Standing of the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan in the black community

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Yes they had a falling out and its nice that he still revered him, what does that have to do with what I've said about their falling out though? Does it change anything?

The NoI was compromised by the FBI with agents in place in the organization. NoI fell for the FBI meddling and Farrakhan was involved in that, Farrkhan did write cartoons calling for his death, the NoI did send death threats to Malcolm X, these are also documented facts. So don't try to act as if the NoI was also complicit in his death as well.


Dianetics isn't a science and neither is auditing and it doesn't matter if it predates scientology it all comes from the same maker L Ron Hubbard.
So again, that Farrakhan willingly is getting in bed and giving funds to a cult like Scientology is a major issue and shows major issues with his reasoning and integrity.
Farrakhan didnt give money to them.... And IF ALL we do as black people is ignore THE decades of good works of our own to Tell Ignorant Lies ^^about our own then....

And all black groups were hit w fbi agents in 60s... But fact Still is Farrakhan drew a cartooon but the GOV killed Malcolm. Period. We wanna pin it on our black brother because we are "scared to death negros" as Khalid said... And wont blame who really did it.



Using crakker propganda phrases like " get in bed with" when talking about dianitic... Dianitic... Is a noi option... It isnt pushed or required... But it has shows some results with people outside the noi so it was brought in as a option.... What the hell does it matter to you? How doe it affect you? Its ur opinon its ineffective, but ur opinon means nothing, right?
 

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Farrakhan didnt give money to them.... And IF ALL we do as black people is ignore THE decades of good works of our own to Tell Ignorant Lies ^^about our own then....

And all black groups were hit w fbi agents in 60s... But fact Still is Farrakhan drew a cartooon but the GOV killed Malcolm. Period. We wanna pin it on our black brother because we are "scared to death negros" as Khalid said... And wont blame who really did it.



Using crakker propganda phrases like " get in bed with" when talking about dianitic... Dianitic... Is a noi option... It isnt pushed or required... But it has shows some results with people outside the noi so it was brought in as a option.... What the hell does it matter to you? How doe it affect you? Its ur opinon its ineffective, but ur opinon means nothing, right?

Farrakhan had to pay money to get the NoI licensed as auditors. That is giving CoS money.
Stop copping pleas and failing to address why Farrakhan is in bed with a evil cult.
Have some respect for yourself, this is embarassing.

The government/FBI most certainly did kill Malcolm X, I don't deny this, so what point are you making?

Dianetics is the property of a cult. Getting in bed with isn't white people propaganda phrase, you seem to be losing all ability to even try to make a logical argument.
Dianetics isn't scientific, how can a supposed holy religion get in bed and financially support a cult that kidnaps people, seperates children from their family, and believes in a faith directly counter to what you preach and still be considered holy? It can't.

My opinion is my opinion, if I mean nothing you should have never quoted me and had a discussion, but since you did and I'm replying to you, either continue the discussion or hush up and go away. Fact is you can't defend the bullshyt Farrakhan is doing, and you'd have more integrity by saying you disagree with it, than simply trying to argue how its okay because you are part of a cult of personality centered on Farrakhan
 
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Farrakhan had to pay money to get the NoI licensed as auditors. That is giving CoS money.
Stop copping pleas and failing to address why Farrakhan is in bed with a evil cult.
Have some respect for yourself, this is embarassing.

The government/FBI most certainly did kill Malcolm X, I don't deny this, so what point are you making?

Dianetics is the property of a cult. Getting in bed with isn't white people propaganda phrase, you seem to be losing all ability to even try to make a logical argument.
Dianetics isn't scientific, how can a supposed holy religion get in bed and financially support a cult that kidnaps people, seperates children from their family, and believes in a faith directly counter to what you preach and still be considered holy? It can't.

My opinion is my opinion, if I mean nothing you should have never quoted me and had a discussion, but since you did and I'm replying to you, either continue the discussion or hush up and go away. Fact is you can't defend the bullshyt Farrakhan is doing, and you'd have more integrity by saying you disagree with it, than simply trying to argue how its okay because you are part of a cult of personality centered on Farrakhan
Lol, there are many dianitics orgd outside of Scientology. And Farrakhan didn't pay anything. Some members went off on their own n got it. And the majority who got it... Got it pre 2010 ish when he mentioned it. Some members were already on it.

And if you're a Farrakhan hater, then thats ur own personal issue. I hope you gain understanding.
 

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Lol, there are many dianitics orgd outside of Scientology. And Farrakhan didn't pay anything. Some members went off on their own n got it. And the majority who got it... Got it pre 2010 ish when he mentioned it. Some members were already on it.

And if you're a Farrakhan hater, then thats ur own personal issue. I hope you gain understanding.
Dianetics is the owned property of Scientology. There are no Dianetic organizations that aren't licensed by scientology because they would sue.

YOu are right Farrakhan isn't paying anything, he is encouraging members of the NoI to pay and saying you can't advance unless you are clear. SMh
The Mothership of All Alliances: Scientology and the Nation of Islam
Jesse Muhammad says he didn’t pay more than $50 for the certification course he took after the first Rosemont seminar and that the Church offered the option of a payment plan. Soon, though, he started getting daily e-mails checking in on his progress or recommending new books and was informed that the initial course didn’t actually confer permanent certification. Unless he gets a “gold seal” within a certain amount of time, he’ll have to start all over again. “Scientology is a pay-as-you-go religion,” says Bey, the former Nation minister. “It has never cared about African Americans. ... These are poor people and they are being exploited.”

Farrakhan hasn’t been deterred by such criticisms. In another video posted recently by Anonymous, dated fall 2010, Farrakhan addressed a small dinner crowd in a building identified as Scientology’s Celebrity Centre. The 79-year-old minister talked of his plans to build a training center in Chicago just like the one in Clearwater. “Nobody can lead in our Nation until and unless they become clear,” he said, referring to Scientology’s most enlightened state. The alliance with the Nation, he hoped, would be a “long and beautiful relationship.”
 

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Dianetics is the owned property of Scientology. There are no Dianetic organizations that aren't licensed by scientology because they would sue.

YOu are right Farrakhan isn't paying anything, he is encouraging members of the NoI to pay and saying you can't advance unless you are clear. SMh
The Mothership of All Alliances: Scientology and the Nation of Islam
99 percent of the NOI isnt thinking about this... Its media and hater hype. Its available but most arent thinking of it. So that shines even more Light on the Frauds who Hype it up bigger than it is.

And there are and always have been dianitics groups outside of Sci.
 

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99 percent of the NOI isnt thinking about this... Its media and hater hype. Its available but most arent thinking of it. So that shines even more Light on the Frauds who Hype it up bigger than it is.

And there are and always have been dianitics groups outside of Sci.
If you don't care about your leader saying the shyt he is saying and getting in bed with the CoS that says more for the members of the NoI an a lack of critical thinking.
Dianetics was created by L Ron Hubbard, it exists and is owned by the CoS. There is no dianetics without the CoS and no auditing without a relationship with the CoS
 

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I meet Dr. Khalid and was mentored by him as a kid. I met THE HONORABLE minister and he has basically given me one of the best black women on Earth as a wife, she was developed by him.

I know how it goes, but look at Khalids own words.... He was hurt... Til the end he kept calling Farrakhan his father.


And FACT IS the noi didnt kill Brother Malcolm- the gov did. Thats an actual fact, no debate. Of course after verbal and media attavk after attack against his OWN black brothers (if u know the history) the NOI brothers didnt like him, but why should they. Malcolm himself taught "that is the definition of a hypocrite"
didn't he admit to his daughter he had a role.
start@59 secs
 
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If you don't care about your leader saying the shyt he is saying and getting in bed with the CoS that says more for the members of the NoI an a lack of critical thinking.
Dianetics was created by L Ron Hubbard, it exists and is owned by the CoS. There is no dianetics without the CoS and no auditing without a relationship with the CoS
Dianetics and CoS are two separate entities. You don't have to be a member of the CoS to be audited
 

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Dianetics and CoS are two separate entities. You don't have to be a member of the CoS to be audited
Didn't say you had to be a member to be audited, I said you have to pay the CoS to be a auditor. Now have can you not have a relationship with the CoS but have 1000+ auditors and claim that you have to be "clear" to be in a leadership position in the NoI?
 
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didn't he admit to his daughter he had a role.
start@59 secs

In other words, fanning the hostel/agitated/disappointed climate against Malcom
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being apart of the plan to have him assassinated

Didn't say you had to be a member to be audited, I said you have to pay the CoS to be a auditor.
oh my bad.
 
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