Spike Lee Goes in: "Django is disrespectful to my ancestors".....

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This is really why I don't rock with you throughout the foolishness you've littered in this thread. You seem to be strawmanning niqqas into that manufactured belief you threw in your above statement that at the end of the day makes it pretty much useless to have a legitimate conversation with.

Dude didn't say anything much different than MOST of us who've criticized the film as simplistic and overrated. But you rather dress niqqas up as being scared of white men trying to get em rather having a coherent conversation.

I don't dress nikkas up as anything. The one nikka came in saying QT is showing his superiority over black people by grabbing a black woman's booty. And the other nikka kept saying "White people won you stupid boot licker" these nikkas obviously have a problem beyond django. Go back and read it. I said the same thing about your critique. It was logical not all emotional and sensational.
 

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The filled is film with jokes about slavery, and Blacks. The film begs the audience to laugh at slave ignorance and c00nery. It also wants us to laugh at how ridiculous those pale faces with hoods are...Asking us to find humor in a group that would go on to massacre, rape, oppress Blacks for the next 120 years.

A good 2/3 of the film is spent explaining why slaves are inferior to whites or are best compared to animals; even Django adopts this mentality under the German's request. I'm sure QT went through all the possible plot scenarios and found the mythical "mandingo fights" to suit his story the best but why not include some counter anti-slavery dialogue. I guess not even the slaves back then thought negroes were worth a damn in the head.:yeshrug:

In reality, white racists believed Black men were violent creatures that needed to be controlled. If said negro wasn't controlled or was freed, White families were in danger, particularly white women. No only does Django fulfill our modern angry Black man archetype to a T (understandably), he goes on a killing spree. Once Django obtains his "reward", he continues this killing spree and even takes out an innocent white woman, the pale face on that farm who was nice to his girl. :heh:

QT tried to sell Django as a Black hero:aicmon: The German was more disturbed by slavery than Django. Yeah yeah Django was used to it but that doesnt mean it shouldn't bother him. Django was more concerned with his wife than the slaves he went out his way to shyt on slaves to appease Candy. If QT wanted to make a Black hero, Django would've at least empathize with the other slaves. He would've made Django inadvertently spark a slave revolt, throwing everything Candy said about slaves back in his face. Django would've gained his own freedom and he would've killed Candy. Instead we have a White man freeing Django and destroying the man who is the sole cause of Django's pain. The White man giveth and taketh.:upsetfavre:

And I could go on:smugbiden:

i hear u, but didnt u enjoy the movie? I had the pleasure of watching it AT HOME, so I can't imagine the cac-response real time....but didnt u like seeing Jamie Foxx do 360s on a horse and ride off with an ARMED dime piece? :obama:
 

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EXCLUSIVE: DJANGO DOLLS CANCELLED AND PULL OFFLINE

Looks like Tarantino and the Weinstiens finally got some sense and pulled the Direspectful Django Dolls. The Toy Line said they didn't know it would of been that big of a controversy and they apologize to any African Americans who were offended. LOL @ people defending the Django Dolls, they wouldn't of been cancelled if everything was so OK with them coming out. TMZ Broke the story:

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'Django Unchained' -- Slave Toys DISCONTINUED | TMZ.com
 

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Sources tell us ... the toymakers only released somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,000 dolls before shutting down production

lol, now the dolls will be even more sought after

obviously they pulled them to avoid controversy
 

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Your reaction to anything anybody says is "shutup stupid whiteboy/house nikka" it's ironic because all that does is makes you sound like the stupid house nikka. If there are any valid points in your posts, they get lost in your ignorance.
You do have a house-****** mentality though. I don't feel the need to bite my tongue in saying that. You using the insults to dodge the valid points that I'm making is on you. Every other word out of your mouth is "nikka" and the things that you are saying are highly insulting, so I give a rat's ass about your whining. It's a cop out.

didnt read all of the thread, but people are overreacting to this on both sides. is django going to be the movie that sets free the souls of black folks? no. but is it a typical, exploitation of the black experience? no, definitely not.
How is the movie not exploitative though? I've still yet to see an intelligent explanation for how the movie doesn't exploit slavery.

i think some people brought their preconceived notions about the movie, about slavery, and about race into the analysis of the movie itself, which is natural, because everybody is entitled to their own opinions. but when people start saying stuff like there are no intelligent black characters in the movie, or this movie is no different than any other movie, etc., that's just silly because clearly there are intelligent and capable black people in the movie. the three smartest characters were django, sam l, and king. and clearly this movie is doing something few if any movies have done before. when is the last time you saw a movie about black love in mainstream movies? i aint talking about love and basketball or love jones naga im talking about hollywood blockbusters. and when is the last time you saw a black man dominate a group of white men, making them look silly in every way imaginable, AND WIN IN THE END? when is the last time you saw anything that graphic visually around the horrors associated with slavery? ive never seen a mandingo fight where one slave breaks another slaves arm, rips his eyes out, then kills him with a hammer. ive never seen a slave get ripped to pieces by dogs before in hollywood. ive never seen them pull a naked black slave girl out of a hotbox before in hollywood. so we need to be realistic about exactly what django is and what it isnt.
I really don't mean any personal disrespect because I don't know any of you personally. However, the above is an example of the boot-licking "yea there are some valid criticisms of the movie, but let's just be happy that the white man threw us some bones" mentality that I'm talking. Why give QT props for the raw graphic violent scenes regarding slavery when the movie isn't about educating people? He didn't put those scenes in the movie to educate people, they were there to shock and awe the audience. This is what I mean when I say that the movie exploits slavery. QT always has quite a bit of over the top violence in his movies. This movie just uses slavery as the back drop. "I've never seen 2 black men fighting to the death, a black man ripped apart by dogs on screen, or a naked slave woman pulled from a hot-box on screen". My question is, what good did it do you to see those scenes in a movie that was made purely for entertainment purposes? It's really a shame that people can't be honest or just aren't intelligent enough to see what QT really did with this movie. This movie isn't about black love, black empowerment, or anything like that. Foxx and Washington are barely on screen together. Broomhilda has more dialogue with King than she does with Django. Again, the 2 main characters in the movie are King and Candie. The black characters all play supporting roles. What white men did Django dominate? The nameless rednecks that he killed at the end? I just don't get the ass kissing over being tossed a few bones.

it's unfair to give this movie the task of addressing all our social issues around slavery. and it's unfair to task this movie with creating honest dialogue around race relations between blacks and whites in our society. it's unfair because that's a standard that typically movies are not held to. so why start with django?
Well, typically action revenge movies aren't set during slavery. Typically movies don't exploit slavery to sell themselves. This is why Django is being held to a different standard. You're basically admitting that QT exploited slavery for the sole purpose of lining his pockets. He wasn't aiming to address this country's issues concerning and he wasn't aiming to start some kind of open and honest conversation about race between blacks and whites. He didn't aim to make a black empowerment movie. QT was just making a movie that would make money and decided to use slavery and the controversy that comes with it to sell said movie. He didn't make this movie to do black people a favor, so why are people acting as if he did?
Well damn, at least I'm not alone. He would have probably kept out even more real about the movie had he not been on camera. He refused to say that he even liked the movie. Respect to Wright.
 

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The filled is film with jokes about slavery, and Blacks. The film begs the audience to laugh at slave ignorance and c00nery. It also wants us to laugh at how ridiculous those pale faces with hoods are...Asking us to find humor in a group that would go on to massacre, rape, oppress Blacks for the next 120 years.

A good 2/3 of the film is spent explaining why slaves are inferior to whites or are best compared to animals; even Django adopts this mentality under the German's request. I'm sure QT went through all the possible plot scenarios and found the mythical "mandingo fights" to suit his story the best but why not include some counter anti-slavery dialogue. I guess not even the slaves back then thought negroes were worth a damn in the head.:yeshrug:

In reality, white racists believed Black men were violent creatures that needed to be controlled. If said negro wasn't controlled or was freed, White families were in danger, particularly white women. No only does Django fulfill our modern angry Black man archetype to a T (understandably), he goes on a killing spree. Once Django obtains his "reward", he continues this killing spree and even takes out an innocent white woman, the pale face on that farm who was nice to his girl. :heh:

QT tried to sell Django as a Black hero:aicmon: The German was more disturbed by slavery than Django. Yeah yeah Django was used to it but that doesnt mean it shouldn't bother him. Django was more concerned with his wife than the slaves he went out his way to shyt on slaves to appease Candy. If QT wanted to make a Black hero, Django would've at least empathize with the other slaves. He would've made Django inadvertently spark a slave revolt, throwing everything Candy said about slaves back in his face. Django would've gained his own freedom and he would've killed Candy. Instead we have a White man freeing Django and destroying the man who is the sole cause of Django's pain. The White man giveth and taketh.:upsetfavre:

And I could go on:smugbiden:



:wtf: you complaining about Django killing off slave owning/trading and overseer whiteys cause itsuports of to the violent blackman stereotype...if anything the Djangos's revenge on :stopitslime: If anything Django going Nat Turner on those peckerwoods refutes Candy's/white supremist theory that blacks are weak and submissive slaves by nature..BTW...the poor innocent pale face lady Django blasted was a slave owner too..Just cause she was more political correct treatment of slaves doesn't mean she was a good person..Last time I checked she and her brother own the plantation and she was not only complacent in her peers brutal treatment of slaves but supported and profited off it too.You sure you aint a saltine pretending to be a cyber black militant appalled by this film?:usure:

The one black whom was mocked for his ignorance and c00nery was Stephen the house negro....Though I didn't find his act as humorous(cause it seemsed forced) as most I wasn't offended by his charactor either cause I feel Uncle Toms are traitors to their people whom should be clowned and looked down upon..I don't think the film was trying to downplay the history of savagery of the KKK upon AAs just cause their was a comical momment with the white hate mob/horsemen...Clearly that scene was mocking the Klans ignorance and cowardice...Shultz even alluded to this after blowing up of the booby trappped horse carriage causing all the reamaining Klansmen to flee like chickens with thier head cut off.

You sure you watached the same movie? The movie itself never suggested that blacks were inferior to whites..That position was only held by the bad guys(slave owners such as Candy which is to expected)..Django never adopted that mentality...
Django ultimate goal was saving his wife 1st and foremost but clearly he cared for his other orppressed blacks too is why he spared their lives(the of the less extreme house negros ) when he went back to the plantation to kill all the whitey's left at Candyland...I would've like to see Django lead a slave revolt too but the mere fact he was able to destroy Candyland and the remaining white supremist whom ran it refutes everything Candy believed in...What makes you say the Django fighs were mythical? I need to do more research but I do think that was a very sad but real chapter of the slavery era in Amerikkka...Where do you think AAs learned to take pride in black on black violence from and the notion killing another blackman is a symbol of strenght/manhood? I think QT was right on target with that personally and i'm glad it made the film.


When Django acted indifferently toward the suffering of his fellow blacks in some secness casue he was playing a role to fool Candy and other slave holding/oveerseeing racist whties he had to interact with to find his wife...I think he thought that if he showed compassion/emotion to the brutality of slavery the racist whites would've took that as weakness and his cover would've been blown..I too wanted Django to kill Candy but i'm cool with a Shultz doing the job.:yeshrug:
Besides Django did get to kill the slave holding cacs whom originally owned and beat him/his wife and then sold them to Candy.
 

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:wtf: you complaining about Django killing off slave owning/trading and overseer whiteys cause itsuports of to the violent blackman stereotype...if anything the Djangos's revenge on :stopitslime: If anything Django going Nat Turner on those peckerwoods refutes Candy's/white supremist theory that blacks are weak and submissive slaves by nature..BTW...the poor innocent pale face lady Django blasted was a slave owner too..Just cause she was more political correct treatment of slaves doesn't mean she was a good person..Last time I checked she and her brother own the plantation and she was not only complacent in her peers brutal treatment of slaves but supported and profited off it too.You sure you aint a saltine pretending to be a cyber black militant appalled by this film?:usure:

The one black whom was mocked for his ignorance and c00nery was Stephen the house negro....Though I didn't find his act as humorous(cause it seemsed forced) as most I wasn't offended by his charactor either cause I feel Uncle Toms are traitors to their people whom should be clowned and looked down upon..I don't think the film was trying to downplay the history of savagery of the KKK upon AAs just cause their was a comical momment with the white hate mob/horsemen...Clearly that scene was mocking the Klans ignorance and cowardice...Shultz even alluded to this after blowing up of the booby trappped horse carriage causing all the reamaining Klansmen to flee like chickens with thier head cut off.

You sure you watached the same movie? The movie itself never suggested that blacks were inferior to whites..That position was only held by the bad guys(slave owners such as Candy which is to expected)..Django never adopted that mentality...
Django ultimate goal was saving his wife 1st and foremost but clearly he cared for his other orppressed blacks too is why he spared their lives(the of the less extreme house negros ) when he went back to the plantation to kill all the whitey's left at Candyland...I would've like to see Django lead a slave revolt too but the mere fact he was able to destroy Candyland and the remaining white supremist whom ran it refutes everything Candy believed in...What makes you say the Django fighs were mythical? I need to do more research but I do think that was a very sad but real chapter of the slavery era in Amerikkka...Where do you think AAs learned to take pride in black on black violence from and the notion killing another blackman is a symbol of strenght/manhood? I think QT was right on target with that personally and i'm glad it made the film.


When Django acted indifferently toward the suffering of his fellow blacks in some secness casue he was playing a role to fool Candy and other slave holding/oveerseeing racist whties he had to interact with to find his wife...I think he thought that if he showed compassion/emotion to the brutality of slavery the racist whites would've took that as weakness and his cover would've been blown..I too wanted Django to kill Candy but i'm cool with a Shultz doing the job.:yeshrug:
Besides Django did get to kill the slave holding cacs whom originally owned and beat him/his wife and then sold them to Candy.
That's bs. Only one house negro was highlighted in the film, which was Samuel Jackson's character. Django allowed treated slaves like shyt for most of the movie, his sole purpose being to get his wife, not to help the oppressed.

Stop it.....

And no....Mandingo fighting to the death was a myth because black slaves In The south were to be maintained and prized, not viewed as expendable as slaves in South America and the Carribean.

I would advise you to follow your beliefs and read up a bit more like you promised to.
 

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Jamie Foxx Goes In on Spike calls him "Irresponsible" and "Shady":

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Jamie Foxx Calls Spike Lee 'Shady,' 'Irresponsible' For 'Django Unchained' Criticism


Luke, D!ck Gregory and now Jamie. That's right keep highlighting the Black Folks that disagree with Spike. Notice all 3 with the name calling. Why so emotional? Cause Spike didn't go along with the Slave Revenge Fantasy. SMH. So Jamie, Spike is irresponsible for saying "Slavery" wasn't a shoot em up Slavery Comedy Revenge Flick that it was a Holocaust. OK. LOL @ Jamie proclaiming Spike career is over, SMH. Jamie shouldn't be talking about anyone's career.
 

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Jamie Foxx Goes In on Spike calls him "Irresponsible" and "Shady":

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Jamie Foxx Calls Spike Lee 'Shady,' 'Irresponsible' For 'Django Unchained' Criticism


Luke, D!ck Gregory and now Jamie. That's right keep highlighting the Black Folks that disagree with Spike. Notice all 3 with the name calling. Why so emotional? Cause Spike didn't go along with the Slave Revenge Fantasy. SMH. So Jamie, Spike is irresponsible for saying "Slavery" wasn't a shoot em up Slavery Comedy Revenge Flick that it was a Holocaust. OK. LOL @ Jamie proclaiming Spike career is over, SMH. Jamie shouldn't be talking about anyone's career.
If Spike had said the shyt half of us are saying about Django, I'd get why so many Blacks would feel the need to shyt on him. But Spike has barely said anything at all. shyt is sad.
 
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