Spike Lee Goes in: "Django is disrespectful to my ancestors".....

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I'm sorry, but unlike many of us in here, this country has had an honest and open enough conversation about slavery for me to be comfortable enough to jump the shark and get to the point where I can completely accept a slave revenge spaghetti western set in the antebellum south.

shyt...we're living in a country where textbooks are being printed saying slaves weren't being treated that bad. shyt....the DC Rotunda which chronicles the history of this country completely neglects it taking place.

Movies like this help shape the narrative thats missing. I don't like the order of it all.

I'm not offended by the film, and you're right that if anything it'll highlight shyt many white (AND black) people don't know about slavery. There was some cac in the theater who was like "hot box...that's not real is it...?" This movie educated a lot of stupid people about what slavery was - an ugly, disgusting time period that cannot be justified. And I don't call them stupid in a demeaning way, to be fair they have been failed by schools that refuse to discuss slavery.

It's a shame it took a movie to expose the ugly side of racism, but if this leads to people researching the topic and learning more than that's a great thing. Everyone should see it, it's damn good
 

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I'm sorry, but unlike many of us in here, this country has had an honest and open enough conversation about slavery for me to be comfortable enough to jump the shark and get to the point where I can completely accept a slave revenge spaghetti western set in the antebellum south.

shyt...we're living in a country where textbooks are being printed saying slaves weren't being treated that bad. shyt....the DC Rotunda which chronicles the history of this country completely neglects it taking place.

Movies like this help shape the narrative thats missing. I don't like the order of it all.

that doesn't seem fair. how can entertainment push any limits if it's restricted by the things "this country has had an honest and open enough conversation about"
 

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A lot of whites and blacks don't know the full history of Slavery cause that history has been edited and whitewashed to not make it as bad as it was. QT is right, Slavery was even more Harsh then some of the things in Django but if you don't do your own research you won't know that.

Like the fact many felt it would unrealistic for Django to go to the Plantation on his own without Dr. King. If you do the history there were plenty of slave revolts on plantations. The fact is America is so ashamed of Slavery they've done everything in history to not make it as bad as it was.
 

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A lot of whites and blacks don't know the full history of Slavery cause that history has been edited and whitewashed to not make it as bad as it was. QT is right, Slavery was even more Harsh then some of the things in Django but if you don't do your own research you won't know that.

Like the fact many felt it would unrealistic for Django to go to the Plantation on his own without Dr. King. If you do the history there were plenty of slave revolts on plantations. The fact is America is so ashamed of Slavery they've done everything in history to not make it as bad as it was.


Pretty much. You had slaves who revolted for as long as 20 years, systematically poisoning their owners and their families.

Worst of all...I just learned about this less than ten years ago.

It's just too soon to jump the shark IMO.
 

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Pretty much. You had slaves who revolted for as long as 20 years, systematically poisoning their owners and their families.

Worst of all...I just learned about this less than ten years ago.

It's just too soon to jump the shark IMO.

Blacks think Rosewood was bad but they wrote Black Wall St out of the history books. A Black Town in the early 1900's with their own economy getting bombed by White Racist. I bet a movie about Black Wall St with a love story would piss white people off, lol. Blacks are still learning about the Tuskegee Airman cause a lot of their story were also written out of history books. Our History has been whitewashed from not just Slavery but plenty of other things. But this is what happens when we don't tell our history and someone else does. The problem is bigger than Django to me. We just haven't been able to tell our stories properly in Hollywood. Look at the hell Spike went through to get Malcolm X out.
 

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Those look like collector items, not surprising. You don't see that at Toys R Us. Yall nikkas need to chill, this film is a straight up black revenge flick.

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They're not handing these shyts out with Happy Meals.
 

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Finally saw Django last night..After all the hype I was expecting a ******fest and horrifying slavery scenes....I was let down. I went in expecting to be offended but it was a decent movie I guess..Django didn't kill enough slave masters for me but hey this is the closest we are going to get to a slavery revenge fantasy..okay...The Story of Catcher Freeman was better....:troll: And for all these they are disrespecting my ancestors bullshyt ass nikkas...STFU. There wasn't any disrespect in the movie. In fact they went light on the slavery aspect. Hoe ass emotional nikkas actin like QT was spittin on ancestor's graves and shyt. Lets see what you nikkas have to say when Tyler Perry comes out with his slavery movie...Yeah Tyler Perry's Slavery Movie, where the dark skinned brothers are naked and getting spanked while praising white jesus. Lets see what they have to say then. :youngsabo:
 

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I was more offending as a black man viewing those gay ass madea films than this to be completely honest
 

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what if django were made by a black director?

what would the criticisms be?
 

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what if django were made by a black director?

what would the criticisms be?

That's the point, A Black Director could never get a Revenge Slave Fantasy Greenlit. We went over this in the thread. There never has been a Black Director do a film on the Big Screen about Slavery until recently. As for the "b*stards" dolls, I never said there were no collector's items, that was Spike. I said making Django Dolls water down slavery and it does. There were no victim holocaust dolls. Kerry Washington Character was abused, tortured and whipped yet you making a doll out of that. Sorry, he's not getting a pass. This was one time he should of been smart enough to know making Django Dolls wasn't a good move. As the director of the film he could of easily said "Do no make those dolls" but he didn't. For the record, I agree with Spike 100% about Tyler, his movies have done more harm to the Black race on film than good. I'm happy the brotha is making dough and doing his thing but I don't agree with his films.
 

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That's the point, A Black Director could never get a Revenge Slave Fantasy Greenlit. We went over this in the thread. There never has been a Black Director do a film on the Big Screen about Slavery until recently. As for the "b*stards" dolls, I never said there were no collector's items, that was Spike. I said making Django Dolls water down slavery and it does. There were no victim holocaust dolls. Kerry Washington Character was abused, tortured and whipped yet you making a doll out of that. Sorry, he's not getting a pass. This was one time he should of been smart enough to know making Django Dolls wasn't a good move. As the director of the film he could of easily said "Do no make those dolls" but he didn't. For the record, I agree with Spike 100% about Tyler, his movies have done more harm to the Black race on film than good. I'm happy the brotha is making dough and doing his thing but I don't agree with his films.

Man...yall keep on fukkin around.....Tyler Perry is going to make that Slavery movie. And we will all suffer for it....:snoop:
 

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That's the point, A Black Director could never get a Revenge Slave Fantasy Greenlit. We went over this in the thread. There never has been a Black Director do a film on the Big Screen about Slavery until recently.


im just trying to get at whether folks have a problem with 1) the movie itself 2) the fact a white dude made it 3) both
 
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