Spike Lee's going in on Black Brit actors

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I mean damn they just went from not playing crackheads and gang bangers anymore and now there's opportunities for them and all we can talk about is cause they're from England we should be shytting on them.

And then you wonder why they don't give our black asses shyt when they make it. I would too, fukk y'all hating asses. Crab ass nikkas.

Do you see Downey attacking Bale?!?

This is stupid ass comparison and y'all need to stop makiing these comparisons to White people.

White Americans are rich as hell with the world in their palms. White American control damn near everything worth controlling.

Native Black Americans aren't. It would be different we just had all the opportunities in the world.
We have limited opportunities and often times, we are telling American stories, with an American production crew, and they'll go all the way to Britain, to find a Black person, when there are more Black people in the USA than in Britain. There ain't that many of them.

This is why Black Americans don't get to have anything, because Black Americans don't like to assert power and hurt people's feelings. These Black Brits have no history in American cinema, didn't pave the way for anybody of color on screen or in entertainment but they get to skip all the struggle Black Americans had to do and still have to do just get a movie made, because they can't do it in their own country, because White American decision makers, give no fukks and just want some cheap talent.

It's not a coincidence once Black American film and tv renaissance of the 1990s, we get a bunch of Black Brits playing Black Americans in Black American dominated stories, with American film production and American producers. It took long and arduous work and we just gonna turn our segment of the entertainment industry over to the needs and desires of production companies that don't care about the Black American struggle, just to get some fukking movies?

I much rather be like the Italian Americans and only be depicted as gangsters if the film crew and production and actors are all Black Americans. And how does Black Brits playing Black Americans help Black British cinema or television or Black Brit culture, do they not care about their people?

This is about Black American labor and popular Black American culture, it's about not Black Brits, it's about Black Americans building Black American cinema and television and only to be replaced with cheaper limited Black talent that are native English speakers and then being told that Black Brits are just better at acting and they have special training when they really just pretend to be Black American and play out a Black American life. That's all they do. You telling me that, we should be okay with that? They are saying we don't know our own life and are enable of playing ourselves.

This is about the devaluation of Black American acting and storytelling. It's important to have Black American stories, with Black American actors, with Black American directors, with Black American producers, because that is how we maintain our memory and how we make opportunities for those that will come after us. If there was nobody that emphasized that, we wouldn't be where we are. Everybody does it or at least tries to do it or wishes they can do it. Chinese government has a foreign film quota on for a reason, they don't want their people to look at people that ain't them and have their film industry high jacked by Americans.

Having Black Brits in Black American cinema and TV helps no one but American production companies that like cheap talent.
 
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Those folks arent part of his click and still doesnt take away from the claim of him mistreating these unknowns especially when you see people you names were one and done.



nikka who did he name is one and dones?


nikka just shut the fukk up :russ:
 

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This is stupid ass comparison and y'all need to stop makiing these comparisons to White people.

White Americans are rich as hell with the world in their palms. White American control damn near everything worth controlling.

Native Black Americans aren't. It would be different we just had all the opportunities in the world.
We have limited opportunities and often times, we are telling American stories, with an American production crew, and they'll go all the way to Britain, to find a Black person, when there are more Black people in the USA than in Britain. There ain't that many of them.

This is why Black Americans don't get to have anything, because Black Americans don't like to assert power and hurt people's feelings. These Black Brits have no history in American cinema, didn't pave the way for anybody of color on screen or in entertainment but they get to skip all the struggle Black Americans had to do and still have to do just get a movie made, because they can't do it in their own country, because White American decision makers, give no fukks and just want some cheap talent.

It's not a coincidence once Black American film and tv renaissance of the 1990s, we get a bunch of Black Brits playing Black Americans in Black American dominated stories, with American film production and American producers. It took long and arduous work and we just gonna turn our segment of the entertainment industry over to the needs and desires of production companies that don't care about the Black American struggle, just to get some fukking movies?

I much rather be like the Italian Americans and only be depicted as gangsters if the film crew and production and actors are all Black Americans. And how does Black Brits playing Black Americans help Black British cinema or television or Black Brit culture, do they not care about their people?

This is about Black American labor and popular Black American culture, it's about not Black Brits, it's about Black Americans building Black American cinema and television and only to be replaced with cheaper limited Black talent that are native English speakers and then being told that Black Brits are just better at acting and they have special training when they really just pretend to be Black American and play out a Black American life. That's all they do. You telling me that, we should be okay with that? They are saying we don't know our own life and are enable of playing ourselves.

This is about the devaluation of Black American acting and storytelling. It's important to have Black American stories, with Black American actors, with Black American directors, with Black American producers, because that is how we maintain our memory and how we make opportunities for those that will come after us. If there was nobody that emphasized that, we wouldn't be where we are. Everybody does it or at least tries to do it or wishes they can do it. Chinese government has a foreign film quota on for a reason, they don't want their people to look at people that ain't them and have their film industry high jacked by Americans.

Having Black Brits in Black American cinema and TV helps no one but American production companies that like cheap talent.
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Elba and crew owe no one shyt.

Not one of y'all said shyt when he was Stringer Bell but now y'all wanna talk this shyt. FOH.
 
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Listen, acting is acting. It doesn't matter where your from. I got love for my foreign black actors, some of them did give some good performances in American projects. Lupita and Idris be killing it. shoot Lupita won her 1st Oscar playing an American Slave. With that said, Black Americans BUILT the Black Film Industry in America so Blacks from ALL OVER THE WORLD can have acting jobs. Until Black Brits do that for us they really can't say sh!t about how Spike or Samuel feels about the subject. This idea that "Well they are racist in the UK so we HAD to leave to America to get work". Negro Please. Like the White Supremacist US Film Industry isn't heavily racist. Yet Black Americans were able to FIND A WAY. I'm tired of Blacks using that excuse and then turn around and talk sh!t about us here in the US when we've built our own LANE here.

Also stop acting like Black Americans aren't "Classically Trained". All that Theater works means jack if your American Accent sound like a rap video. Black Americans built this when we were able to find a way in the damn belly of the beast and build a lane for Black Cinema. Also this need to be said. Some of these Black Brits do HORRIBLE American Accents. They learned how to talk like us mostly from stereotypical rap videos. Our Accents aren't easy, Black People in America talk differently regionally. They love to get on Will Smith about "Concussion" but there little "Hip Hop" Accents be wack. Also Boyega is out of pocket. His Ass wouldn't even Be in Star Wars if it wasn't for Black Americans like Billie Dee Williams, James Earl Jones and Samuel L Jackson breaking down those barriers. Also reading this thread it's clear many lack historical context of what Spike accomplished in Black Cinema.

Lastly when Will Smith, Denzel or Morgan Freeman play Africans, these are some of our BIGGEST Black stars in America. They bring DOLLARS to the role. Are these Black Brits bringing the same dollars to our roles? That's why they came to America because they said they weren't getting work back home. Also they aren't breaking the Box Office like Will Smith or Denzel does. So not only aren't they not bringing the dollars they aren't even Bigger Stars. They got a foreign Actor playing Harriet Tubman. She hasn't brought in the Box Office like a Angela Basset or even Viola Davis who are both Black American yet they skipped over them and went to her. Boyega needs to chill disrespecting Spike and Sam. It's not like his movies are doing well outside of Star Wars. He hasn't proven to be a bankable star yet unlike Sam who one of the highest grossing actors in History or Spike who has been make Classics for over 30 years. So I wouldn't say anyone is "Stealing" Jobs, I would say this idea that Black Brits "CAN'T" build a strong Black UK Film Industry is Bullsh!t. We did here, you can do it there. Anything else is just excuses.
 

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Ninjas arguments are over the place :heh:

Disney or Comcast making a movie with black people in it isn’t “black cinema” it’s just a product they’re selling just like everything else they sell.

There were 3 guys that could have built a sustainable black cinema industry: Spike, Keenan, and Townsend.

For whatever reason they were unable to do it. That’s at least partly their own faults.

Lastly, there shouldn’t be any reason why spike can’t get a Sandler like deal with Netflix or Amazon.

Ninjas just emotional as usual :heh:
 
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Listen, acting is acting. It doesn't matter where your from. I got love for my foreign black actors, some of them did give some good performances in American projects. Lupita and Idris be killing it. shoot Lupita won her 1st Oscar playing an American Slave. With that said, Black Americans BUILT the Black Film Industry in America so Blacks from ALL OVER THE WORLD can have acting jobs. Until Black Brits do that for us they really can't say sh!t about how Spike or Samuel feels about the subject. This idea that "Well they are racist in the UK so we HAD to leave to America to get work". Negro Please. Like the White Supremacist US Film Industry isn't heavily racist. Yet Black Americans were able to FIND A WAY. I'm tired of Blacks using that excuse and then turn around and talk sh!t about us here in the US when we've built our own LANE here.

Also stop acting like Black Americans aren't "Classically Trained". All that Theater works means jack if your American Accent sound like a rap video. Black Americans built this when we were able to find a way in the damn belly of the beast and build a lane for Black Cinema. Also this need to be said. Some of these Black Brits do HORRIBLE American Accents. They learned how to talk like us mostly from stereotypical rap videos. Our Accents aren't easy, Black People in America talk differently regionally. They love to get on Will Smith about "Concussion" but there little "Hip Hop" Accents be wack. Also Boyega is out of pocket. His Ass wouldn't even Be in Star Wars if it wasn't for Black Americans like Billie Dee Williams, James Earl Jones and Samuel L Jackson breaking down those barriers. Also reading this thread it's clear many lack historical context of what Spike accomplished in Black Cinema.

Lastly when Will Smith, Denzel or Morgan Freeman play Africans, these are some of our BIGGEST Black stars in America. They bring DOLLARS to the role. Are these Black Brits bringing the same dollars to our roles? That's why they came to America because they said they weren't getting work back home. Also they aren't breaking the Box Office like Will Smith or Denzel does. So not only aren't they not bringing the dollars they aren't even Bigger Stars. They got a foreign Actor playing Harriet Tubman. She hasn't brought in the Box Office like a Angela Basset or even Viola Davis who are both Black American yet they skipped over them and went to her. Boyega needs to chill disrespecting Spike and Sam. It's not like his movies are doing well outside of Star Wars. He hasn't proven to be a bankable star yet unlike Sam who one of the highest grossing actors in History or Spike who has been make Classics for over 30 years. So I wouldn't say anyone is "Stealing" Jobs, I would say this idea that Black Brits "CAN'T" build a strong Black UK Film Industry is Bullsh!t. We did here, you can do it there. Anything else is just excuses.
So you're cool with Black Americans playing Africans but not Black brits playing Americans:francis:

Also Daniel Kaluuya was in Get Out that brought in a lot of money

Lupita who is African movies usually make money.

The more great black actors from wherever will only lead to more projects with black people. This xenophobia shyt is wack.

This thread is also surprisingly quite about Spike and co making fun of African names
 

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So you're cool with Black Americans playing Africans but not Black brits playing Americans:francis:

Also Daniel Kaluuya was in Get Out that brought in a lot of money

Lupita who is African movies usually make money.

The more great black actors from wherever will only lead to more projects with black people. This xenophobia shyt is wack.

This thread is also surprisingly quite about Spike and co making fun of African names

Yeah, the clip in OP cuts off the beginning where she calls Chiwitel Ejiofor "Chewy Toy" something something and John Boyega "John Puerto Rican Bodega"

Really? Dissing traditionally African names? Knowing that it's literally been proven that being black or having a "non-traditional" white name can get your job application tossed out the window before even getting an interview.

That's what they're doing on this show?

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Black people vs. Black people? Yeah, I'm out :patricelol:
 
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Huh? Directors have direct hiring influence

Spike has hired Afro-British in the past for acting roles

He said he hired them because they were cheap talent

Foreign blacks /Pan-Africanists hurt feelings in the thread

No hurt feelings, it just seems like this is something that he needs to address studios and producers about.
 

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So you're cool with Black Americans playing Africans but not Black brits playing Americans:francis:

Also Daniel Kaluuya was in Get Out that brought in a lot of money

Lupita who is African movies usually make money.

The more great black actors from wherever will only lead to more projects with black people. This xenophobia shyt is wack.

This thread is also surprisingly quite about Spike and co making fun of African names

LOL @ Xenophobia. How are Black Americans who Built the Black Film industry so Black Brits can even had damn Job "Xenophobic", Please. We built this sh!t here period. Nobody can tell Spike or Sam how they should feel. You are comparing Apples and Oranges. Denzel and Will or Morgan playing Africans were in American Productions they aren't going to Nigeria or South African film industry and doing the role. So it's a false equivalence to compare American Actors in American Productions to Foreign Actors coming to American Productions. Also I never said I had a problem with anyone playing anything. My point is this idea that Black Brits "HAD TO" come to America because the UK was too racist. To me that doesn't fly because we as Black Americans had to battle through Blackface and tons of Stereotypical trash to get where we are and we are still battling.
 

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I can't believe y'all instead of being happy that the John Boyega's of the world aren't playing a damn butler on BBC during the 1000th British Period piece soap opera and instead get a 3 dimensional role are saying this.

WTF is wrong with y'all for real? Damn nikkas really be salty.
 
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