Standing of the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan in the black community

[outordinary]

Black people don't need dianetics. It seemed like a business move. A way of thought from the mind of a real devil and it seem like a bad mix but im not in the NOI so I can only speak as an outsider.

Likewise, I hope to join once I can get to a mosque. I was just mentioning that malcolm x has been used to mess up the NOI's image more than the dianetics thing. The minister only mentioned it, its not like they are teaching it.

I will say, you may say we don't need it, but you have to agree that some of our race need some type of therapy. There is a lot of rape that goes on in families, if you don't have any who are victims to it well good for you, but you have to think past yourself. If you just say we don't need this and don't need that, then you aren't seeing everything that is happening which most black folks aren't seeing the big picture.

@Mowgli And for anyone else that asks about dianetics:

 

[CEITEDMOFO]

They have my respect.

 

[Self_Born7]

what happened to every person, who outshined the NOI and/or Farakhan.

 

[CEITEDMOFO]

@motion order
@outordinary

 

[Free White & 21]

Boyce and Farrakhan working together



Boyce always stood tall for Farrakhan. Even when he fukked up and let Yvette publicly disrespect the minister, the minister forgave him and continued to support him

 

[SirReginald]

I will always support Elijah Muhammad for being a social reformer for the Black community. Also, he helped misfit brothas establish businesses in the hood. The NOI taught Malcolm and made Malcolm become a free thinker. For that the NOI of the old has my respect. As for Farrakhan some issues he speaks on I agree and some I disagree.

 

[Losttribe]

NoI was comprimised Farrakhan is a fraud and he solidified he was a fraud and compromised when he kicked out Khalid Muhhammod.
Also NoI was infiltrated and destablized internally at the worst time possible, that and kicking out Malcolm X destroyed the organization's potential to exert influence.

How can you speak on the Dr khalid situation.... That was more of a father and son thing and ignorant people should Stay out of it.

And no one man is larger than the group is Key to noi success.
Malcolm kicked people out For Less... And he broke rule then Ran to white people to snitch (not to fellow blacks)

 

[Losttribe]

The FBI was trying to, and successfully drove a wedge between Malcolm and Elijah.

Being infiltrated does not mean the organization or mission is completely or even significantly compromised. The Nation of Islam grew stronger in numbers as well as assets all the way up to 1975.


Farrakhan appointed Khalid as his National spokesman. Farrakhan gave Khalid this "national attention" you speak of. The fact that you're even comparing Farrakhan and Malcolm to Farrakhan and Khalid proves that you don't know what you're talking about. At the time of the Million Youth March in NYC, Khalid was no longer part of "The Black Muslim."

Malcolm was never kicked out the Nation. There was no such title as "director of communication." You are clueless to what Farrakhan's actual position and assignment was in the mid-60's.


Farrakhan himself, and on plenty of occasions, explained his relationship with Scientology. You can go right on YouTube and hear for yourself.

The simple fact that you never mentioned Elijah Muhammad in your little "history" of The Nation of Islam, shows your just making sh-t up, or at best, going by 4th hand hearsay.

Exactly .


I cant beleive some of the fools on this thread

 

[David_TheMan]

How can you speak on the Dr khalid situation.... That was more of a father and son thing and ignorant people should Stay out of it.

And no one man is larger than the group is Key to noi success.
Malcolm kicked people out For Less... And he broke rule then Ran to white people to snitch (not to fellow blacks)

Did you know about Khalid and Farakhan? If you didn't you should stay out of it as well correct?

Didn't say one man was larger than the NoI.
NoI posts letters on their site to this day detailing how they were used by the FBI to take Malcolm X out. FBI did not make Farakhan draw cartoons that called for the death of Malcolm X.

I"m not going to go on and on and repeat what I've already written.

That said getting in bed with the cult of scientology tells me all I need to know about the NoI and Farrakhan

 

[Losttribe]

what happened to every person, who outshined the NOI and/or Farakhan.

None of these men Out shined the Teachings of Elijah Muhammad.... Thats illogical due to them being Made by the Teachings. These two brothers killed themselves. Dr. Khalid, who all respect is due to the brother... Was given wisdom, a platform, the Sun moon and stars.. Made a God and he wanted to die a panther. His choice.

 

[Losttribe]

Did you know about Khalid and Farakhan? If you didn't you should stay out of it as well correct?

Didn't say one man was larger than the NoI.
NoI posts letters on their site to this day detailing how they were used by the FBI to take Malcolm X out. FBI did not make Farakhan draw cartoons that called for the death of Malcolm X.

I"m not going to go on and on and repeat what I've already written.

That said getting in bed with the cult of scientology tells me all I need to know about the NoI and Farrakhan

I meet Dr. Khalid and was mentored by him as a kid. I met THE HONORABLE minister and he has basically given me one of the best black women on Earth as a wife, she was developed by him.

I know how it goes, but look at Khalids own words.... He was hurt... Til the end he kept calling Farrakhan his father.


And FACT IS the noi didnt kill Brother Malcolm- the gov did. Thats an actual fact, no debate. Of course after verbal and media attavk after attack against his OWN black brothers (if u know the history) the NOI brothers didnt like him, but why should they. Malcolm himself taught "that is the definition of a hypocrite"

 

[Losttribe]

Did you know about Khalid and Farakhan? If you didn't you should stay out of it as well correct?

Didn't say one man was larger than the NoI.
NoI posts letters on their site to this day detailing how they were used by the FBI to take Malcolm X out. FBI did not make Farakhan draw cartoons that called for the death of Malcolm X.

I"m not going to go on and on and repeat what I've already written.

That said getting in bed with the cult of scientology tells me all I need to know about the NoI and Farrakhan

The science of dianitics and auditing... Pre date the religion of Scientology. So the noi allows whose who feel they need it to use the science- but noi members do not subscribe to Scientology. At all

 

[Losttribe]

The thing is NOI teach some of the truth but not the whole truth and personally I don't like how the did maclom. White people as evil as they are would have never killed such a great leader who was giving his who life for them and just wanted help his people.

You dont know that Malcolm ATTACKED the noi over and over and over and over and over verbally, and in the media and hired armed guards against his brothers (who dont carry guns) BEFORE THE NOI verbally dissed him??

All they did was put him out. And he was in his feelings. This is Actual Fact sir.

And the NOI does teach the whole truth... There are many parts rolled out over the last 83 yrs... And it covers it all on different leactures, books, and lessons...

 

[thewarrior05]

You dont know that Malcolm ATTACKED the noi over and over and over and over and over verbally, and in the media and hired armed guards against his brothers (who dont carry guns) BEFORE THE NOI verbally dissed him??

All they did was put him out. And he was in his feelings. This is Actual Fact sir.

And the NOI does teach the whole truth... There are many parts rolled out over the last 83 yrs... And it covers it all on different leactures, books, and lessons...

fukk out of here

 

[David_TheMan]

I meet Dr. Khalid and was mentored by him as a kid. I met THE HONORABLE minister and he has basically given me one of the best black women on Earth as a wife, she was developed by him.

I know how it goes, but look at Khalids own words.... He was hurt... Til the end he kept calling Farrakhan his father.


And FACT IS the noi didnt kill Brother Malcolm- the gov did. Thats an actual fact, no debate. Of course after verbal and media attavk after attack against his OWN black brothers (if u know the history) the NOI brothers didnt like him, but why should they. Malcolm himself taught "that is the definition of a hypocrite"

Yes they had a falling out and its nice that he still revered him, what does that have to do with what I've said about their falling out though? Does it change anything?

The NoI was compromised by the FBI with agents in place in the organization. NoI fell for the FBI meddling and Farrakhan was involved in that, Farrkhan did write cartoons calling for his death, the NoI did send death threats to Malcolm X, these are also documented facts. So don't try to act as if the NoI was also complicit in his death as well.

The science of dianitics and auditing... Pre date the religion of Scientology. So the noi allows whose who feel they need it to use the science- but noi members do not subscribe to Scientology. At all

Dianetics isn't a science and neither is auditing and it doesn't matter if it predates scientology it all comes from the same maker L Ron Hubbard.
So again, that Farrakhan willingly is getting in bed and giving funds to a cult like Scientology is a major issue and shows major issues with his reasoning and integrity.