Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Official Thread)

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the prequels did show Palp go from Senator to Emperor, though, and how he was playing both sides to ultimately create the empire.

Making a council of the most powerful Jedi look like weirdo morons, and having some bumbling cartoon rabbit be the vital vote in creating the Empire :hhh:
 

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Vader has the same problem. And did far more heinous stuff

Seems like if you're a Skywalker, one good act makes you a Force Ghost.

Maybe becoming a force ghost has nothing to do with balancing your good vs your bad actions. Yoda and Obi-Wan needed training to achieve it and they pulled Anakin into it.

Perhaps it's more about your state of mind at death, Anakin and Ben (and Leia, Luke, Ben Kenobi) didn't just die - they gave their lives fully for someone else. Yoda simply accepted his fate and let nature take it's course, but he was trained by Qui-Gon.

Now this movie established that even Mace Windu and a bunch of others are at least on Qui-Gon levels of force presence.
 

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I hate this dudes who act like TLJ was actually good. That movie was absolute trash. They keep trying to make this a RJ vs JJ thing when they both failed miserably. JJ is a hack who can only make carbon copies of prior material who refused to adapt this last movie and ultimately shat on 40+ years of character arches and development. And RJ is an a$$hole who decided to hijack the trilogy and make his own statement. Both of them clearly never understood or cared for Star Wars or the ridiculous Jedi powers they decided to toss in these movies wouldvt exist.

At the end of the day the real enemy is Kathleen. I wouldn't manage a school team essay they way she managed a multi billion dollar movie series :heh:.
I still think we’d be in a better place if JJ did the whole thing. The big problem is KK though.
 

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I liked the Emperor's part in this film, he should have been in it more. Daisy Ridley's performance was well crafted. I found the rest of the film pretty boring.

I feel like I might rewatch TLJ and ROS in a few years and enjoy them more once the dust has settled but right now I'm disappointed. Force Awakens felt like it was setting up something much grander and different and even parts of TLJ did too. In the end this film is more or less a copy of every old Star Wars trope but to much lesser effect.
 

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It’s just the media. People irl don’t fukk with that movie.
They really like that bullshyt ass movie. I was listening to a podcast last night and some critic was on there talking about the TLJ backlash and his voice started trembling like he was bout to cry.:scust: I turned that shyt off.
 

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JJ Abrams is the most overrated, xeroxed-style-over-faux-substance director alive. There are no original ideas in his work, and this is the most clear example of that flaw. It was fine for TFA, where you're introducing new characters, mixing them with old ones, all while trying to attract a new generation of fans. But here? It just sucks.
Johnson left him with nearly endless possibilities. And JJ went backwards, in every fashion. It's unchallenging, fan-service-over-all, tripe.

And The Last Jedi is far and away the best film of this trilogy. Sure it's a little messy, but it's the only one with anything to say beyond "hey, remember Star Wars?" I'm amazed that Disney let Johnson do what he did in their sandbox. And disappointed that they let JJ undo everything interesting in favor of...this.

Oh well.
 

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I thought it was ok. I just can't get over how much this trilogy holds onto nostalgia. I mean I get it but damn let these people die.
 

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It’s just the media. People irl don’t fukk with that movie.

I know more people who love it than I do people who hate it. Me included.
I'm hardly a Star Wars stan. I have mild affection for the originals and have never bothered to see the prequels...so take it with a Crait planet-sized grain of salt...but TLJ is my favorite SW movie. :yeshrug:
 

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I thought it was ok. I just can't get over how much this trilogy holds onto nostalgia. I mean I get it but damn let these people die.

The Last Jedi - "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."

JJ Abrams - "Let the past influence every decision. Pretend to kill it if you have to, but never actually let it go."
 
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