Spin Thread: Do “European Beauty Standards” effect Black Men?

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societies generally don't care about the looks of males as much as we do females to put it bluntly plus there is the irony in the stereotype of black men being hyper masculine often working out in our favor.
 

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The Original Man and the First Gods
The black man (with 2 black parents) is the original man.

Biologically and physically, we are the standard. Period.

Never felt inferior to another race of men.... I've always felt superior.

but European standards affect us differently.... I been wearing European suits my entire life since I was a toddler.... My father and uncles wear European suits and drive European vehicles..... We dont wear West African Kaftans.... We've adapted to the European dress code because the European suit is now seen as the uniform of business and excellence
But the Northern Nigerians and other WA are still holding it down.
 
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I couldn't disagree more. Of course there are examples on both sides of the spectrum that we can point to, but if we look at the most storied sex-symbol men of the last 10-20 years, brown and dark skinned men is what comes to mind (no homo :dame:..)

Denzel Washington
Tyson Beckford
Idris Elba

Like I don't think anyone is putting Shemar Moore or Chris Brown in the same conversation with Denzel Washington. He's considered the paragon of good looks, among just about everyone.
Denzel is considered the “paragon of good looks, among just about everyone”?

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Let’s be honest alotta bw are just as colorist as the men they whine about. That’s why the colorism debate when it comes to dating is a joke.
This is true. I’ve seen it with my own eyes but colorism is waaaaay more detrimental to black woman than black men. When dark skinned features are put on a pedestal of masculinity, it’s not that bad for black men.

Meanwhile black women, especially dark skinned ones, have a tough rough image imposed on them for centuries, whilst fairer skinned women have been made a paragon of femininity.
 

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I couldn't disagree more. Of course there are examples on both sides of the spectrum that we can point to, but if we look at the most storied sex-symbol men of the last 10-20 years, brown and dark skinned men is what comes to mind (no homo :dame:..)

Denzel Washington
Tyson Beckford
Idris Elba

Like I don't think anyone is putting Shemar Moore or Chris Brown in the same conversation with Denzel Washington. He's considered the paragon of good looks, among just about everyone.
Breh I said the same thing years ago on here you got women online going crazy over lance gross,Donny savage,Damson Idris and kofi siriboe but yet women don’t like dark skin men :skip: you had niqqas on this site legit say light skin women don’t fukk with dark skin men at all :dead: that’s when I knew niqqas either don’t talk to black women at all or it’s a lot of posters pretending to be black
 

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This is true. I’ve seen it with my own eyes but colorism is waaaaay more detrimental to black woman than black men. When dark skinned features are put on a pedestal of masculinity, it’s not that bad for black men.

Meanwhile black women, especially dark skinned ones, have a tough rough image imposed on them for centuries, whilst fairer skinned women have been made a paragon of femininity.



exactly great post my homie & i hate to sound like a broken record but we gotta stop doing this feast or famine thing. OF COURSE white beauty standards affect black men. have yall heard this nikka kwame brown (who i do not fukk with at all b) rant and rave about light skin men? it's wild unhealthy. it done went from a funny ass joke about matt barnes to all out sounding like a scorned LSA bytch. kwame must go into fits everytime a damn craig david video comes on BET Soul lmao. goddamn he's self hating

so we know it affects black men too. great. but does kwame represent the majority of the brown to dark majority featured monoracial black male community? hell no. not even close. besides the obvious differences in gender dynamics such as men being able to use money, power, accomplishments, and humor as erotic capital while bytches are left stranded.... remember for all my flabby and sick generation x nikkas it changed for us in 1992 but not our sistas

before 1992 light skin & non light skin minority featured nikkas were on top just like light skin & non light skin minority featured bytches. lol first let me explain that non light skin minority featured thing. the males would be special ed (my current avy), philip michael thomas who played tubbs on miami vice, and john canada terrell who played greer childs in spike lee's debut she's gotta have it. the female version of them would be rozonda chilli thomas, tatyana ali, and ananda lewis

think about it, wouldn't we look at chilli funny style if she came out like kelly rowland talmbout how it was hard to be the darkest chick in TLC? of course lol we never even thought about it. them hoes are pretty much honorary light skin chicks. nikkas are also safe to say they love them without being accused of self hatred, though a more nuanced chick could break out featurism on you. but that's rare unless she's wild shea butter with a septum piercing & a poster of michael fassbender on her wall lol

but what's wild is that it was white men and women in mass media who got al b sure, taimak, el debarge, and christopher williams out the paint in favor of darker brothers. it was so gradual we ain't even know. all of a sudden my childhood friend vicky who always loved light skin nikkas found herself gushing over wesley snipes & michael jordan in 1991. then it was tyson beckford and treach in 1992. then it was tupac & snoop in 1993. all of a sudden by the time we got to 1995 the takeover was complete and light skin nikkas were officially done on a grand scale when it came to promotion in mass media as being the premier symbols of black masculine beauty. and bytches did what they always did, follow

which is why i always argued with these bytches that yall ain't more woke than we are or conscious, bytch please. ironically it's just like yall tell us all the time, you're conditioned by the media. mc lyte told yall she gotta get a ruffneck and some light skin nikka with curly hair and hazel eyes didn't fit that description.

unfortunately, white supremacy is devious because what they also did back then over the next 15 years to create dissension is remove all of our lela rochons, big lez's, swv's, erica alexander's, mokenstefs, jade's, browstone's, adina howard's, monica calhouns, etc etc etc and replace them with redbones, yella bones, biracials, and latheenas. regulating our beautiful sistas to stripper culture symbols of masturbation in rap videos by the early 2000's. ki toy johnson, buffie tha body, bria myles, etc etc.

then sistas complained about that but didn't see the entire devious picture that led to this. so them white folks laughed and said ok, fine! and then replaced the big booty black women with big booty non black women who looked damn near white and then eventually became straight up pawgs

the whole while though the devils keep promoting monoracial black man as being these beautiful creatures. they can't lead or think like strong black women can. but goddamn they're hot. but black women are the new black men. and black men are the new black women. mission complete, white mommy and daddy cackle collectively and here we are. complete gender role reversal. we are NOT better looking than our women. it's a hideous lie, all bytches look better than their dudes and black people are no different
 

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I would say no, men are judged by height and masculinity. Compared to some ethnicities white men are taller and could be considered more masculine, that being said this doesn’t effect black men.
 
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