Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Official Thread)

[TheDarkskinnedDrake]

Just saw it, I thought it was dope Kylo Ren needs to stop acting like a hoe and start stomping these rebels out

 

[winb83]

Also in The Force Awakens Finn pretty much was the sole protagonist. The movie mostly followed his point of view. Don't make the mistake that the protagonist has to be "the most important character" in the story. That isn't true at all. Sometimes the protagonist is deliberately not that character.
Supporting Protagonist - TV Tropes

 

[Axolotl]

The protagonist is the character the audience follows their point of view. They may or may not be important to the events that unfold in the plot. They may or may not be a hero. Some protagonists are villains for example.

Not sure if you're a gamer but in the game Final Fantasy XIII Vaan is the protagonist and he is almost of no importance to the plot. Basch and Ashe are the most important characters to the story but neither is the protagonist because the audience experienced the story from Vaan's perspective.

I say that there are 3 protagonists because we basically split time following Poe, Rey, and Finn.

No your confused.

Main Character is a point of view. The Protagonist pursues the Story Goal. One represents the Objective Drive (Protagonist) in the story, the other represents the Subjective Drive (Main Character).


The story goal is the concern or goal that affects or involves most of the characters, if not the entire story world. It is also the source of the external conflict.

Finn and Poe are supporting characters.

 

[Axolotl]

lol there no such thing as a "supporting protagonist". I think you mean a false protagonist.

 

[Axolotl]

Or are you saying that Finn is the deuteragonist of this story? If so, then I can see that.

 

[TheNatureBoy]

Just came back from seeing this and was entertained throughout . I haven't looked through all the thread pages here, but I'm not sure why this film turned out to be so divisive. I thought there were a lot of memorable scenes and moments that stood out, some unexpected. Some not.

 

[DoubleClutch]

Fin and the asian girl had nice chemistry. they had good action packed scenes on that casino planet. she convinced him not to be a coward. he stuck up for her after her sister died. and she saved him at the end. Those are the only characters who had an interesting side story

all the other characters didn't seem to have any type of real connection

 

[Eddy Gordo]

Fin and the asian girl had nice chemistry. they had good action packed scenes on that casino planet. she convinced him not to be a coward. he stuck up for her after her sister died. and she saved him at the end. Those are the only characters who had an interesting side story

all the other characters didn't seem to have any type of real connection

You do realize ,with the exception of of Finn giving a fukk about rose sister, Finn did all these same things in last movie. He literally did the same shyt except it was more important and compelling then. The character didn't grow and that's a problem for me.

But if you liked it more power to you.

 

[FaTaL]

You do realize ,with the exception of of Finn giving a fukk about rose sister, Finn did all these same things in last movie. He literally did the same shyt except it was more important and compelling then. The character didn't grow and that's a problem for me.

But if you liked it more power to you.

Finn always will be nothing but a supporting character like Han, it's not like he'll become a Jedi or something. He's there for laughs and giggles and they stuck him with the fat ugly sister

There u go

 

[Eddy Gordo]

Finn always will be nothing but a supporting character like Han, it's not like he'll become a Jedi or something. He's there for laughs and giggles and they stuck him with the fat ugly sister

There u go

Breh at least han was useful. Finn is Jar Jar status useless. This dude could've stayed in the coma and more people would've lived.

It's just fukked up the way they did him. I didn't need him to be great. Just decent.

 

[FaTaL]

Breh at least han was useful. Finn is Jar Jar status useless. This dude could've stayed in the coma and more people would've lived.

It's just fukked up the way they did him. I didn't need him to be great. Just decent.

He probably helps ray kill the Vader wannabe, that's pretty much as good as it gets with him

They ruined Finn, Luke, and Snoke for no reason.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

He probably helps ray kill the Vader wannabe, that's pretty much as good as it gets with him

They ruined Finn, Luke, and Snoke for no reason.

We both know he has no business being in the room when that goes down. This dude getting another side quest.

The reason was feminism, subverting expectations, and shock value. Whatever happened to writing a good story and compelling characters?

 

[TheNatureBoy]

It's just fukked up the way they did him. I didn't need him to be great. Just decent.

Finn had the intel on the first order ships, in order to hack inside them, took out Phasma, and was ready to make a big sacrifice to help the rebellion. I certainly wouldn't call him useless.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

Finn had the intel on the first order ships, in order to hack inside them, This the same thing he did in the last movie took out Phasma, I can let him have that W and was ready to make a big sacrifice to help the rebellion. And this felt unearned and didn't make a lick of sense. He started the movie ready to leave these people to die. Where along his character arc did he become someone willing to die for them. Not to mention the fact that two other characters did heroic sacrifices previously and it was fine. But when he does its taken from him and he is chastised for it. I certainly wouldn't call him useless. If I was in danger I would call BB-8 to help before Finn.The soccer ball Droid. More useful than Finn.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

Now that I think about it, if Finn wasn't black I probably wouldn't even care at this point.

Both JJ and Boyega both said that Finn wasn't written for any particular race so I suppose Lucasfilm thinks they did a good deed by just adding a Black and Asian character to the mix.