Spike Lee's going in on Black Brit actors
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Bleed The Freak
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ITS A FANTASY WORLD CREATED BY AMERICANS.
IT DOESNT EXIST.
Director went to Africa for scouting. African clothing, dialect and culture all through the flick.
But now when I bring up Boseman it's
nah breh fiction.No shyt Wakanda don't exist. But why not cast an African actor? Where's y'all outrage?
How about Fishrburne as Othello? Freeman as Mandela?
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Director went to Africa for scouting. African clothing, dialect and culture all through the flick.
But now when I bring up Boseman it's
No shyt Wakanda don't exist. But why not cast an African actor? Where's y'all outrage?
ITS AN AMERICAN MOVIE, FROM AN AMERICAN COMIC BOOK, FILMED IN AMERICA.THIS THREAD IS ABOUT BRITS TAKING ROLES IN AMERICAN MOVIES WHICH THEY DID IN BLACK PANTHER TOO.
YOU HAVE TO FIND AN AMERICAN
STARRING IN AN AFRICAN MADE MOVIE
OR BRIT MADE MOVIE
TO MAKE A COMPARISON.
Bleed The Freak
Superstar
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT BRITS TAKING ROLES IN AMERICAN MOVIES WHICH THEY DID IN BLACK PANTHER TOO.
YOU HAVE TO FIND AN AMERICAN
STARRING IN AN AFRICAN MADE MOVIE
OR BRIT MADE MOVIE
TO MAKE A COMPARISON.
Cheadle in Hotel Rwanda.
Cheadle in the Ocean's flicks.
Will Smith Concussion.
Fit your narrative.
THESE ARE AMERICAN MOVIES.ARE YOU DENSE?
get these nets
Veteran
Thanks for posting the link, it gives context to the dialogue of the clip.
Harewood is 100% wrong here, though. In fact his comment is foolish. He would have been better off saying that in a case by case basis, the UK actors are just hitting home runs in the auditions. (or scoring goals would be a more culturally appropriate term). To me, that's only the real legit response that a Brit actor could make to any of the criticism.
Harewood was hurt by the comments from SLJ, and apparently created a bogus counter argument.
I'm on record in this thread calling Spike out for his hypocrisy on this topic, and I stand behind that, but Harewood sounds like a clown,here.
Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha
Superstar
No the issue was him saying black british people have stockholm syndromeWait they got their panties in a bunch cuz Spike say they're cheap?This shyt should be easily debunked if it wasn't true
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I been saying this shyt for years, breh. It's one thing to live in the country for better opportunities, it's a whole different thing to be calling yourself british/English and repping it hard. Especially when given our history with England. They be sounding like them old people who were on that "I'm british, not Jamaican" shyt.
There's literally a mf on this site who claims the English language as part of his culture, and another who called himself afro European
you know damn well people (obviously not everyone) do this. I saw it several times during my trips to france and Germany. Several posters on here can attest to this as well.
You aint gonna be able to pull that "you dont travel" shyt on everybody. You probably lying about all this traveling you be doing anyway. Just like you did about changing your "slave name" and being West Indian
Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha
Superstar
This is nonsense
I been saying this shyt for years, breh. It's one thing to live in the country for better opportunities, it's a whole different thing to be calling yourself british/English and repping it hard. Especially when given our history with England. They be sounding like them old people who were on that "I'm british, not Jamaican" shyt.
There's literally a mf on this site who claims the English language as part of his culture, and another who called himself afro European
you know damn well people (obviously not everyone) do this. I saw it several times during my trips to france and Germany. Several posters on here can attest to this as well.
You aint gonna be able to pull that "you dont travel" shyt on everybody. You probably lying about all this traveling you be doing anyway. Just like you did about changing your "slave name" and being West Indian
Jon didnt come to england, he was born there.
How is it any different from a black person claiming america?
CLOSE THIS fukkING THREAD.
ANYONE DOWNING SPIKE LOOKS LIKE A fukkING FOOL NOW.
Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha
Superstar
Based on one man?
CLOSE THIS fukkING THREAD.
ANYONE DOWNING SPIKE LOOKS LIKE A fukkING FOOL NOW.
Rapmastermind
Superstar
In that same article I posted. David Oyelowo who played Martin Luther King in "Selma" said and I Quote:
Oyelowo, however, he said he felt that, as an outsider, he had brought something particular and fresh to the civil rights leader’s story. He writes: “When I played King I wasn’t playing a civil rights legend, I was playing a man with tired smelly feet, who was anxious, proud, horny and flirtatious. I wasn’t saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as perhaps an ‘American brother’ would have [been]. To me it was sheer performance.”
"I wasn't saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as an American Brother would".....SMH. Yet Spike and Sam are wrong? Some Black people from other countries can say this about our experience and it's OK though right? There are so many things wrong with that quote and he should of been checked back then for it but it shows you how we've let a lot of sh!t slide in the past.
Edit: David O didn't say this in the article, David H said it but mentioned him. Typo on my part. Here's what David said about playing MLK:
Oyelowo: I had first read the script [for Selma] in 2007, and I had felt God tell me that I was going to play Dr. King in this film. So when I was finally cast in 2010, I thought, “Wow, here we go — God was right; I’m going to play this role.” And then I found myself playing opposite Dr. King in a completely different film. I can’t say that it prepared me; in all honesty, it sort of perplexed me at the time.
But doing films like The Butler, Red Tails, The Help and, indeed, Lincoln actually did all go towards preparing me for Selma, because I’m British, and all of those films required an enormous amount of research, all of which helped me, knowledge-wise, preparing for Selma.
But he did say also say this about the Role:
As a Brit, did you feel that you didn’t have a right to play MLK?
Oyelowo: You can feel when there’s a furrow in someone’s brow because a foreigner, so to speak, is playing such a beloved person, but two things feed into that. Firstly, if Meryl Streep can play Margaret Thatcher, then I can play Dr King. That’s a nice cultural exchange, I think. And secondly, being from elsewhere definitely served me well. I didn’t come at this thinking, “Oh, I know who he is, I know what he sounds like” – I had to go and build that from the ground up.
Would an American have done it differently?
Oyelowo: My argument is that, even if you were American, you couldn’t just turn up and [play him]. Lee Daniels cast me when he was attached as director and he told me that I came in without all that baggage that a lot of other people had. You can’t sustain a movie for two hours with an impersonation.
Notice there we are reading a constant theme that being a Black American entails "Baggage".
Oyelowo, however, he said he felt that, as an outsider, he had brought something particular and fresh to the civil rights leader’s story. He writes: “When I played King I wasn’t playing a civil rights legend, I was playing a man with tired smelly feet, who was anxious, proud, horny and flirtatious. I wasn’t saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as perhaps an ‘American brother’ would have [been]. To me it was sheer performance.”
"I wasn't saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as an American Brother would".....SMH. Yet Spike and Sam are wrong? Some Black people from other countries can say this about our experience and it's OK though right? There are so many things wrong with that quote and he should of been checked back then for it but it shows you how we've let a lot of sh!t slide in the past.
Edit: David O didn't say this in the article, David H said it but mentioned him. Typo on my part. Here's what David said about playing MLK:
Oyelowo: I had first read the script [for Selma] in 2007, and I had felt God tell me that I was going to play Dr. King in this film. So when I was finally cast in 2010, I thought, “Wow, here we go — God was right; I’m going to play this role.” And then I found myself playing opposite Dr. King in a completely different film. I can’t say that it prepared me; in all honesty, it sort of perplexed me at the time.
But doing films like The Butler, Red Tails, The Help and, indeed, Lincoln actually did all go towards preparing me for Selma, because I’m British, and all of those films required an enormous amount of research, all of which helped me, knowledge-wise, preparing for Selma.
But he did say also say this about the Role:
As a Brit, did you feel that you didn’t have a right to play MLK?
Oyelowo: You can feel when there’s a furrow in someone’s brow because a foreigner, so to speak, is playing such a beloved person, but two things feed into that. Firstly, if Meryl Streep can play Margaret Thatcher, then I can play Dr King. That’s a nice cultural exchange, I think. And secondly, being from elsewhere definitely served me well. I didn’t come at this thinking, “Oh, I know who he is, I know what he sounds like” – I had to go and build that from the ground up.
Would an American have done it differently?
Oyelowo: My argument is that, even if you were American, you couldn’t just turn up and [play him]. Lee Daniels cast me when he was attached as director and he told me that I came in without all that baggage that a lot of other people had. You can’t sustain a movie for two hours with an impersonation.
Notice there we are reading a constant theme that being a Black American entails "Baggage".
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In that same article I posted. David Oyelowo who played Martin Luther King in "Selma" said and I Quote:
Oyelowo, however, he said he felt that, as an outsider, he had brought something particular and fresh to the civil rights leader’s story. He writes: “When I played King I wasn’t playing a civil rights legend, I was playing a man with tired smelly feet, who was anxious, proud, horny and flirtatious. I wasn’t saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as perhaps an ‘American brother’ would have [been]. To me it was sheer performance.”
"I wasn't saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as an American Brother would".....SMH. Yet Spike and Sam are wrong? Some Black people from other countries can say this about our experience and it's OK though right? There are so many things wrong with that quote and he should of been checked back then for it but it shows you how we've let a lot of sh!t slide in the past.
THEY ALL THINK LIKE THIS.
CLOSE THIS fukkING THREAD.
Oooo!!
Director went to Africa for scouting. African clothing, dialect and culture all through the flick.
But now when I bring up Boseman it's
No shyt Wakanda don't exist. But why not cast an African actor? Where's y'all outrage?
How about Fishrburne as Othello? Freeman as Mandela?
Ooooo!!!!
Oooooo!
My turn!
Tom Cruise as W.E.B DuBois!!
get these nets
Veteran
No, read it again ,those quotes are Harewood's not David O.'sIn that same article I posted. David Oyelowo who played Martin Luther King in "Selma" said and I Quote:
Oyelowo, however, he said he felt that, as an outsider, he had brought something particular and fresh to the civil rights leader’s story. He writes: “When I played King I wasn’t playing a civil rights legend, I was playing a man with tired smelly feet, who was anxious, proud, horny and flirtatious. I wasn’t saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as perhaps an ‘American brother’ would have [been]. To me it was sheer performance.”
"I wasn't saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as an American Brother would".....SMH. Yet Spike and Sam are wrong? Some Black people from other countries can say this about our experience and it's OK though right? There are so many things wrong with that quote and he should of been checked back then for it but it shows you how we've let a lot of sh!t slide in the past.
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Like Oyelowo, however, he said he felt that, as an outsider, he had brought something particular and fresh to the civil rights leader’s story.
He writes: “When I played King I wasn’t playing a civil rights legend, I was playing a man with tired smelly feet, who was anxious, proud, horny and flirtatious. I wasn’t saddled with the idea of this being sacred territory as perhaps an ‘American brother’ would have [been]. To me it was sheer performance.”