Star Wars: The Force Awakens (OFFICIAL THREAD)

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Everybody mad at Finn calling him a side kick, mean while the entire movie doesn't happen if he doesn't save Poe. Then he sits in the iconic gunners chair, he comes up with the entire plan to save Rey and destroy Starkiller Base. Seriously, think about this. You wouldn't dare call Han or Leia sidekicks they are deuteragonist. Dude next to Han is unknowingly the most heroic of all of them. Finn save a political prisoner, fights off TIE fighters, smuggles a droid back to the Resistance, sneaks into a planet wide death star and takes on a Sith in training not even knowing if he's Force Sensitive or not. Literally, because dude had some funny lines (like Han didn't) nikkas go into the "OH HERE WE GO AGAIN COURT JESTER shyt". And i'm one to point stuff out like that in films but seriously the whole film begins on the premise that Finn says to himself "i'm not going to kill innocent people even though that's what i was trained and raised to do". Like for real, i think ya'll get so caught up that you for get how good of a character that Finn is. Dude trumps Rey in terms of enjoy-ability totally. He, Han and Kylo made the film extra dope.



Oh and it's totally clear that Rey is a Skywalker.

Bruh,

nikka just wanted a reason to call him a c00n, sidekick, emasculated, etc before and after seeing the movie. Their agendas were already established and they wanted to look for needles in a haystack to try and force it. I'm not paying those shyts any attention.

Definitely glad they we got Stormtroopers with personalities. Did the clone factory get destroyed?
 

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She became aware of her force-sensitivity when she touched the lightsaber, then again as she was being tortured by Kylo Ren. She saw into his mind just as much as he saw into hers. It would not be a stretch to assume that she became more aware of the force. And also the Jedi Mind Trick is really well known even among non-force users. If there was one thing that would persist in their myth that would be that. So coupled with being exposed to high levels of the Force in 24 hours, plus her knowledge of Jedi myths and perhaps even a power awakening/exhange between her and Kylo its not crazy for her to do that at that time.



sidebar....the stormtrooper she tricked is actually Daniel Craig in cameo. :russ:
 

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Bruh,

nikka just wanted a reason to call him a c00n, sidekick, emasculated, etc before and after seeing the movie. Their agendas were already established and they wanted to look for needles in a haystack to try and force it. I'm not paying those shyts any attention.

Definitely glad they we got Stormtroopers with personalities. Did the clone factory get destroyed?

They alluded to using clones in passing. I think they may have moved on from the Jango clones to full on genetic engineering and basically just growing people. That would explain why Finn only has a number and not a name and knows nothing of a family. but thats just a hair brained theory.
 

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This isn't about wanting everything explained, it's about credibility. It took Luke 2 movies to master the skills Rey displayed against Kilo, and it took Anakin an entire trilogy. And we're supposed to believe Rey figured it all out in 20 minutes :usure: Maybe she is that badass and is even more focused and powerful than Anakin but it was a little hard to swallow after 6 movies telling us that training and discipline is crucial to wielding that kind of symbiotic show of the force.


we're looking for credibility in a movie where people can understand what a wookie is talking about when it growls :mjlol:
 

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All this finn hate is irking me, y'all may never be pleased, but anyways
Before i get started, where are yall ranking kylo? Could he body darth maul?
I'm happy Fin didn't turn out to be the super hero of ep7, i was mad looking at the posters and thought it would be corny for a character with no relations to skywalkers / a former stormtrooper to kill the bad guy. That wouldve been affirmative action to the max. Instead of that, we got a character who's completely green and its refreshingly good. He's doing what a lot of what the audience would have done. You have the baddest fukk head in the galaxy chasing after you with a fleet of hundred of thousand and a planet destroyer... im out that bytch too. That not cowardice, thats intelligence. He didn't even know about the rebel group or what they did, why would he fight Kylo one on one? :what:


Then people saying that Rey shouldnt have been able to fight and beat kylo. Let's think about her story first, just like jedi, she's spending her life in isolation, possibly training without knowing it. Then the sequence after touching the saber which basically said she's bloodline of god body anakin aka the chosen one... she's made for this. When kylo used force to take her on the first meet, that was the first time she probably ever interacted with the force. I don't think she just magically got better, but she was exposed to something she's naturally good at. Then during the interrogation, she read his fear and thats all you really need to beat somebody in a fight... not that that excuses him from taking that L...

So about Kylo... love the character, loved the acting, def force proficient, but nothing in this movie made me think he had them hands. He's a force reliant fighter. He swung the saber like a heavy blade, predictable and slow. Fin, with all his novice, was able to give him some work. People will say thats cause he got hit with that beam earlier, not me, Fin would've been murked if it was any other sith, injury or not. Now put Rey in the same position, where force is basically no advantage and she can actively read the fear in his motion, he got that work handed to him. By the time he fights these characters, they aren't afraid of him. Intimidation factor loss, force even, he loses.

Overall, we're gonna see Fin develop into a character who will more than a sidekick. He's an initiative taker. I don't think he's a coward at all, he's doing whats needed to survive against an unstoppable movement, and if he aligns with the rebels he's one of their best assets. Rey will definitely come back in ep8 hard body, don't need to say more about that... kylo the same, but im interested in what completely his training means, and who else got that training. I imagine an akatsuki thing going on, bunch of straight up sith demons, then kylo for vice president, then snoke coming up thanos style to end the trilogy.


You thought Kylo was nice??? He barely bodied Finn... And Ren with no training sliced his ass up...I know he is young but he is the WOAT villian for right now
 

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I think she will get humbled in Ep 8. And I got a bad feeling we will get an "I am your father" moment. I can see that shyt with Leia and Rey right before Kylo kills Leia to "complete his training" from Snoke. Leia reveals she is her mom and that Kylo is her brother.
I dunno about her being Han and Luke's kid. think they would have mentioned it
 

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smh. this film was trash. surprised at how much i didnt like it. wasnt bad wasnt good either. they did my man john boyega wrong. had him looking like space django, not knowing how to do shyt. everyone else having to rescue his ass. did he even do anything of merit other than be scared and hopeless. not his fault, its jj abrams fault. as for the chick. thats what happens when feminist culture takes over everything. shyt was star wars for females. nothing agaist that but was not my cupof tea. chick knew everything, was correcting everyone, whooping the bad guys, flying space ships, whoping the bad guy after tha bad guy gave boyega that ass whooping . smh. they emasculated my nikka john boyega. wont be seeing the next 2 since its clear what the agenda is. .

Why do I get the feeling there are white boys saying the same thing about Boyega being in this film. Your reasoning for not liking Rey sounds just like racist white boys who don't like black characters who have too much shine in a movie.
 

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I will add spoilers later, but my initial viewing is that it is worthy to hang with the OT and leagues more coherent than the PT.

This is what fans of SW have been saying all along, give the actors some direction with script and focus less on cgi-effects and the story would be great. JJ handled the property fantastically.

The interactions between characters were organic and not forced, Finn, Rey, Poe, B88, Chewie, Han, all held it down. Perfect casting for Kylo Ren as he delivered a great performance and probably would have been a better Anakin imho than Christensen.... Though we aren't far off if we pay attention to the story. The comedic timing was perfect as can be, almost the same level of dark humor that was present in the OT.

The score was very underwhelming and relied on old themes to carry the film, though understandably Williams is over 80+ years old.

Initial Score: 4/5
 

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They alluded to using clones in passing. I think they may have moved on from the Jango clones to full on genetic engineering and basically just growing people. That would explain why Finn only has a number and not a name and knows nothing of a family. but thats just a hair brained theory.
makes sense. I thought they just brain washed the kids from a very young age


Han and Luke? :wtf:

:mjlol: i fukked up.
 

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Credibility is relative, please stop playing dumb. We're talking about credibility within this realm, according the rules that have been established by this fantasy universe.

it's not about playing dumb, and I am following the rules

all things are possible with the Force, and you can go back to the EU stuff, or from just the movies/animated everyone wielded it differently

Luke had NO TRAINING and was able to wield the force to destroy the Empire's war machine Death Star
Leia had NO TRAINING and was able to resist mind probes to the location of the Rebel's secret base
all of that we'd seen before

Rey was able to wield it her way...and the mind trick did not work at first, she had to 'dig deeper' so to speak.

but i mean let's see how this story continues to play out over the next 2 movies, i'm sure we will get the 'explanation' as to why she was able to wield it so quickly since that seems to be controversial.

also IMO when she went to the basement of Maz's castle, it reminded me of when Luke went to area of Dagobah that was strong in the dark side of the Force. Very reminiscent.
 
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