Spike Lee - She's Got To Have It (Netflix Series)

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Getting tired of seeing male nudity in these netlfix hbo etc shows

They alway exagerated too. Everyone on netflix got a pornstar flaccid dikk?
 

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Mars has me cracking up in the final episode lmao!
I`m a college educated black man, and you must be around birds. Fake booty chicks get clowned.
Well "birds" are part of the back experience no? Some black women are birds but even once who aren't have body issues and shyt like that they worry about. If it's not booty shots it's throwing up their food to lose weight and shyt like that or it's just insecurities about some things.

Also at my college I spoke to one girl who mentioned she wanted to be a bottle waitress. Gentrification is also a topic they spoke on in the show.
breh this is everybody.

Nobody acts the way they really are in professional settings.
Its just people w/ low self esteem being extra.

True, code switching exists but it's harder when you're black and have to be damn near a whole other person just to make white folks comfortable. Women have to process their hair and guys have to change their voice and their identity just to make white folks comfortable and not to be professional but to make white people comfortable. Some black folks go so hard with it they become c00ns and caricatures of their selves or the white version of themselves and it shouldn't be like that.
 

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I'm on the fifth episode and man I'm pleasantly surprised. Spike is my favorite filmmaker of all time but I had all but gave up on him going into this.

I’m giving this the benefit of the doubt

I’m on episode 1 and I’m wondering if Spike needed to re-do this. I get that Netflix probably threw him the bread to polish off the rough ends of the film version but the original should’ve been lost in time. The 2017 “updates” to the original characters are meh. Nola with the septum ring damn near made me turn the shyt off and the Puerto Rican Mars Blackmon is a flat mistake. Greer is over the top and watch them make him bi-sexual just to pander to the times we’re in now. Jamie could be rolling with wayyyyyy more established females that won’t put him thru the bullshyt Nola puts him thru.

Show comes off as a more polished Brooklyn version of Insecure minus the insecurity (and yes I know the movie came light years before Insecure). The feminist angle plays to today’s current themes but it feels forced.

Kudos to Spike for the cinematography and I love the music selection even tho the concept feels forced and not as well integrated as Insecure.

I dunno brehs, this single woke thot with Shea butter shimmering shyt is played when it comes to the small screen. Where’s the evolution in these concepts? Real talk, Michael from Star Trek Discovery is the only black character on some next level shyt and not just because it’s 200+ years in the “future”.

Not sure if this show has multiple seasons in it because the original movie in itself was just okay and didn’t age well enough to warrant a “spinoff”.

I dunno brehs. I feel like Spike could’ve come to Netflix with a truly original body of work and they would’ve let him do the damn thing.
 

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raqueletta moss Character was spot on. Very common in the black community. I know I knew a few teachers, principals, fast food restaurant managers, church lady's, etc.... like her growing up :wow:


A few episodes left of this show so far it's :whoo:
 

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I know about the movie but never really peeped it. Is this lightskin dude supposed to be a gaye or just a artsy fartsy guy?

7 episodes in and I really dig this. I like how they play music and then show the album cover to end the scene.

Opal:banderas:

I thought the old cac at the art gallery been dead for a while I hit the:ohhh: when he came on screen.

I keep thinking Mars is Tekashi69:mjlol:
 

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I did 8 episodes over the weekend with my girl...might finish it tonight.

Some general thoughts:

This is a 30 minute show but it feels like a 48 minute show. I don't think that the episodes are slow, but somehow they feel longer than they actually are.

All child actors are annoying.

Nola is a loser, imo. She needs to get her life together.

The character I'm most sympathetic towards is the homeless artist

I like that they usually tell you what song is playing in the background

The MARS character is super annoying too often

The Greer character is :wrist:

Fat Joe is doing a great job. He's in his pocket, though.

The Overstreet character might as well get his own spin-off. He's the most interesting thing in the show.

When homegirl's ass popped. I nearly died.

Also, what was that song about Trump? They didn't mention the name of that one.
 
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His wife said outright he's 40 years old. Also, Nora herself said she's 27. But I agree Jamie is the best, most rounded, character. Off of 1st glance, you would of assumed he was some square ass uncle Tom that cannot identify his own blackness. But the truth is that this was a nikka from the streets that made it, and STILL HAVE TIES with the street. However, once he made it, he got married to a woman who he thought fit his status and with that changed a part of himself that he's ashamed of. I think he's attracted to Nora because she's the woman that liberates him, but his fear of not going out like his own father who left him is why he still in that dead end marriage. His wife is a total bytch... I hate he's stuck in that situation for the sake of his own son.

Agreed with most of this but he didn't get with a chick who he thought fit his status, he got with a chick who could ELEVATE his status. He used her family's wealth to build his own.

Also, I think it's unfair to call his wife a total bytch. He's a serial cheater! Nola was not the first and likely won't be the last person Jamie cheats with. Cheryl is uppity and looks down on poor black folk, but her bytchiness towards Jamie seems completely warranted.
 
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I did 8 episodes over the weekend with my girl...might finish it tonight.

Some general thoughts:

This is a 30 minute show but it feels like a 48 minute show. I don't think that the episodes are slow, but somehow they feel longer than they actually are.

All child actors are annoying.

Nola is a loser, imo. She needs to get her life together.

The character I'm most sympathetic towards is the homeless artist

I like that they usually tell you what song is playing in the background

The MARS character is super annoying too often

The Greer character is :wrist:

Fat Joe is doing a great job. He's in his pocket, though.

The Overstreet character might as well get his own spin-off. He's the most interesting thing in the show.

When homegirl's ass popped. I nearly died.

Also, what was that song about Trump? They didn't mention the name of that one.

Yeah me and my girl felt these episodes were damn near an hour until i looked at the run times.

And yeah Overstreet having his own show would be good.

Imo the OG movie worked because it was simply a movie and it can be viewed as art thus you could ignore much of the non realistic elements, this isnt the type of story you can build a universe around imo.

If anything having a general “spike lee universe” tv show and having Nola be a character in it would make more sense thus you would t have to stretch out non believable situations.
 
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Finished the show, wasn't perfect but overall I think it was a successful comeback for Spike and proved he still has a vision as an artist that's relevant to modern day times.

Agree with @ogc123 on the heavyhandidness and over the top didacticism which has always been Spike's weakness imo. I will say though, Spike's "throw every social issue at the wall and see what sticks" approach works better over 10 episodes than it does in one two hour movie so I didn't mind it as much here. But yeah, the whole gentrification subplot was way over the top and should've been handled with more subtlety. I almost cringed during the town hall "black lives matter" scene

I thought though the show did a good job at depicting modern day gentrified Brooklyn. The fact that it didn't show the "magic" of BK is because BK ain't the same as it was for people who grew up there. It makes sense that Master of None would have a more wide-eyed and optimistic view of BK being that it focuses on non-black hipsters who moved there versus the perspective of people who've been there their whole life only to see the neighborhood completely change

It was definitely a stretch for her to be paying so much less to live in that apartment and the part with Jamie giving her the 10K was definitely a bit ridiculous, but I did think it did a decent job showing how irresponsible she was financially, especially with her maxing out all three credit cards on that dress just to make a "statement"

Agreed that it pandered heavily to the black twitter "woke" crowd. With Spike, I think he still regrets that rape scene in the original movie so he was less critical of a character like Nola than he'd normally be for the tv series to make amends for it

I liked that the show gave more depth to the three dudes than the movie did. I was worried Greer would be nothing more than an over the top parody of a vain light skinned dude but they actually gave him some depth in the episode where he takes Nola out on a date and you get more of an understanding of why he is the way he is. And all the stuff with Jamie and his wife was some of the strongest elements of the show. Felt the most real and was handled with a lot of subtlety

Also liked how the show called out girls who are into "experimenting" with lesbians but ain't really about that life and how hurtful that actually is to actual lesbians who catch feelings. That lesbian scene with Nola was :whew: though

The subplot with the ass injections was unnecessary though the ass explosion scene was insane lol

What was up with Fat Joe's accent? I don't know what dude was trying to do there, should've just talked like he normally talks cuz he ain't a good enough actor to take a risk like that

Overall I'd give it a 7/10 and I'd watch a season 2 if they do it

Agreed with all of this. I don't think there need be a season 2, tho.

He’s actually had a sequel script written for School Daze for the past 10 years and he may turn it into a stage play.

I’d love for him to do an Anthology series of ten episodes for some of his early films. You could easily get ten episodes out of School Daze, Do The Right Thing, Mo Betta Blues, and Jungle Fever

This could be dope.

It could also be cringeworthy. I think She's Gotta Have It is aided by the fact that the original wasn't as popular as those flicks. People will be a lot less forgiving of changes to the other flicks. School Daze is the most logical one, and probably the one he could update with a series the best. Do The Right Thing would be the most challenging. Like someone else mentioned, one of the biggest flaws with this series was the writing for the younger characters. He'd need help from a talented young writer to pull off updated Radio Raheems, Buggin Outs and Mookies without them being completely fukked up
 

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Agreed with all of this. I don't think there need be a season 2, tho.



This could be dope.

It could also be cringeworthy. I think She's Gotta Have It is aided by the fact that the original wasn't as popular as those flicks. People will be a lot less forgiving of changes to the other flicks. School Daze is the most logical one, and probably the one he could update with a series the best. Do The Right Thing would be the most challenging. Like someone else mentioned, one of the biggest flaws with this series was the writing for the younger characters. He'd need help from a talented young writer to pull off updated Radio Raheems, Buggin Outs and Mookies without them being completely fukked up

To be honest id simply prefer spike create a fresh new show that could be set in the universe of his films and just have cameos from the characters of films or something.

Some of the stuff in his films are so timely that to “modernize” them would render them useless.
 
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