This is literally why 90% of nikkas on here are bytching and complaining. They're all just mad cause their theories or what they wanted to happen didn't. Get the fukk over it
I think that's only a small percentage...like maybe 20%. The rest are bothered because this movie wastes a spot. It's a separate movie with characters that someone is forced to use. It is supposed to be part of an arc. Whatever direction this movie would have taken, fans would've been satisfied had they seemed like they wanted to continue a story. Either this movie is great, an excellent setup, in which case VII becomes a complete waste, or VII is the setup and VIII throws everything out of the window to start anew.
AND these new characters aren't that interesting. Rey is good, but I don't think they're no longer gonna pursue anything about her. Kylo is wasted. Hux is trash, Poe & Finn go n dummy missions. Most of their lines can be given to others, and it's the same movie. The biggest problem is that they don't interact with each other. They're supposed to be the next Luke, Han & Leia but we don't even know if they have chemistry with each other as a trio.
Yeah I’m just not in agreement on this one. I don’t think it was needed at all for reasons I’ve stated. Also again it was never promised that would happen. You wanted it cool. It didn’t happen. You assumed this guy was important. You assumed his story was worth telling. You assumed he warranted story when it was clear he was a conduit for Kylo Ren and his ascension. Just like Palpatine
And I think that's just the difference in how the fans feel. Even you would have to admit that if you look at this movie in the entirety of the story, it disappoints. However, as a stand-alone film, it is great. I do agree with you saying that they didn't promise us anything with regards to Snoke. However, we were promised for over 30+ years that Episodes 1-3 & 7-9 is one long story that tells the Skywalker saga. Even as other characters are introduced, it still tells the Skywalker saga. This film doesn't have to, because at the end of the day, they will do what they want, BUT it should. Either Kylo Ren should have been the main pro-/antagonist which would've been an excellent take on the usual good guy tropes, or they have to tie this together. This movie can exist perfectly outside of the Skywalker saga. I do think that the fact they Rian Johnson went so out of the way to erase all things JJ, is a slap in the face. This was really not tied to VII, and now IX has to take another direction. Overall, these 2 films have been bad storytelling. They've treated this ish like the X-Men movies.
I think what they did here would be the equivalent of the Narnia series, if you stop after the "War", then skip Caspian, and go directly into Dawn Treader...or Silver Chair. Better yet, if The Outsiders ends with the fight between Greasers & Socs, and the very next chapter is That Was Then, This is Now. At that point there has been too much invested to not know how everyone got to where they are, are even to where we can see that's why they are there.
But hey, I like it. I'll just skip it in the Star Wars narrative. Star Wars for me will be I-VI, and Rogue One.