Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Official Thread)

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After sleeping on it I gotta say the movie overall pretty much sucked. The 1st half is really slow with Rey with Luke on the island was straight trash. It picked up in the second half but still it was not enough for me. As most people agree the casino side story was some goofy shyt. I hate how they keep flip flopping on Kylo everytime you start thinking hes a badass villian they knock him down a peg to bytch status. Rey being some amazing Jedi just out of the blue i'm over it i'm just accepting it so that didnt even angry me I just let it be. Everyone seems to agree on this the kylo and rey team up was cool and the best part of the movie and I like that they switched up from the 1st 3 in that he turns on him Snoke now instead of at the end. Other then that the movie was mildly entertaining in the 2nd half of the movie.

Another issue I have is the movie is so long yet I feel like nothing is fully explored or hashed out.
 

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Still gotta put my thoughts together but I really liked it. Middle part drags a bit and some character choices (like the admiral not telling Poe her plans) felt like drama for the sake of drama and unnecessary. But the luke stuff worked for me and one scene even got me a little teary lol remembering how I felt when I was 11 watching empire in my bedroom.

Love how complex it is emotionally and taking a world that’s often black and white and saying “nah it ain’t that simple” and Star Wars should be morally complex as a reflection of our world now just like the first trilogy was a reflection of the 70s.
 

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was surprised to see the sis from the last american horror story in this...was kinda weird seeing her weird looking face dolled up w/ leia's hair
You mean Carrie Fisher's real life daughter? She was in TFA also. She's in this solely because of who her mother is.

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Love how complex it is emotionally and taking a world that’s often black and white and saying “nah it ain’t that simple” and Star Wars should be morally complex as a reflection of our world now just like the first trilogy was a reflection of the 70s.

I see people saying this but Star Wars has shown that since Vader suddenly turned into a good guy.

The prequels then went even further and gave us a war that had good/bad guys on both sides - as the Separatists were totally right that the Republic was corrupt, yet the Jedi and civilians serving the Republic weren't. It also showed how politicians like Padme were forced to abandon their ideals at times, as were the Jedi. Rogue One showed that the Rebels also had to get dirty.

I love that TLA built on this but it definitely didn't introduce it into the saga.
 

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As awesome as the scene was, I’m not understanding how two powerful ass Jedi like Kylo and Rey had such a hard time fighting off those soldiers.

They didn’t even use the force at all. Vader or prime Luke would have washed them nikkas solo.

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I liked the movie more than TFA and Rogue One. Seems people are mad that NONE of the theories they spent two years crafting came true. People complaining about not knowing Snoke's backstory, ummm it took 30 years for the Emporer's background to be explained and nobody had a problem with that.

Action was on point, cinematography was much better than the previous two movies, and most of the comedy was good. Only jokes that stood out as bad were in the opening with Poe and Hux and that water suit shyt with Finn. Also they clearly have no idea what they want to do with Finn, but at least in this movie he wasn't a bait and switch character. Cut about 20 minutes from this movie and it becomes great status.

I loved how they actually made those red troopers look competent. Someone on the Empire should show some level of fighting acumen other than the sith.
 

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I see people saying this but Star Wars has shown that since Vader suddenly turned into a good guy.

The prequels then went even further and gave us a war that had good/bad guys on both sides - as the Separatists were totally right that the Republic was corrupt, yet the Jedi and civilians serving the Republic weren't. It also showed how politicians like Padme were forced to abandon their ideals at times, as were the Jedi. Rogue One showed that the Rebels also had to get dirty.

I love that TLA built on this but it definitely didn't introduce it into the saga.

It feels different tho. It doesn’t feel quite as “wholesome” as those. I think it feels like more of a point in this movie and force awakens rather than an afterthought in the other movies. Like no one questions it really hard in those movies. Lol even luke kicking dirt on the Jedi and saying what a lot of fans say. This movie seemed intent on deconstructing Star Wars
 

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I liked the movie more than TFA and Rogue One. Seems people are mad that NONE of the theories they spent two years crafting came true. People complaining about not knowing Snoke's backstory, ummm it took 30 years for the Emporer's background to be explained and nobody had a problem with that.

Action was on point, cinematography was much better than the previous two movies, and most of the comedy was good. Only jokes that stood out as bad were in the opening with Poe and Hux and that water suit shyt with Finn. Also they clearly have no idea what they want to do with Finn, but at least in this movie he wasn't a bait and switch character. Cut about 20 minutes from this movie and it becomes great status.

I loved how they actually made those red troopers look competent. Someone on the Empire should show some level of fighting acumen other than the sith.

Yeah all that feels silly to me. Judge the movie as is not for the movie you want it to be. That’s the problem with making the movie in your head before actually seeing it.
 

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It feels different tho. It doesn’t feel quite as “wholesome” as those. I think it feels like more of a point in this movie and force awakens rather than an afterthought in the other movies. Like no one questions it really hard in those movies. Lol even luke kicking dirt on the Jedi and saying what a lot of fans say. This movie seemed intent on deconstructing Star Wars

The whole of Sith was Padme and the Jedi questioning their roles in the war though, and Anakin questioning the Jedi philosophy vs his own desires. And Rogue One was about how far the Rebels would go.

I agree that Luke questioning the rep of the Jedi was great, so was Yoda acknowledging that failure was his greatest teacher (he ends Sith saying "failed, I have").

That Benicio/Finn scene came off a bit too on the nose for me. Although it's consistent with people constantly one-upping Finn and putting him in his place (which was not a good thing in TLA).
 

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I liked the movie more than TFA and Rogue One. Seems people are mad that NONE of the theories they spent two years crafting came true. People complaining about not knowing Snoke's backstory, ummm it took 30 years for the Emporer's background to be explained and nobody had a problem with that.

Action was on point, cinematography was much better than the previous two movies, and most of the comedy was good. Only jokes that stood out as bad were in the opening with Poe and Hux and that water suit shyt with Finn. Also they clearly have no idea what they want to do with Finn, but at least in this movie he wasn't a bait and switch character. Cut about 20 minutes from this movie and it becomes great status.

I loved how they actually made those red troopers look competent. Someone on the Empire should show some level of fighting acumen other than the sith.

Why does there have to be a reason other than it was a bad movie to explain why people do not like this movie? Despite people giving detailed analysis as to why they consider this movie trash I still see silly statements like the above from people that liked the film.
 

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The whole of Sith was Padme and the Jedi questioning their roles in the war though, and Anakin questioning the Jedi philosophy vs his own desires. And Rogue One was about how far the Rebels would go.

I agree that Luke questioning the rep of the Jedi was great, so was Yoda acknowledging that failure was his greatest teacher (he ends Sith saying "failed, I have").

That Benicio/Finn scene came off a bit too on the nose for me. Although it's consistent with people constantly one-upping Finn and putting him in his place (which was not a good thing in TLA).

A lot of the scenes and dialogue was really on the nose

And yeah you’re right but I feel like George as a director was less interested in it than Rian as a director. It’s a byproduct of those movies rather than being the actual point of those movies. This whole movie revolves around legacy and points of view and generational differences. Lucas’ movies were more about political intrigue and the other stuff is just “oh yeah that happened too”
 
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