rey that the Jedi Order were basically pieces of shyt that were conned into helping Palpatine become Emperor and pushed his own father to become a Sith Lord. Even in both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, both Yoda and Obi Wan was wrong in their assessment of not just Luke but their idea of closing out your emotions and fukk helping others because of the consequences. They purposely withheld the secret of Vader being his father in hopes they could train Luke to kill him without that conflict and arguably that's the real reason why they did not want Luke to confront him the first time. In Return of the Jedi, Yoda STILL was voicing to murder Vader, but Luke was reluctant because of it being his own father, and even Obi Wan stated that it's all lost if Luke doesn't go through with it. Not understand that it's Luke compassion that was the key because Obi Wan and Yoda were trained to close out emotion which also the reason why Anakin turned. The Last Jedi was the ONLY FILM of the sequel trilogy that not only understood this, but made it a POINT to be the arc for Luke for his own disillusionment and his own failure in his eyes for turning Ben Solo to Kylo Ren and felt he's no better than the Jedi Order and therefore his reason into going into exile. The whole POINT of the movie is about Luke Skywalker, the LEGEND is more important than Luke Skywalker, the MAN.... because Luke represented HOPE to the galaxy and that's how he was remembered, and in addition the idea that anyone can be force sensitive and it's not something that you inherited which was another flaw by the Jedi Order. That's why the FINAL SCENE was important.

But never mind, y'all feel that bringing in old nostalgia equal to staying true to canon rather than pieces of storytelling about how the past affects things of the present.
 
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star wars nerds ruined any hope of this trilogy being good by complaining about the 3rd best movie in the whole franchise cause it wasnt exactly like the original trilogy , thnaks nerds
 
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Stringer Cochran said:
its crazy how we sell care about and love characters introduced 40 years ago

luke
han
obi wan
leia
lando
vader
chewy
yoda

etc

nobody will give a fukk about Rey, Finn, Poe, kylo 4 years from now let alone 40.

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at the end of the day thats all you nerds care about. lmao you prob root for all the movies post original trilogy to do badly
 
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wtfyomom said:
at the end of the day thats all you nerds care about. lmao you prob root for all the movies post original trilogy to do badly
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rogue one was good and only had leia and Vader in it for a few minutes.

The Mandolorian is good and has all new characters.

Old Republic was one of the goat video games and had all original characters


We care about good stories and character development in the stat wars universe not fan service. If this trilogy was good and had jone of the og characters we would have been happy

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Stringer Cochran said:
rogue one was good and only had leia and Vader in it for a few minutes.

The Mandolorian is good and has all new characters.

Old Republic was one of the goat video games and had all original characters


We care about good stories and character development in the stat wars universe not fan service. If this trilogy was good and had jone of the og characters we would have been happy

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Add Jedi Fallen Order to that list of Star Wars stories that work without the tried and true OG characters.
Even though Vader is in it for a little bit
 
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Stringer Cochran said:
he was too busy deconstructing the Skywalker 'myth' and turning him into a useless cranky old man even though he is the most powerful force in the known galaxy.

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Again...I think he had to have a good reason why Luke was MIA the entire time during TFA. I mean it just doesn't make any sense unless Luke is truly shut down. And if he "easily" joins back in...then what the fukk was he missing from TFA for.

I still say the issue is execution. Because it was clear to me that Rian was trying to do what Coogler did with Creed. No one was use to seeing Rocky negative, giving up hope, etc ....it just was done in a way more polished/better executed imo.

It worked for me, but there are some things he could have done for Luke to have him less cranky. But again I got it.
 
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