Spike Lee Goes in: "Django is disrespectful to my ancestors".....

[daze23]

and here I was thinking you 2 were the same person in the Reverse Racism thread

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You're selectively sensitive. You're just using the insults as a copout because you argument in this debate is bullshyt. Like I said, I insulted you in the post that you quoted to re-engage me.

The problem here is that you're disingenuous. You clearly have an agenda here but you wont own up to it. You accuse of others of whining about the movie when it's you thats being overprotective of it. People can't even give a critique of the movie without you being defensive. You still can't even admit that the movie is exploitative when that's an undeniable fact. You can deny championing the movie as some kind of black empowerment movie, but it's clear that you are. "Black people won/Black people triumphed in the movie and y'all scoff at it". How in the world did black people win in Django? Django isn't a win for black people. Django is a win for Hollywood, QT, the white people who worked with him to make the movie, Dicaprio, and the other white actor that played "King".

When I say black people won in the movie I'm talking about the characters in the movie, not real life. That's where your problem lies you're trying to have it both ways. On one hand if I compare it to other movies you say "we're not talking about other movies were talking about django" but all of your criticisms of django come from outside the movie.

You say I'm being disingenuous, but it's you who's being disingenuous, you'll say anything to support your naritive of the moving being exploitative. Here you say Django is a win for QT and all the white people in the movie, but you conveniently leave out the fact that there was black actors in the movie as well. If the success of the movie is a win for dicaprio then that same success is a win for Jamie Fox.

You claim this movie is exploitative, just because its a movie about slaves and QT is making money off it. Well roots is the same thing a fictional story about slaves that somebody made money off of. What's the difference?

Did you watch the dikk Gregory interview on the subject? Well that's my stance to a T. Black folks will allow real racism to go on, without a word,even support it, but then you wanna pick and try to find some racism over some trivial shyt like the word nikka or slavery in a movie. The real racism in Hollywood is the fact that black actors aren't even written into rolls for big budget blockbuster movies. Black people have no problem with that. We will go see a Ben Afleck movie or Ironman in a heart beat and you'll hear no complaints, from spike lee or any of you nikkas, but a movie is written for black actors, it finds success at the box office and all we got is nikkas talking about "oh they say nikka too much" "it's disrespecting my ancestors" "it's exploitative" "look how the white man had to train the savage". But I bet next month it will be a bunch of nikkas lined up to go see Die Hard and root that white man on. You militant nikkas are lost, y'all hustlin backwards, don't mind if white folks treat you like a nikka, but soon as they say the word then we got a problem.

For the sake of discussion lets compare django to a teacher/student movie that black people love and applaud as one of the best ever. Training Day, here we have a black man playing the teacher roll and he's basically a savage. Lying stealing, cheating, taking advantage of women, neglecting his kids, taking drugs. And he's trying to teach his partner how to do it the whole way. The movie ends with the white guy overcoming his savage teacher and saving the day. I don't remeber any black people talking about "that movie exploits the problems in the inner city" or "why did the white man have to save the day" or "the black man was depicted as a savage"

Black people got their priorities all fukked up. We will applaud and support a movie that depicts us as cold hearted savages, and white people as saviors. But a movie comes along that depicts us as intelligent, resilient, and strong, while depicting white folks as ignorant savages, and that's the movie we are outraged about. This is the movie that disrespects our ancestors? Out of the countless depictions of ignorance and savagery that we do support, the one time none of that is prevelant in a story about black folks now we're up in arms?

The shyt that black people go for is almost comical, but at the same time it's too sad to laugh

White man got a hold on you nikkas feelings for sure. You can sit and watch a black man blow up a house full of white folks and rescue his wife, and your reaction is "white man won, he showed him how to make that bomb"

 

[Gravity]

When I say black people won in the movie I'm talking about the characters in the movie, not real life. That's where your problem lies you're trying to have it both ways. On one hand if I compare it to other movies you say "we're not talking about other movies were talking about django" but all of your criticisms of django come from outside the movie.

The only black person who "won" in Django was Django himself. I guess you could include Washington's character since he rescued her. All the other blacks in the movie were slaves, how did they "win"? My point was that the movie wasn't a win for blacks on-screen or off. The movie bills Jaimie/Django as the lead character but in reality the 2 lead characters are King and Candie. Django is actually a supporting character, along with Steven and Broomhilda to lesser extents. That's why Dicaprio and Waltz were the only 2 actors to get Golden Globe and Oscar nominations. Everybody up for awards associated with the film are white with the exception Hudlin who's a producer.

What do you mean I'm trying to have it both ways? The only thing that I've said about the movie in this particular discussion is that it exploits slavery. I haven't made any actual criticisms of the movie here because we can't even get straight on the facts.

You say I'm being disingenuous, but it's you who's being disingenuous, you'll say anything to support your naritive of the moving being exploitative. Here you say Django is a win for QT and all the white people in the movie, but you conveniently leave out the fact that there was black actors in the movie as well. If the success of the movie is a win for dicaprio then that same success is a win for Jamie Fox.

Black actors working in Hollywood is a "win", so let's not be silly. Obviously I'm speaking relatively. QT, Waltz, Dicaprio, and a bunch of white people who worked on the film behind the scenes are all being celebrated for their work on the film with Golden Globe/Oscar nominations, the black actors aren't. That's what I mean when I say that the movie is a "win" for whites not blacks. It goes back to the point that I made above, Django is more about waltz and Candie than it was about Django. What's probably the most common criticism of the movie amongst people who liked it? That it was too long. The movie ended for a lot of people when King killed Candie. You think that I'm hating on QT when I'm actually tipping my hat to him. Game recognizes game.

Saying that the movie exploits slavery is not a narrative, it's an undeniable fact. It's a fictional tale about a bounty hunter who buys/frees a slave, eventually mentoring/helping the ex-slave rescue his enslaved wife from a villainous slave owner. It's an action/western/blaxploitation flick that uses slavery as the backdrop. There's no way getting around the fact that Django exploits slavery. This is the definition of exploitation. This isn't up for debate man. If you can't admit that the movie exploits slavery then you're lying to yourself.

You claim this movie is exploitative, just because its a movie about slaves and QT is making money off it. Well roots is the same thing a fictional story about slaves that somebody made money off of. What's the difference?

1st of all, I never claimed that Roots didn't exploit slavery. 2nd, Roots has nothing to do with this discussion. This is about Django and whether or not that movie is exploiting slavery. You're like Neo in the Matrix trying to dodge that fact. You'll say anything to cloud the issue and defend the movie from that particular truth.

BTW, here's some differences between Roots and Django. Roots was not a Hollywood movie and Django was. Roots is actual educational. The only times that I've even seen Roots is in school. You don't really watch Roots to be entertained. Django is purely for entertainment purposes only, it's not educational in the least. A teacher would never be able to show that movie to his/her students with the intent on teaching anything. So while Roots may exploit slavery to a certain extent, it's nowhere near the extent that Django exploits slavery.

Did you watch the dikk Gregory interview on the subject? Well that's my stance to a T. Black folks will allow real racism to go on, without a word,even support it, but then you wanna pick and try to find some racism over some trivial shyt like the word nikka or slavery in a movie. The real racism in Hollywood is the fact that black actors aren't even written into rolls for big budget blockbuster movies. Black people have no problem with that. We will go see a Ben Afleck movie or Ironman in a heart beat and you'll hear no complaints, from spike lee or any of you nikkas, but a movie is written for black actors, it finds success at the box office and all we got is nikkas talking about "oh they say nikka too much" "it's disrespecting my ancestors" "it's exploitative" "look how the white man had to train the savage". But I bet next month it will be a bunch of nikkas lined up to go see Die Hard and root that white man on. You militant nikkas are lost, y'all hustlin backwards, don't mind if white folks treat you like a nikka, but soon as they say the word then we got a problem.

I listened to his take, and it's irrelevant to me. He accuses Spike of having an agenda when it's clear that he has an agenda against Spike. I find it funny that you've done all of this crying about me insulting you. Yet here you are talking this shyt. I'm guessing that you're too stupid to even realize that what you're saying here is insulting. I'm not lost "nikka". I see clearly. I simply don't agree with you and Gregory that Django is some bone that black black people should lick QT's boots for throwing at us. You're in here taking bullets for QT, trying to save him when he doesn't need to be saved. You seem to think that I'm hating on QT, when I'm actually tipping my hat at him. Game recognizes game, and QT's game is obviously pretty good because he has pimped the hell out of ignorant folk like you. There are all kinds of examples of racism in Hollywood. There's nothing wrong with discussing if Django is an example and how it's an example. This isn't a movie written for black actors, it's a movie written for white actors. That's why only the white actors are being celebrated with Golden Globe and Oscar nominations/awards. Nothing I'm saying here is militant. You simply have a house-****** mentality. They billed Dicaprio and Waltz as supporting actors but obviously they were the 2 leading actors in the film. Billing Jaimie Foxx as the lead instead of those 2 was just game.

That "you nikkas ignore real racism and complain about trivial shyt" is straight up house-****** rhetoric. Blacks like you always pop up to deflect and defend white people from being called out. You even talk like a cracker, as if black people all share one brain or follow one train of thought. If you see examples of racism being ignored or supported then point it out. Not everybody is going to agree on what is or isn't an example of racism. Not everybody is a pet c00n looking for a bone to be thrown at him and a pat on the head. The movie isn't above criticism whether you like it or not.

For the sake of discussion lets compare django to a teacher/student movie that black people love and applaud as one of the best ever. Training Day, here we have a black man playing the teacher roll and he's basically a savage. Lying stealing, cheating, taking advantage of women, neglecting his kids, taking drugs. And he's trying to teach his partner how to do it the whole way. The movie ends with the white guy overcoming his savage teacher and saving the day. I don't remeber any black people talking about "that movie exploits the problems in the inner city" or "why did the white man have to save the day" or "the black man was depicted as a savage"

Black people got their priorities all fukked up. We will applaud and support a movie that depicts us as cold hearted savages, and white people as saviors. But a movie comes along that depicts us as intelligent, resilient, and strong, while depicting white folks as ignorant savages, and that's the movie we are outraged about. This is the movie that disrespects our ancestors? Out of the countless depictions of ignorance and savagery that we do support, the one time none of that is prevelant in a story about black folks now we're up in arms?

The shyt that black people go for is almost comical, but at the same time it's too sad to laugh

This just shows how ignorant you truly are. 1st I have to repeat that not all black people share the same brain. "Black people" isn't one person. We don't all like and dislike the same things. There are plenty of black people that have supported Django and have no problems with it. You're so busy trying to defend QT and Hollywood that you're talking nonsense. Again, you sound like a cracker. Speak for yourself and let others do the same.

Training Day has always been just an ok movie to me, nothing more nothing less. I've always taken Denzel's Oscar award for the role for what it is too, a backhanded compliment. Hollywood backhanded Halle Berry that same year by awarding her for the role that she played in Monster's Ball. At the time, Hollywood was catching heat for not awarding black actors and they were just saving face. Of course Training Day and Monster's Ball perpetuated the status quo and plenty of blaxcks like myself have always been aware of this. There's no way that Denzel should have won for that performance/role instead of his performances in Malcom X and Hurricane. They gave Halle the Oscar because she let the white boy smut her out on screen. Hollywood is always playing these kinds of games and they're still doing it with a movie like Django. You don't have to agree, but stop trying to discredit people who you don't agree with. Especially when you can't take it in return.

You're championing Django for something that it's not. You clearly are hyping this movie up to be some kind of black empowerment movie yet you're too much of a coward to admit it. "the movie depicts us as intelligent, resilient, and strong while depicting white folks as ignorant savages". You deserve a pat on the head boy.

White man got a hold on you nikkas feelings for sure. You can sit and watch a black man blow up a house full of white folks and rescue his wife, and your reaction is "white man won, he showed him how to make that bomb"

You're a simple c00n my man. Some of us are just capable of thinking on higher levels. All you took from the movie was that an ex-slave got to kill some white boys while rescuing his wife, and I saw a lot more than that. Seriously, you really have a house-****** mentality and I hope that you use the insults as an excuse not to respond back. Please don't.

 

[Type Username Here]

Damn, motherfukkers writing dissertations about the film in here.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The only black person who "won" in Django was Django himself. I guess you could include Washington's character since he rescued her. All the other blacks in the movie were slaves, how did they "win"? My point was that the movie wasn't a win for blacks on-screen or off. The movie bills Jaimie/Django as the lead character but in reality the 2 lead characters are King and Candie. Django is actually a supporting character, along with Steven and Broomhilda to lesser extents. That's why Dicaprio and Waltz were the only 2 actors to get Golden Globe and Oscar nominations. Everybody up for awards associated with the film are white with the exception Hudlin who's a producer.

What do you mean I'm trying to have it both ways? The only thing that I've said about the movie in this particular discussion is that it exploits slavery. I haven't made any actual criticisms of the movie here because we can't even get straight on the facts.

Black actors working in Hollywood is a "win", so let's not be silly. Obviously I'm speaking relatively. QT, Waltz, Dicaprio, and a bunch of white people who worked on the film behind the scenes are all being celebrated for their work on the film with Golden Globe/Oscar nominations, the black actors aren't. That's what I mean when I say that the movie is a "win" for whites not blacks. It goes back to the point that I made above, Django is more about waltz and Candie than it was about Django. What's probably the most common criticism of the movie amongst people who liked it? That it was too long. The movie ended for a lot of people when King killed Candie. You think that I'm hating on QT when I'm actually tipping my hat to him. Game recognizes game.

Saying that the movie exploits slavery is not a narrative, it's an undeniable fact. It's a fictional tale about a bounty hunter who buys/frees a slave, eventually mentoring/helping the ex-slave rescue his enslaved wife from a villainous slave owner. It's an action/western/blaxploitation flick that uses slavery as the backdrop. There's no way getting around the fact that Django exploits slavery. This is the definition of exploitation. This isn't up for debate man. If you can't admit that the movie exploits slavery then you're lying to yourself.

1st of all, I never claimed that Roots didn't exploit slavery. 2nd, Roots has nothing to do with this discussion. This is about Django and whether or not that movie is exploiting slavery. You're like Neo in the Matrix trying to dodge that fact. You'll say anything to cloud the issue and defend the movie from that particular truth.

BTW, here's some differences between Roots and Django. Roots was not a Hollywood movie and Django was. Roots is actual educational. The only times that I've even seen Roots is in school. You don't really watch Roots to be entertained. Django is purely for entertainment purposes only, it's not educational in the least. A teacher would never be able to show that movie to his/her students with the intent on teaching anything. So while Roots may exploit slavery to a certain extent, it's nowhere near the extent that Django exploits slavery.

I listened to his take, and it's irrelevant to me. He accuses Spike of having an agenda when it's clear that he has an agenda against Spike. I find it funny that you've done all of this crying about me insulting you. Yet here you are talking this shyt. I'm guessing that you're too stupid to even realize that what you're saying here is insulting. I'm not lost "nikka". I see clearly. I simply don't agree with you and Gregory that Django is some bone that black black people should lick QT's boots for throwing at us. You're in here taking bullets for QT, trying to save him when he doesn't need to be saved. You seem to think that I'm hating on QT, when I'm actually tipping my hat at him. Game recognizes game, and QT's game is obviously pretty good because he has pimped the hell out of ignorant folk like you. There are all kinds of examples of racism in Hollywood. There's nothing wrong with discussing if Django is an example and how it's an example. This isn't a movie written for black actors, it's a movie written for white actors. That's why only the white actors are being celebrated with Golden Globe and Oscar nominations/awards. Nothing I'm saying here is militant. You simply have a house-****** mentality. They billed Dicaprio and Waltz as supporting actors but obviously they were the 2 leading actors in the film. Billing Jaimie Foxx as the lead instead of those 2 was just game.

That "you nikkas ignore real racism and complain about trivial shyt" is straight up house-****** rhetoric. Blacks like you always pop up to deflect and defend white people from being called out. You even talk like a cracker, as if black people all share one brain or follow one train of thought. If you see examples of racism being ignored or supported then point it out. Not everybody is going to agree on what is or isn't an example of racism. Not everybody is a pet c00n looking for a bone to be thrown at him and a pat on the head. The movie isn't above criticism whether you like it or not.


This just shows how ignorant you truly are. 1st I have to repeat that not all black people share the same brain. "Black people" isn't one person. We don't all like and dislike the same things. There are plenty of black people that have supported Django and have no problems with it. You're so busy trying to defend QT and Hollywood that you're talking nonsense. Again, you sound like a cracker. Speak for yourself and let others do the same.

Training Day has always been just an ok movie to me, nothing more nothing less. I've always taken Denzel's Oscar award for the role for what it is too, a backhanded compliment. Hollywood backhanded Halle Berry that same year by awarding her for the role that she played in Monster's Ball. At the time, Hollywood was catching heat for not awarding black actors and they were just saving face. Of course Training Day and Monster's Ball perpetuated the status quo and plenty of blaxcks like myself have always been aware of this. There's no way that Denzel should have won for that performance/role instead of his performances in Malcom X and Hurricane. They gave Halle the Oscar because she let the white boy smut her out on screen. Hollywood is always playing these kinds of games and they're still doing it with a movie like Django. You don't have to agree, but stop trying to discredit people who you don't agree with. Especially when you can't take it in return.

You're championing Django for something that it's not. You clearly are hyping this movie up to be some kind of black empowerment movie yet you're too much of a coward to admit it. "the movie depicts us as intelligent, resilient, and strong while depicting white folks as ignorant savages". You deserve a pat on the head boy.


You're a simple c00n my man. Some of us are just capable of thinking on higher levels. All you took from the movie was that an ex-slave got to kill some white boys while rescuing his wife, and I saw a lot more than that. Seriously, you really have a house-****** mentality and I hope that you use the insults as an excuse not to respond back. Please don't.

I'm the house nikka yet all you can say is "white man won" I'm done man keep walking around scared of white folks your entire life, that'll get you where you want to be

 

[Gravity]

I'm the house nikka yet all you can say is "white man won" I'm done man keep walking around scared of white folks your entire life, that'll get you where you want to be

I said a lot more than "the white man won". I explained myself clearly, you simply have no retort besides building up strawmen and setting up smoke-screens. I have no fear of whites which is why I'm able to speak the truth. Your house-****** fear/love of whites is what causes you to deny/ignore the truth and defend whites tooth & nail. You attack any black person who dares question QT or Django. I hope you are done, go lick some boots boy.

Damn, motherfukkers writing dissertations about the film in here.

Shut up white boy.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I said a lot more than "the white man won". I explained myself clearly, you simply have no retort besides building up strawmen and setting up smoke-screens. I have no fear of whites which is why I'm able to speak the truth. Your house-****** fear/love of whites is what causes you to deny/ignore the truth and defend whites tooth & nhttp://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-the-final-hackail. You attack any black person who dares question QT or Django. I hope you are done, go lick some boots boy.Shut up white boy.

Again you call me the houses nikka, but word for word you sound like uncle ruckus. White folks got your brain broke nikka, got you fighting yourself, and thinking the white man won. You do fear the white man, you look out into the world and all you see is the white man attacking you and winning. You let your emotions and your weak ass feelings about what white folks have done or will do to you shape your outlook on life. A person can watch django and come to a million different conclusions about what it ment. But if your only conclusion is "white man won" or "white peopl tryin to take advantage of me" then that says more about you than the movie. Not once have I defended QT, frankly I don't give a shyt what he does. All I've done is address this misplaced emotional ass outrage you nikkas have for the movie. Doesn't matter what this particular movie does or doesn't represent. It's the mentality of nikkas like you that is holding black folks back from moving forward.

at you nikkas

 

[Gravity]

Again you call me the houses nikka, but word for word you sound like uncle ruckus. White folks got your brain broke nikka, got you fighting yourself, and thinking the white man won. You do fear the white man, you look out into the world and all you see is the white man attacking you and winning. You let your emotions and your weak ass feelings about what white folks have done or will do to you shape your outlook on life. A person can watch django and come to a million different conclusions about what it ment. But if your only conclusion is "white man won" or "white peopl tryin to take advantage of me" then that says more about you than the movie. Not once have I defended QT, frankly I don't give a shyt what he does. All I've done is address this misplaced emotional ass outrage you nikkas have for the movie. Doesn't matter what this particular movie does or doesn't represent. It's the mentality of nikkas like you that is holding black folks back from moving forward.

at you nikkas

You can play the "I know you are but what am I" game all you want. I point out your house-****** mentality and you come back accusing me of the same thing. You're just responding to respond at this point. You certainly aren't saying anything. How does me pointing out how Django exploits slavery make me sound like Uncle Ruckus? When exactly do Uncle Ruckus types call white people out for anything? House-******s dont call white people out for anything, they protect whites and thats exactly what you are doing. How does pointing out that Django is a "win" for whites and not blacks make you think that I fear whites? I've backed up everything I've said about you by using your own words. You're simply twisting my words and building up strawmen. You aren't even responding to what I'm actually saying. You're the one who has implied that Django is a "win" for black people and I'm simply correcting you. Django is not a "win" for black people, the only people who have "won" regarding Django are white people and I've clearly supported that claim with a logical common sense argument. You simply can't retort anything that I've said.

at you, house-******.

 

[Type Username Here]

Shut up white boy.

Man shut your fake Militant ass up.

Coming in here and dropping essays over a film.

"Well, the film upset my feelings because it mocks slavery. So let me write 30 pages of essays online so I don't have to deal with issues plaguing my community today."

Sensitive bytch.

 

[The Message]

This thread and film is just a prime example of a people/community trying to work and coexist in an industry not ran by them. This is a result of us black folk being powerless. It just happens to be Hollywood in this instance. A powerless ppl are always going to be reactionary. We all know how Hollywood portrays us - we have DECADES of examples. This movie is not for us.

At this stage in the game, it puzzles me how "black Hollywood" hasnt bossed up and created their own vertically integrated film industry....black owned theaters, distribution companies, production companies, running our own studios, cgi developers, etc. Not just in film, but in business period, we're too happy running to white folk to get doe and be accepted in their world (which obviously does not have our best interest) that we go ahead and deal with the same ol bs they throw at us. If we were at the helm of our own industry, Django dolls or any other bs wouldnt matter, because why would we be concerned with what others think or do when we not only control our own, but profit from it. It would be a waste of time to be concerned with that. But nobody wants to put in the work. Though I criticize Tyler Perry, I give props to him for having ownership of his studio. It's a pipe dream but the next step is owning the distribution which would end up cutting "others" out of our mix. But until this happens, expect more of the same to happen - stereotypical images, us crying about it, them throwing us a bone to quiet us down, then we wait for the cycle to repeat. We only care what Hollywood thinks of us because we depend on them.

 

[Gravity]

Man shut your fake Militant ass up.

Coming in here and dropping essays over a film.

"Well, the film upset my feelings because it mocks slavery. So let me write 30 pages of essays online so I don't have to deal with issues plaguing my community today."

Sensitive bytch.

fukk you. I didn't ask your wet-dog smelling ass to read any of my posts. This is a discussion and I'm expressing my thoughts and views. If my posts contain too many words for your pea-brain to comprehend then ignore them. That's not the case though is it white boy? You just don't like what I'm saying and don't have he intellect or courage to challenge me. Hence that racist comment in quotation marks. You're the type who used black on black violence to try and discredit and silence folk who were speaking their mind regarding the Trayvon Martin case. Since you had the nerve to bring it up, let's talk about it white boy. Explain the issues plaguing my community and what I should do to address them.

 

[Type Username Here]

fukk you. I didn't ask your wet-dog smelling ass to read any of my posts. This is a discussion and I'm expressing my thoughts and views. If my posts contain too many words for your pea-brain to comprehend then ignore them. That's not the case though is it white boy? You just don't like what I'm saying and don't have he intellect or courage to challenge me. Hence that racist comment in quotation marks. You're the type who used black on black violence to try and discredit and silence folk who were speaking their mind regarding the Trayvon Martin case. Since you had the nerve to bring it up, let's talk about it white boy. Explain the issues plaguing my community and what I should do to address them.

My original comment wasn't even to you in particular, it was about the whole thread, including myself who posted in here earlier.

Too many words? Nah, it's just a wall of meaningless text. If there was some coherent or intelligent point, it might be worthwhile to go through 30 pages of you calling other blacks "house ******s" because you see yourself as some sort of Nat Turner type because you are bytching about a movie hurting your feelings.

Don't spend your time address issues like the drug war, prison industrial complex and/or the death of the labor movement in this country, issues that actually have much more serious implications to your community.

You said your piece initially, but you spend the last 2 weeks and countless pages calling people "crackers", "house ******s" and the like.

Congratulations.

Soft, sensitive c*nt.

 

[Gravity]

My original comment wasn't even to you in particular, it was about the whole thread, including myself who posted in here earlier.

Too many words? Nah, it's just a wall of meaningless text. If there was some coherent or intelligent point, it might be worthwhile to go through 30 pages of you calling other blacks "house ******s" because you see yourself as some sort of Nat Turner type because you are bytching about a movie hurting your feelings.

Don't spend your time address issues like the drug war, prison industrial complex and/or the death of the labor movement in this country, issues that actually have much more serious implications to your community.

You said your piece initially, but you spend the last 2 weeks and countless pages calling people "crackers", "house ******s" and the like.

Congratulations.

Soft, sensitive c*nt.

You aren't saying anything. You don't like what I'm saying but you don't have the intellect to challenge me. You're a stupid white boy. Tell me this, what are you doing to address the issues that you just listed? You 3 times as many posts on this site as I do. You're in no position to chastise me on how im spending my time. Explain how you have adressed the prison industrial complex/war on drugs as a white boy? I'd bet my house that you havent done a thing to end white supremacy/institutional racism but you have the gall to try and chastise me? At best you're responsible for the issues that you listed by default, youre just too stupid to know it. The nerve of you, you white people are something else.

 

[Type Username Here]

You aren't saying anything. You don't like what I'm saying but you don't have the intellect to challenge me.

Intellect to challenge you? This conversation is about a film. Nothing about it is intellectual. I'd much rather spend my time here addressing issues which matter. I'd rather spend my time here discussing mathematics, philosophy, and science. This matters to you for whatever odd reason. I never said your opinion wasn't valid. You made your opinion known. That wasn't enough though, you had to come in here and constantly chastise others.

You're a stupid white boy.

You keep calling me white boy like that would upset me or something. Do you feel empowered by calling me racial slurs on the internet? Does it provide you a way to vent anonymously at white people before you go back to the real world?

Tell me this, what are you doing to address the issues that you just listed? You have damn near four times as many posts on this site as I do. You're in no position to chastise me on how im spending my time. Explain how you have adressed the prison industrial complex/war on drugs as a white boy? I'd bet my house that you havent done a thing to end white supremacy/institutional racism but you have the gall to try and chastise me? At best you're responsible for the issues that you listed by default, youre just too stupid to know it. The nerve of you, you white people are something else.

You think I'm somehow unable to address or have issues with those things because I am white? You think I am somehow responsible for those things because I am white?

You're just a fake fukking militant racist. Nothing more. All your posts on this forum involve race issues, so you can come in here and call people crackers and house ******s. A one trick pony who think's he's justifying being black by being a bigot.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You can play the "I know you are but what am I" game all you want. I point out your house-****** mentality and you come back accusing me of the same thing. You're just responding to respond at this point. You certainly aren't saying anything. How does me pointing out how Django exploits slavery make me sound like Uncle Ruckus? When exactly do Uncle Ruckus types call white people out for anything? House-******s dont call white people out for anything, they protect whites and thats exactly what you are doing. How does pointing out that Django is a "win" for whites and not blacks make you think that I fear whites? I've backed up everything I've said about you by using your own words. You're simply twisting my words and building up strawmen. You aren't even responding to what I'm actually saying. You're the one who has implied that Django is a "win" for black people and I'm simply correcting you. Django is not a "win" for black people, the only people who have "won" regarding Django are white people and I've clearly supported that claim with a logical common sense argument. You simply can't retort anything that I've said.

at you, house-******.

I've already thoroughly explained why your reaction is illogical and emotional. Its reflective of your fear of white folks and your "white man won" complex. like i said there are a million ways you can interperate the movie. Your fear of the white man and what he might do to you shapes your view of the world, and this movie is no different.

White man got you nikkas all fukked up. He has you defeated mentally. You place yourself in a cage and then complain when he patrols it. The worst part is you can't see it, and you'd rather call me a house nikka than to free yourself.